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Registry weenies - how many of you are in the top 5 but will likely NEVER be #1 in your series?
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....and, does that impact your collecting in that series?
Example:
I used to be #2 in a modern series. Very few coins were above what I had. I would NEVER have become #1 though, unless the #1 spot sold some coins, which was very very unlikely.
The main coin separating me from #3 was ~$500 coin (most in the series were $100 or less...some a bit more, but this one coin was $500). I decided to sell it back to the person I bought it from and put the $500 into my son's college fund a few years back. I am now tied for #3 in the series as the coin was sold to one of the previous #3 folks and they are #2 now.
I don't mind. Good for them and I still had fun.
However, since I will never be #1 there, I just let it all stay where it was/is (tied at #3) and haven't looked back or done anything on it.
Kind of the same thing for a current one I am working on. It's a classic set and I doubt that I will get #1. I'm #2 right now, but catchable. Trying to get very nice examples of the coins for the set but am starting to hit financial stoppers/roadblocks. Coins that are $1500-$3000+ each. Not a stopper for some, but I have other things to spend that much on, particularly when it is going to be 10+ coins more. So, I am quite aways out from #1 and have to make a decision.....do I even care? I'll still collect the series but futility to move forward has slowed things.
What about others? Have you hit a point where you just won't advance and because you did a registry set, it looks futile (not everything is a registry set for me and I find myself being slightly different in how I collect those and haven't been slowed/altered)?
Example:
I used to be #2 in a modern series. Very few coins were above what I had. I would NEVER have become #1 though, unless the #1 spot sold some coins, which was very very unlikely.
The main coin separating me from #3 was ~$500 coin (most in the series were $100 or less...some a bit more, but this one coin was $500). I decided to sell it back to the person I bought it from and put the $500 into my son's college fund a few years back. I am now tied for #3 in the series as the coin was sold to one of the previous #3 folks and they are #2 now.
I don't mind. Good for them and I still had fun.
However, since I will never be #1 there, I just let it all stay where it was/is (tied at #3) and haven't looked back or done anything on it.
Kind of the same thing for a current one I am working on. It's a classic set and I doubt that I will get #1. I'm #2 right now, but catchable. Trying to get very nice examples of the coins for the set but am starting to hit financial stoppers/roadblocks. Coins that are $1500-$3000+ each. Not a stopper for some, but I have other things to spend that much on, particularly when it is going to be 10+ coins more. So, I am quite aways out from #1 and have to make a decision.....do I even care? I'll still collect the series but futility to move forward has slowed things.
What about others? Have you hit a point where you just won't advance and because you did a registry set, it looks futile (not everything is a registry set for me and I find myself being slightly different in how I collect those and haven't been slowed/altered)?
I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment
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Hoard the keys.
If you can't swim don't jump in the deep end of the pool.
<< <i>Are you serious? The PCGS Registry is by definition the world standard of coin collections, and to be #1 in any category (something I am actively working on but may never attain) requires time, patience, not to mention the ability and willingness to spend some serious money. I've shelled out $200,000 to build my proof penny collection and I am at #3. I am not upset in the least if I never achieve the #1 position. I am happy with my collection and will add and improve upon it as time and money allows.
If you can't swim don't jump in the deep end of the pool. >>
Well that's both insulting and comical.
U.S. Type Set
Tom
numero uno
http://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/alltimeset.aspx?s=63143
I'm #2 on the Norse medals set. Need the gold to complete but still wouldn't be #1 even if I could afford it.
I'm #4 on the CBQ basic set but I'm a low grade collector because I don't have the money for some of the AU pieces, so I don't expect to move up much there.
I'm #5 on the complete commemoratives set but I don't have many of the moderns in slabs so that's just a fluke.
So no, I don't let it affect how or what I collect. The registry is more of a showcase for me and a measure of completion. It also lets me see someone else's fine coins.
JH
Proof Buffalo Registry Set
Capped Bust Quarters Registry Set
Proof Walking Liberty Halves Registry Set
The LuLu short set of Walkers possesses the only 42-S in 67 and the now famous (or infamous) $109K 44P.
These sets do not affect my collection in the least. In fact, neither of the aforementioned collections include pix. The Gerald Forsythe collection is 'blacked out' so you don't even see the coin grades [I've always wondered what was the point in that]. Kudos to the Cajun collections for posting nice photos.
