Does a toned coin stop toning once it's encapsulated?
crazyhounddog
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I've always wondered about this, I would think that what ever foreign substance that got on the coin in the first place, to make it tone, would continue after it has been encapsulated. Does anyone have the answer to this question? Or does anyone have a coin that has continued to tone after it has been slabbed?......Joe
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or have increased the toning over 6-10 years.
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<< <i>I know some of the NGC "Battlecreek" toned Morgans kept turning darker in the holders. >>
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<< <i>I know some of the NGC "Battlecreek" toned Morgans kept turning darker in the holders. >>
I feel the same way
<< <i>They certainly can continue to tone... and the slabs are NOT airtight.... Cheers, RickO >>
And even if they were they're not vacuum packed.
I collect ASE's in green label PCI slabs that have wonderful multicolored target toning. Most of these green label PCI have "100% white" printed on the label. So they were 100% white when holdered.
<< <i>silver is a reactive metal, It will continue to react for all of time and at best it will just react to whats in the slab internally and slow down. Today's rainbow are tomorrows deeply toned coins. >>
I've often wondered what tomorrows toned coins will look like? Do ya think they'll get horribly ugly??
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<< <i>silver is a reactive metal, It will continue to react for all of time and at best it will just react to whats in the slab internally and slow down. Today's rainbow are tomorrows deeply toned coins. >>
I've often wondered what tomorrows toned coins will look like? Do ya think they'll get horribly ugly?? >>
No
MJ
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<< <i>silver is a reactive metal, It will continue to react for all of time and at best it will just react to whats in the slab internally and slow down. Today's rainbow are tomorrows deeply toned coins. >>
I've often wondered what tomorrows toned coins will look like? Do ya think they'll get horribly ugly?? >>
No
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Just like some coins have toned well and others look bad now, the same will happen to todays. That being said all will turn black soon or a later if left alone, sorry ricko
<< <i>I have a PCGS slabbed coin that I purchased over 20 years ago at a Superior auction. The coin was heavily toned (beautiful) then and still looks exactly like the color photo in the auction catalog. No changes whatsoever. >>
That's probably because it toned from an album or being in an envelope which is not present in the capsule.
so if you take it away from that......
<< <i>I wish people would do a search and read TomB's dissertation on tarnish... there are several others as well here on the forum. Tarnish is a progressive reaction, the colors are an intermediary state between no tarnish and the eventual black it will become. Cheers, RickO >>
Not true.....not all coins tone black...if the coin is removed from the environment that caused the toning the the progression will effectively cease or will continue at such a slow pace that over your lifetime you will not notice a difference. The exception are AT coins or coins that have had chemicals applied to the surface and have not had those chemicals effictively neutralized. That's the dangers with artificially toned coins.....they usually do continue to tone until they go black becuase they continue to react to the chemicals on the coins surface.
I have very serious doubts as to the validity of the statement made about the battle creeks getting darker only becuase I purchased many of these coins when the hoard was first sold off and I have subsequently seen many of the rainbow monsters still in the original holder that look identical today as they did when holdered. I am not saying it's not possible.....I am just saying that I will believe it when I see some sort of proof like before and after photo's. So far to date I have read about 5 reports of this phenomenon and seen zero proof.....but then again here on the forums we don't need proof to make factual statement do we
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Even if perfectly rinsed I'm not sure that some type of toning won't eventually form. I had pure white 1853 NA 25c in PCGS MS66 back in the mid-1990's. It was probably freshly dipped in the late 1980's. By 2004 it had a complete ring of dullish brown peripheral toning on both sides of the coin. Over time it is only going to progress and become less and less attractive.
roadrunner
In the 70's and 80's the great collector Hon Jimmy Hays of Louisiana kept his copper in a vault in high dry Denver with silica gel for an extra level of protection.
Greg
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<< <i>They certainly can continue to tone... and the slabs are NOT airtight.... Cheers, RickO >>
Look! RickO said "tone", not "tarnish".
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