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How to get rid of milk spots?

ajmanajman Posts: 1,359 ✭✭✭
Forgive me if this topic has come up ad nauseum, but can anyone tell me or point me in the right direction with a previous thread about the subject, of how to remove milk spots. I have some inexpensive Frankilns that I would like to try this on. Also any tips would surely be appreciated. Thanks guys, Tony.
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  • lcoopielcoopie Posts: 8,875 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I don't think it can be done

    if they are inexpensive, you could always dip them, but I don't think it will work
    LCoopie = Les
  • DennisHDennisH Posts: 14,040 ✭✭✭✭✭
    PCGS has offered a large prize to anyone who can come up with an effective way of doing this.
    When in doubt, don't.
  • QBertQBert Posts: 312 ✭✭✭
    I have often wondered. What exactly is a milk spot? (Chemistry behind it)


  • << <i>I have often wondered. What exactly is a milk spot? (Chemistry behind it) >>



    Every winter solstice, run away cows storm the mints and release their dairy onto the planchet piles. No one knows why or how.


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    << <i>I have often wondered. What exactly is a milk spot? (Chemistry behind it) >>



    Every winter solstice, run away cows storm the mints and release their dairy onto the planchet piles. No one knows why or how. >>



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  • cmerlo1cmerlo1 Posts: 8,028 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I have had some limited success with CLR- another forum member suggested it a while back, when I posed the same question. You buy it at the grocery store- it's a cleaner for calcuim, lime, and rust removal. I also know that it will ruin 40% Kennedy Halves if left too long in it- I have 3 blackened proof 1968-S halves that used to be deep cameo DDO's. I have soaked 90% proof Kennedy halves in it overnight without any issues (with a distilled water bath afterward), but it is not effective on big spots, and I haven't tried it on ASE's...

    *****Try at your own risk!******
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  • HyperionHyperion Posts: 7,464 ✭✭✭
    the only way to effectively get rid of milk spotted stuff is to sell the affected coins image
  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 39,193 ✭✭✭✭✭
    no solution(ha!) yet.
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  • BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>PCGS has offered a large prize to anyone who can come up with an effective way of doing this. >>



    A hand held cleaning steamer filled with distilled water should remove the spots... Whats my prize image
    To Err Is Human.... To Collect Err's Is Just Too Much Darn Tootin Fun!
  • BAJJERFANBAJJERFAN Posts: 31,615 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I have often wondered. What exactly is a milk spot? (Chemistry behind it) >>



    I believe it is mostly chlorine based, suggestive of some kind of bleaching process. I messaged Don Willis asking if the coin sniffer had been unleashed on the milk spotting problem, but have yet to receive a reply. Once you can see em yer screwed.
    theknowitalltroll;
  • GoldbullyGoldbully Posts: 18,491 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I sent in my sealed case of 2006-W 20th Anniversaries for grading at PCGS.
    That was 10 sets of three......Proof, Reverse Proof, and Unc.
    As of today, 24 of the 30 coins have milks spots!!!!!!!
    Anyone else have that big a problem with theirs??
    I wish I sold them within a few months of slabbing....but, I didn't!! imageimageimageimageimageimage

  • BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Even my ASE Die Trial Adjustment Strike has developed spots! image

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  • dcarrdcarr Posts: 10,039 ✭✭✭✭✭
    "Milk Spots" are a form of corrosion. There is no way to reverse the process.
    Re-polishing the spot areas on the coin will cause more harm than good, usually.

    I believe the spots are "horn silver" (silver chloride). There are chemical procedures
    to convert silver chloride back into pure silver. But none of those methods will give
    you back the original proof finish. Once the original proof (or satin luster) surface of
    the coin is disturbed by corrosion, there is no way to get it back.

    Ironically, however, I believe that the formation of milk spots can be pre-empted by
    a proper "dipping" of the coin. If the coin is untoned - dipping won't hurt it.
    If the coin is toned, the silver oxide coating will prevent the formation of silver chloride.
  • sinin1sinin1 Posts: 7,500
    one form of milk spots is silver chloride - which becomesan etching of the surface similar to PVC contamination/attack


    ammonia will remove spots, but may leave a 'hole' depending on extent of etching/attack


    some people have hypothesized that PCGS SAEs have larger incidence because of CA location and salt in air from Pacific ocean


    PCGS had made a big deal and offered a reward in a couple of the coin magazines/newspapers - which I suspect was a publicity stunt with no intention of following through as nothing heard from since
  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    To support dcarr's pre-spot dipping process, Russ has long maintained that an acetone dip, on unspotted coins, will prevent future milkspotting. Cheers, RickO
  • tahoe98tahoe98 Posts: 11,388 ✭✭✭

    ...is this problem happen AFTER the coin is slabbed or are there a number of them in original government packages too with the same problem? image
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  • BAJJERFANBAJJERFAN Posts: 31,615 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>...is this problem happen AFTER the coin is slabbed or are there a number of them in original government packages too with the same problem? image >>



    It is a problem BEFORE and AFTER slabbing.
    theknowitalltroll;
  • 2manycoins2fewfunds2manycoins2fewfunds Posts: 3,081 ✭✭✭
    Sandpaper removes even the larger spots.
  • tahoe98tahoe98 Posts: 11,388 ✭✭✭




    << <i>It is a problem BEFORE and AFTER slabbing. >>



    ...well then, the mint is still on the hook. image
    "government is not reason, it is not eloquence-it is a force! like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master; never for a moment should it be left to irresponsible action." George Washington
  • mumumumu Posts: 1,840


    << <i>Sandpaper removes even the larger spots. >>



    Thanks for the tip. I am going to go try this right now.

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