I'm proud of my collection and I include pix of most coins - evnentually I'll get photos of all of my coins.
I don't expect #1 will be attained, but I'm #4 for the short set, and if I can EVER find an acceptable 35D, I'll be #2 in the late date set. Oodles of work to do on the early dates - that will keep me occupied for decades.
We are all taught that #1 is the be-all and end-all. However, I've found that there are half dollars that are superior in eye appeal to the one or two that exist in a higher grade. My 35P is an example. So, even if that highest-grade coin were to appear (and I had the scratch) I would pass. Set registry is fun, but if I'm happy with my piece, I not going to be a slave to numbers.
Finally, I'd like to acknowledge and welcome RLevoi to the Walking Liberty group. That new set sports the 19S GBW piece and a host of other goodies. Just didn't have the dough to buy that 19S when it appeared on Pinnacle's website. Such a pretty half.
For example my best type coin is 1808 quarter eagle in PCGS AU-50. Dollar for dollar I would be FAR better off if I had spent the money I did on that piece on 20th century coins in MS-67. Ditto for every other early U.S. coin I own. A Type I Standing Liberty Quarter in MS-67 gets almost as many registry points as my 1796 Quarter in VF-25. The 1796 Quarter is worth close to ten times as much as the Type I Standing Liberty quarter in high grade.
Finally they allowed a guy to put 1804 restrike cent in the Draped Bust Cent (1796-1807) category. His 19th century counterfeit was graded MS-65, brown, and he got the registry points just like it was a real coin. He gets far more points for that piece than I get for a genuine 1803 large cent in AU-50.
With rules like that, I don’t care about the registry rankings. They are bogus.
I have won awards for “best presented set” and to me that means more. At least I’m educating people who open my sets for a look. What use are registry sets with no pictures and no descriptions? You may as well read ads in Coin World. They are more interesting.
I can't get in the top 20 with my mercury dimes.
Not really looking for much these days but if I were, it might be a toner.
<< <i>The Gerald Forsythe sets for Walking Liberty half dollars are far and away unreachable.
The LuLu short set of Walkers possesses the only 42-S in 67 and the now famous (or infamous) $109K 44P.
These sets do not affect my collection in the least. In fact, neither of the aforementioned collections include pix. The Gerald Forsythe collection is 'blacked out' so you don't even see the coin grades [I've always wondered what was the point in that]. Kudos to the Cajun collections for posting nice photos.
I'm proud of my collection and I include pix of most coins - evnentually I'll get photos of all of my coins.
I don't expect #1 will be attained, but I'm #4 for the short set, and if I can EVER find an acceptable 35D, I'll be #2 in the late date set. Oodles of work to do on the early dates - that will keep me occupied for decades.
We are all taught that #1 is the be-all and end-all. However, I've found that there are half dollars that are superior in eye appeal to the one or two that exist in a higher grade. My 35P is an example. So, even if that highest-grade coin were to appear (and I had the scratch) I would pass. Set registry is fun, but if I'm happy with my piece, I not going to be a slave to numbers.
Finally, I'd like to acknowledge and welcome RLevoi to the Walking Liberty group. That new set sports the 19S GBW piece and a host of other goodies. Just didn't have the dough to buy that 19S when it appeared on Pinnacle's website. Such a pretty half. >>
Thanks for the welcome, JBN--my registry name is RLevoi. I've been around for awhile but haven't posted here much. I echo a lot of your comments about the folks ahead of us, like Gerald Forsythe. He has an unbelievable set of Buffalos with photos so I hope someday he does the same with his Walkers. I assume he just purchased the 21-S in 66.
As for the 19-S, I thought long and hard before I bought it, given its price, but I had seen it in hand and it's all there. It was starting to mess with my sleep (yes, I'm a coin collector) and so that was my excuse to pull the trigger.
By the way, I am looking for the right 35D myself. Tough date!
"Look up, old boy, and see what you get." -William Bonney.
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<< <i>The Gerald Forsythe sets for Walking Liberty half dollars are far and away unreachable.
The LuLu short set of Walkers possesses the only 42-S in 67 and the now famous (or infamous) $109K 44P.
