I have seen this coin in hand at an earlier auction appearance , and the luster and surfaces are spectacular, but I was not as impressed with the look!
<< <i>I have seen this coin in hand at an earlier auction appearance , and the luster and surfaces are spectacular, but I was not as impressed with the look! >>
How can the luster and surfaces be spectacular and you not be impressed with the look......what did you not like.
I manage money. I earn money. I save money . I give away money. I collect money. I don’t love money . I do love the Lord God.
The ex-Jack Lee coin, purchased and promoted by Jay Parrino (The Mint) around 12 years ago or so....I don't recall seeing the splotchy toning in the ad back then, but maybe the pic was airbrushed a little, or maybe my memory has been Regardless, the one and only 66 coin, and will likely stay that way.
<< <i>I have seen this coin in hand at an earlier auction appearance , and the luster and surfaces are spectacular, but I was not as impressed with the look! >>
How can the luster and surfaces be spectacular and you not be impressed with the look......what did you not like. >>
Many coins exhibit wonderful luster and hardly any flaws, but also possess unappealing looking toning. So, their "look" (eye-appeal) might not be impressive.
This type of toning is common for older silver coins that have their original skin. I can tell from the photo that the coin has phenomenal luster. The trouble is many collectors would not like the toning which would lead many dealers to dip off the toning. Dipping probably would impair the luster to an extent. Fortunately this coin has been in the hands of those like original coins.
When collectors ask why coins get dipped here is an example of the answer why. They are dipped to make the coins more commercially acceptable, and in some cases when the toning is detrimental, preservation purposes.
Retired dealer and avid collector of U.S. type coins, 19th century presidential campaign medalets and selected medals. In recent years I have been working on a set of British coins - at least one coin from each king or queen who issued pieces that are collectible. I am also collecting at least one coin for each Roman emperor from Julius Caesar to ... ?
Many coins of this era tone much differently than earlier dates. You hardly ever (maybe never) see the rainbow toning typical of coins of the Barber/Pre-21 Morgan coins on 1921 dates. Just think of all the wonderfully rainbow-toned 1921 Morgans and Peace dollars, Missouri and Alabama Commems you have seen (Natural). Not many. If fact, if this coin had a rainbow tone or was white, I would say it was previously dipped.
I think it has something to do with the way they washed the planchets.
<< <i>Many coins of this era tone much differently than earlier dates. You hardly ever (maybe never) see the rainbow toning typical of coins of the Barber/Pre-21 Morgan coins on 1921 dates. Just think of all the wonderfully rainbow-toned 1921 Morgans and Peace dollars, Missouri and Alabama Commems you have seen (Natural). Not many. If fact, if this coin had a rainbow tone or was white, I would say it was previously dipped.
I think it has something to do with the way they washed the planchets. >>
Not sure if the toning on this particular Walker is bag toning or some other kind. Your premise about the pre-21 vs post-21 toning is widely believed to be the reason why there are so few bag toned 1921 Morgans and all dates of Peace dollars.
<< <i>Not sure if the toning on this particular Walker is bag toning or some other kind. >>
Highly unlikely that it would be bag toning, IMO. Not because of the appearance, but the very low survival rate of specimens above XF would indicate most went into circulation quickly after being coined. This was a scarce and expensive coin in MS even back in the 1940's, so if a bag of 21S walkers sat around for decades acquiring toning before seeing the light of day, I think high grade specimens would be more prevelant in today's market place.
Yes. Considering that coin prolly went in excess of $250,000 it's safe to say it's not for most of us
MJ
Walker Proof Digital Album Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
"I notice that Mr. Forsythe just updated (and upgraded) his Walker registry set."
sheesh, the #1 guy.
I'm just behind some cat who doesn't even have 100%, but he's rated 7 points higher (14 pt GPA more, and sharp). When you're down to mostly nothing but early Walkers to try to upgrade, the pace slows dramatically, ...but it's still fun!
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I give away money. I collect money.
I don’t love money . I do love the Lord God.
I'm not a big fan of heavier-type toning, but I dern sure wouldn't throw that baby out with the bathwater.
<< <i>I have seen this coin in hand at an earlier auction appearance , and the luster and surfaces are spectacular, but I was not as impressed with the look! >>
How can the luster and surfaces be spectacular and you not be impressed with the look......what did you not like.
I give away money. I collect money.
I don’t love money . I do love the Lord God.
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<< <i>I have seen this coin in hand at an earlier auction appearance , and the luster and surfaces are spectacular, but I was not as impressed with the look! >>
How can the luster and surfaces be spectacular and you not be impressed with the look......what did you not like. >>
Many coins exhibit wonderful luster and hardly any flaws, but also possess unappealing looking toning. So, their "look" (eye-appeal) might not be impressive.
When collectors ask why coins get dipped here is an example of the answer why. They are dipped to make the coins more commercially acceptable, and in some cases when the toning is detrimental, preservation purposes.
I think it has something to do with the way they washed the planchets.
<< <i>Many coins of this era tone much differently than earlier dates. You hardly ever (maybe never) see the rainbow toning typical of coins of the Barber/Pre-21 Morgan coins on 1921 dates. Just think of all the wonderfully rainbow-toned 1921 Morgans and Peace dollars, Missouri and Alabama Commems you have seen (Natural). Not many. If fact, if this coin had a rainbow tone or was white, I would say it was previously dipped.
I think it has something to do with the way they washed the planchets. >>
Not sure if the toning on this particular Walker is bag toning or some other kind. Your premise about the pre-21 vs post-21 toning is widely believed to be the reason why there are so few bag toned 1921 Morgans and all dates of Peace dollars.
<< <i>The rim "tarnish" is awesome. Means the coin's real. Who wants a coin that's been dipped? Not me! >>
<< <i>Not sure if the toning on this particular Walker is bag toning or some other kind. >>
Highly unlikely that it would be bag toning, IMO. Not because of the appearance, but the very low survival rate of specimens above XF would indicate most went into circulation quickly after being coined. This was a scarce and expensive coin in MS even back in the 1940's, so if a bag of 21S walkers sat around for decades acquiring toning before seeing the light of day, I think high grade specimens would be more prevelant in today's market place.
<< <i>its not for me. thanks
Yes. Considering that coin prolly went in excess of $250,000 it's safe to say it's not for most of us
MJ
Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
Not my cup of tea even if I wanted to spend that kind of money on
a fifty cent piece.
bob
Looks like one neat Walker. Congrats to the new owner.
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<< <i>I notice that Mr. Forsythe just updated (and upgraded) his Walker registry set. Probably not a coincidence. >>
Sometimes what I cannot see, I have a hard time to believe.
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"I notice that Mr. Forsythe just updated (and upgraded) his Walker registry set."
sheesh, the #1 guy.
I'm just behind some cat who doesn't even have 100%, but he's rated 7 points higher (14 pt GPA more, and sharp). When you're down to mostly nothing but early Walkers to try to upgrade, the pace slows dramatically, ...but it's still fun!
ed. - to correct point #'s