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Post 'em if you got 'em, I'll start:


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    BloodManBloodMan Posts: 1,839 ✭✭✭✭✭
    ANACS called this one Ultra Deep


    1883-CC $1 ANACS MS63 UDMPL
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    coinguy1coinguy1 Posts: 13,484 ✭✭✭


    << <i>ANACS called this one Ultra Deep >>

    If the images are even close to accurate, I think they got it wrong.image
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    AUandAGAUandAG Posts: 25,038 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Wow, that first one, the 1881 is a stunner!!

    The ICG looks like the frost was added. Note the under the chin frost that
    would not normally be there, would it?

    bob
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    CoinCrazyPACoinCrazyPA Posts: 2,899 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Wow, that first one, the 1881 is a stunner!!

    The ICG looks like the frost was added. Note the under the chin frost that
    would not normally be there, would it?

    bob >>



    I've seen PCGS graded with more frost than that on both sides.
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    llafoellafoe Posts: 7,220 ✭✭
    Even the fingerprints are frosted on the 1881 PCGS 64... image
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    I like this one and think it may have just squeaked by with the 4.
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    woops, its not the cameo requested...
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    rheddenrhedden Posts: 6,650 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I have a feeling this thread is going to uncover more than one "California Special" with artificial frosting. Cameo DMPLs were the coin doctor's bread & butter in the late 1980s. Buy a roll of slightly PL 1881-s dollars; apply fake frost; mark up 3000%. An unscrupulous profiteer's formula for a quick score.

    I bought two of these fakes in the 1990s and was fooled until I realized that the small specks of "frosting" in the middle of the fields were not natural. When I rinsed the spots off easily with rubbing alcohol, I knew I had been duped. The baggy cheeks had huge hits and scratches that had been filled in with some kind of frosty "putty" that fooled me and the upstanding dealer who sold them to me. He bought them back and promptly sold them to another dealer at melt. That's when I knew he was one of the good guys.

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    etexmikeetexmike Posts: 6,852 ✭✭✭
    I do love a dimple Morgan. image

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    Mike
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    blu62vetteblu62vette Posts: 11,968 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    reverse is not cameo, obv is.

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    That first 1881 you posted is a killer, H.
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    MarkInDavisMarkInDavis Posts: 1,747 ✭✭✭✭
    This one is actually only PL because of the reverse but this obverse is DMPL. Yes it is an S.
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    rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Some really nice Morgans here.... Cheers, RickO
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    CoinCrazyPACoinCrazyPA Posts: 2,899 ✭✭✭✭
    Do they have to have heavy frosting to be DMPL? I saw a nice coin at my local B&M and the fields were liquid mirrors but the obverse frosting was not all that intense. Some frosting but not major.
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    GoldbullyGoldbully Posts: 18,508 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    blu62vetteblu62vette Posts: 11,968 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Do they have to have heavy frosting to be DMPL? I saw a nice coin at my local B&M and the fields were liquid mirrors but the obverse frosting was not all that intense. Some frosting but not major. >>



    Frosting not required. Without the frost they tend to be referred to as brilliant DMPL's as opposed to cameo DMPL. Post 1900 you tend to only see brilliant DMPL's along with a few other post 1890 mintages.
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    PrethenPrethen Posts: 3,466 ✭✭✭
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    Oh my the frosting is on the fields of the coin! I think PCGS needs to do a buy back!
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    BAJJERFANBAJJERFAN Posts: 31,645 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Half a dimple....


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    SmittysSmittys Posts: 9,877 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Wow, that first one, the 1881 is a stunner!!

    The ICG looks like the frost was added. Note the under the chin frost that
    would not normally be there, would it?

    bob >>

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    I think this one could easily find it's way into a 64 holder image


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    blu62vetteblu62vette Posts: 11,968 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Wow, that first one, the 1881 is a stunner!!

    The ICG looks like the frost was added. Note the under the chin frost that
    would not normally be there, would it?

    bob >>

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    That is a pretty common halo effect on the mid 80's CC morgans.
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    dragondragon Posts: 4,548 ✭✭
    <<< The ICG looks like the frost was added. Note the under the chin frost that
    would not normally be there, would it? >>>



    That is what's known as the 'halo' effect and was caused by die preparation at the mint. It is most typically seen on some of the common date CC dollars on either the obv. or rev. or both, and is considered a desirable attribute by most prooflike Morgan collectors.
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    coinguy1coinguy1 Posts: 13,484 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

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    << <i>Wow, that first one, the 1881 is a stunner!!

    The ICG looks like the frost was added. Note the under the chin frost that
    would not normally be there, would it?

    bob >>

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    That is a pretty common halo effect on the mid 80's CC morgans. >>

    I agree with Todd (about it not being added frost), meaning I disagree with the other two guysimage
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    crazyhounddogcrazyhounddog Posts: 14,230 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    JRoccoJRocco Posts: 14,277 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Sorry for the old poor pics, but you get the idea
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    Some coins are just plain "Interesting"
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    anablepanablep Posts: 5,205 ✭✭✭✭✭
    All the colors make it hard to image the mirrors & cameo effect on this one...

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    ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,489 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>All the colors make it hard to image the mirrors & cameo effect on this one... >>

    Wow. Nice toner DMPL!

    I also like those old ANACS mini-holders!
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    etexmikeetexmike Posts: 6,852 ✭✭✭
    I would like to add another if I may. image

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    Mike
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    littlebearlittlebear Posts: 1,593 ✭✭✭✭✭
    For those that might be interested, there is a good discussion of the halo effect on CC's in Wayne Miller's "Morgan and Peace Dollar Textbook."

    Larry L.


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    CoinCrazyPACoinCrazyPA Posts: 2,899 ✭✭✭✭


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    << <i>Do they have to have heavy frosting to be DMPL? I saw a nice coin at my local B&M and the fields were liquid mirrors but the obverse frosting was not all that intense. Some frosting but not major. >>



    Frosting not required. Without the frost they tend to be referred to as brilliant DMPL's as opposed to cameo DMPL. Post 1900 you tend to only see brilliant DMPL's along with a few other post 1890 mintages. >>



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    crazyhounddogcrazyhounddog Posts: 14,230 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Better pics.....
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    I know, it's more fun to photograph them in a way that makes the planchet look black. My photography method is a bit crude--a flatbed scanner.
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    coastaljerseyguycoastaljerseyguy Posts: 2,103 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Its raw, but I had it 46 years and it came from a bag of 1000. A coin dealer purchased over 200 bags and I helped my dad arrange the delivery and count a few bags to verify contents. The rest were weighed. It was my present for helping, I was 7 years old.

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    airplanenutairplanenut Posts: 22,734 ✭✭✭✭✭
    15" mirrors on this one

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    dragondragon Posts: 4,548 ✭✭


    << <i>Its raw, but I had it 46 years and it came from a bag of 1000. A coin dealer purchased over 200 bags and I helped my dad arrange the delivery and count a few bags to verify contents. The rest were weighed. It was my present for helping, I was 7 years old.

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    Great story and an awesome 82-S!

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