These sets do not affect my collection in the least. In fact, neither of the aforementioned collections include pix. The Gerald Forsythe collection is 'blacked out' so you don't even see the coin grades [I've always wondered what was the point in that]. Kudos to the Cajun collections for posting nice photos.
I'm proud of my collection and I include pix of most coins - evnentually I'll get photos of all of my coins.
I don't expect #1 will be attained, but I'm #4 for the short set, and if I can EVER find an acceptable 35D, I'll be #2 in the late date set. Oodles of work to do on the early dates - that will keep me occupied for decades.
We are all taught that #1 is the be-all and end-all. However, I've found that there are half dollars that are superior in eye appeal to the one or two that exist in a higher grade. My 35P is an example. So, even if that highest-grade coin were to appear (and I had the scratch) I would pass. Set registry is fun, but if I'm happy with my piece, I not going to be a slave to numbers.
Finally, I'd like to acknowledge and welcome RLevoi to the Walking Liberty group. That new set sports the 19S GBW piece and a host of other goodies. Just didn't have the dough to buy that 19S when it appeared on Pinnacle's website. Such a pretty half. >>
Thanks for the welcome, JBN--my registry name is RLevoi. I've been around for awhile but haven't posted here much. I echo a lot of your comments about the folks ahead of us, like Gerald Forsythe. He has an unbelievable set of Buffalos with photos so I hope someday he does the same with his Walkers. I assume he just purchased the 21-S in 66.
As for the 19-S, I thought long and hard before I bought it, given its price, but I had seen it in hand and it's all there. It was starting to mess with my sleep (yes, I'm a coin collector) and so that was my excuse to pull the trigger.
By the way, I am looking for the right 35D myself. Tough date! >>
You have great taste in coins. I had a good time browsing your set. I try to visit the registry listing at least once per month. Seeing a new set come up in the rankings so high made me take notice.
Nice to hear the 19S has a good home. Thanks for the reply.
My Complete PROOF Lincoln Cent with Major Varieties(1909-2015)Set Registry
<< <i>Are you serious? The PCGS Registry is by definition the world standard of coin collections, and to be #1 in any category (something I am actively working on but may never attain) requires time, patience, not to mention the ability and willingness to spend some serious money. I've shelled out $200,000 to build my proof penny collection and I am at #3. I am not upset in the least if I never achieve the #1 position. I am happy with my collection and will add and improve upon it as time and money allows.
If you can't swim don't jump in the deep end of the pool. >>
Glad you had $200k to shell out for some pennies
And, yes, I was serious with my question, but thank you for asking.
See, I am not an elitist but I like the registry concept. As some have posted, I mainly use it for tracking the coins and fun, but I did try to get competitive in a couple of areas and, in one of them (the modern one), the fact that I could never take #1 had me bow out.
In the classic one, if I shelled out $200k like you, since it is an everyman's set, I could take #1, but I don't have that kind of discretionary income, nor would I use it for that purpose since I have a wife and kid I want to give a good life to which takes priority over even a nice hobby like coins.
So, I'll keep plodding along with my dogpaddling and deadman's floating when I am in the deep end of the pool
I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment
I really don't care. I like the inventory software. Registry sets that spit out are kind of interesting.
Lance.
Currently #60 and will never be #1. Hope to break the top 20 one day.
Complete U.S. Type Set.
I know it is just a modern series that we collect so the “old guys” don’t give us a second look, most would probable say “Collect Kennedys, does anybody bother with that series?” But when you are 14, you collect what you can aford.
Hoard the keys.
Experience the World through Numismatics...it's more than you can imagine.
because Dale Friend, Sunnywood and Steve Duckor sold their collections.
Here's a link to my Barber Quarter Collection
There are a few potentially outstanding collections in the making now. I expect to
be bumped from the number one spot very soon by Chugum... and if YeOldeOne
ever gets rid of those soap-bars - he'll easily take over 1st place.
I'm at the number 3 spot on Barber Halves with and without Varieties... again, I seriously
doubt I'll ever get into the number one spot; I'm very surprised that I made it to the # 3 spot.
I'm in and out of the top 5 spots on the Barber Dimes - I think I'm up to # 4 on the "With Major
Varieties"... I slipped to # 6 on the Basic set... I think Chugum and rhedden knocked me down a
spot [ or two ]. Again, I never expected to get as high in the rankings as I have.
One thing I have learned from my last 15 years of collecting, always buy the best you can afford.
I hope this proves to be true when it comes time to sell.
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Coin collecting is not a hobby, it's an obsession !
New Barber Purchases
In both, I'm #3 in one set that is somewhat popular, and #1 in a set that isn't so popular at PCGS (3 participants). I will never be #1 in the first set because I don't want to upgrade coins I have (selling dupes is a hassle) and it's a mint set and going after every single mint-mark just lost it for me once I got all the denominations done. The one where I'm #1, I will be #1 up until the day that someone else decides to care about it enough to outspend me.
However it was fun - I did sit there and figure out how much $ it would take for me to be #1 in the first set, was an enjoyable afternoon.
-Fred
Successful BST (me as buyer) with: Collectorcoins, PipestonePete, JasonRiffeRareCoins
on an even level. i do not feel like debating a "great set" versus the highest ranked set.
I will leave that for Legend blogs to delve into.
What may be fun is a registry set area where everyone has a set amount of money
to spend on a group of coins, has to scan in receipts to show what they paid, and
put everyone on a level playing field. then heart, dedication, hunting, etc... allow
one to progress beyond those who have money but no soul ;-)
It helps to collect an unpopular series few collect by date.
I believe there are are some superb $2.50 sets being assembled that have never been registered. Once they are registered I am not likely to ever see #1 again.
https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/gold/liberty-head-2-1-gold-major-sets/liberty-head-2-1-gold-basic-set-circulation-strikes-1840-1907-cac/alltimeset/268163
March of Time - 27 Centuries in Gold
https://coins.www.collectors-society.com/WCM/CoinCustomSetView.aspx?s=36590
<< <i>What may be fun is a registry set area where everyone has a set amount of money
to spend on a group of coins, has to scan in receipts to show what they paid, and
put everyone on a level playing field. >>
I agree, that would be a fun way to do it.
>>>The PCGS Registry is by definition the world standard of coin collections>>>
if you beleive this your are very much uninformed
saying this is like saying you want to look for miss america but use only girls from one side of the mississippi...........unless you use both sides you cant possibly be " the standard "
those who only collect pcgs or just ngc coins cant possibly ever expect to compete for " the world standard " of any series...and to think so is pure folley and delutional
enjoy the hunt
monsterman
out of rockets ...out of bullets...switching to harsh language
1936 Mint Set
U.S. Nickels Complete Set with Major Varieties, Circulation Strikes
U.S. Dimes Complete Set with Major Varieties, Circulation Strikes
That said, I feel compelled to defend PCGS 's registry system. I am actually registered in both PCGS and NGC but I find that PCGS is superior because 1) they offer a wider variety of sets and subsets, 2) stronger competition in both numbers and coin quality, and 3) their (my opinion) stricter grading standards provide more prestige for their sets.
There can be no doubt that some NGC sets are better than equally ranked PCGS sets. The ones I collect are clearly in favor of a PCGS bias. A bit off topic, but it would be interesting if others who collect different series believe the same to be true with their sets.
As for the mythical unslabbed MS 69 mint sets of 1796 (lol) locked in some mansion on the east coast, they will be eventually slabbed or spent for spare change at the local drug store, depending on the intellect of the collector's heirs.
It isn't that difficult. I *PRIMARILY* use the registry for cataloging, etc.
I do *ALSO* do a few sets for fun and competition. That is the impetus for the thread. And, I know myself but was wondering others.
Does that help you understand the post/thread a little better and my posts in it? I didn't think it was that hard, but happy to explain it better if you need.
I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment
Ron
WS
#8 in Kennedy Proofs with Complete Varieties but will never make the #1
I will never own a PR70 DCAM.
The cost involved IMHO can not be justified.
I will upgrade my 1964 thru 1968 coins as they become available.
My goal is a 100% DCAM set.
Regards, Larry
It IS about the fun and the actual registry doesn't change it for many of us. Sometimes, though, "you" may do a set for the competition, hit a certain point, and not really be able to move forward so, for that particular set, "one" may get "bored" and "move on"
Thanks again to those that answered what was asked.
And, MikeinFl...yes, you are a (registry) weenie
I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment