I remember guys like David Clyde from the early 1970's and Brien Taylor of Yanks in the early 90's. Suppose to be stud pitchers that never panned out. Same with Van Poppel mentioned already.
That's a lot of coin for a card of a guy that hasn't won ONE game yet in the bigs. Hopefully this guy is the real deal for the buyer of the card.
<< <i>The card will never be worth this much again unless he manages to win 400 games. Even then, I'd take the 'under' bet. >>
Exactly! Built into that price is the idea that he is the greatest and most popular pitcher of all time by a longshot and even then the price should not maintain because it's a 2010 card. When you look at the price of the most valuable and scarce cards of pitchers in existence as of today, it's probably the highest graded examples of T206 Walter Johnson and Mathewson, the highest graded examples of 55 Koufax and 68 or 75 Ryan. And then as of this week throw into the mix, this slightly off-centered raw Strasburg 1/1 card. No matter what he does, it's hard to imagine he will outdo the expectations built into the collector's mind who today would spend 15-20,000 for it. Maybe nine consecutive Cy Young awards and a handful of no-hitters in the playoffs could get an increase in value.
I dont understand why some "worry" about the buyer spending this kind of $. Obviously the person who bid $17k has enough $. It's not like they have been saving up for this. It could be like me eating Taco Bell. I buy it, eat it and it's nothing special. But to a displaced person, they savor every bite of that 1 taco. There is a crazy possibility that the bidder is not buying for an investment. They could want it to show off. " I have his 1st MLB issued 1/1 Superfractor". Another trophy on the mantle and they have to "overpay" to get it. Just like I would overpay for rare Ripkens I want.
Exactly! Built into that price is the idea that he is the greatest and most popular pitcher of all time by a longshot and even then the price should not maintain because it's a 2010 card. . >>
How do you know what it, and what isn't, 'built into the price of the card'? The only people who know this are the people who are the 1st and 2nd highest bidders. For all you (or I) know one of the high bidders is Strasburg himself, who's bidding on it just to have his own most valuable rookie card. You can speculate on what's 'built into' the price of equities based on P/E ratios, profit projections and so forth, but you can't do this with rare collectibles because there's no other commodity with a market value to which you can compare.
A Van Gogh painting once sold for nine figures-- what's 'built' into that price?
HUGE HUGE number of bid cancellations in this auction. Wow.
Bid retraction and cancellation history
Bidder Action / Explanation Date of Bid and Retraction Member Id: o***e( 481) Cancelled: US $15,049.83 Explanation: Can not get a hold of bidder/ Email if serious Bid: May-25-10 15:17:07 PDT Cancelled: May-25-10 15:21:16 PDT Member Id: a***a( 470) Cancelled: US $14,425.00 Explanation: Administrative Cancellation/ Please email to get approved Bid: May-25-10 19:00:35 PDT Cancelled: May-25-10 19:07:25 PDT Member Id: a***z( 121) Cancelled: US $14,305.00 Explanation: Administrative Cancellation/ Please email to get approved Bid: May-25-10 19:07:46 PDT Cancelled: May-25-10 19:09:01 PDT Member Id: d***l( 281) Retracted: US $10,599.00 Explanation: Entered wrong amount Bid: May-25-10 12:26:02 PDT Retracted: May-25-10 12:27:06 PDT Member Id: c***o( 118) Cancelled: US $12,500.00 Explanation: Administrative Cancellation/ Please email to get approved Bid: May-25-10 16:43:51 PDT Cancelled: May-25-10 18:07:12 PDT Member Id: b***n( 143) Cancelled: US $13,567.26 Explanation: Administrative Cancellation/ Please email to get approved Bid: May-25-10 17:14:08 PDT Cancelled: May-25-10 18:05:42 PDT Member Id: u***g( 24) Cancelled: US $149,000.00 Explanation: Administrative Cancellation/ Please email to get approved Bid: May-25-10 21:40:25 PDT Cancelled: May-25-10 21:41:29 PDT Member Id: u***s( 57) Cancelled: US $14,402.56 Explanation: Administrative Cancellation/ Please email to get approved Bid: May-25-10 17:59:06 PDT Cancelled: May-25-10 18:04:36 PDT Member Id: 0***a( 1380) Retracted: US $4,000.00 Explanation: Entered wrong amount Bid: May-19-10 19:56:11 PDT Retracted: May-19-10 19:57:51 PDT Member Id: m***n( 198) Cancelled: US $15,500.00 Explanation: Administrative Cancellation/ Please email to get approved Bid: May-25-10 19:17:44 PDT Cancelled: May-25-10 19:22:00 PDT Member Id: s***w( 8615) Cancelled: US $7,100.00 Explanation: Cancelled per bidder request Bid: May-20-10 07:41:27 PDT Cancelled: May-20-10 15:17:41 PDT Member Id: i***n( 584) Cancelled: US $12,500.00 Explanation: Administrative Cancellation/ Please email to be approved to bid Bid: May-25-10 15:38:38 PDT Cancelled: May-25-10 16:01:15 PDT Member Id: d***g( 15) Cancelled: US $12,000.00 Explanation: Low Feedback Bidder Bid: May-25-10 14:45:29 PDT Cancelled: May-25-10 15:05:46 PDT Member Id: k***k( 13) Retracted: US $50,000.00 Explanation: Entered wrong amount Bid: May-26-10 09:38:06 PDT Retracted: May-26-10 09:48:57 PDT Member Id: 7***o( 865) Cancelled: US $14,900.00 Explanation: Administrative Cancellation/ Please email to get approved Bid: May-25-10 20:15:47 PDT Cancelled: May-25-10 20:17:23 PDT Member Id: c***c( 82) Cancelled: US $17,000.00 Explanation: Administrative Cancellation/ Please email to be approved to bid Bid: May-26-10 05:27:28 PDT Cancelled: May-26-10 09:30:29 PDT Member Id: e***e( 5 ) Cancelled: US $14,400.00 Explanation: Administrative Cancellation/ Please email to get approved Bid: May-25-10 19:55:39 PDT Cancelled: May-25-10 19:57:37 PDT Member Id: b***u( 9 ) Cancelled: US $16,500.00 Explanation: Administrative Cancellation/ Please email to get approved Bid: May-25-10 20:42:01 PDT Cancelled: May-25-10 20:46:38 PDT Member Id: k***s( 67) Cancelled: US $12,400.00 Explanation: Poor Feedback Bidder Bid: May-25-10 16:27:32 PDT Cancelled: May-25-10 16:31:22 PDT Member Id: l***k( 87) Cancelled: US $15,000.00 Explanation: Administrative Cancellation/ Please email to be approved to bid Bid: May-25-10 16:41:40 PDT Cancelled: May-25-10 16:51:42 PDT Member Id: k***o( 55) Cancelled: US $15,000.00 Explanation: Can not get a hold of bidder Bid: May-25-10 15:04:47 PDT Cancelled: May-25-10 15:17:02 PDT Member Id: 1***t( 677) Retracted: US $11,500.00 Explanation: Entered wrong amount Bid: May-25-10 14:12:31 PDT Retracted: May-25-10 14:13:41 PDT Member Id: t***n( 516) Retracted: US $15,400.00 Explanation: Seller changed the description of the item Bid: May-25-10 21:33:35 PDT Retracted: May-25-10 21:37:40 PDT Member Id: 9***6( 16) Cancelled: US $12,700.00 Explanation: Administrative Cancellation/ Please email to be approved to bid Bid: May-25-10 16:49:38 PDT Cancelled: May-25-10 16:50:53 PDT Member Id: h***v( 16) Cancelled: US $15,035.25 Explanation: Administrative Cancellation/ Please email to get approved Bid: May-25-10 17:48:54 PDT Cancelled: May-25-10 18:04:04 PDT Member Id: a***h( 18) Retracted: US $17,200.00 Explanation: Entered wrong amount Bid: May-26-10 06:32:56 PDT Retracted: May-26-10 08:22:41 PDT Member Id: u***l( 9 ) Cancelled: US $10,800.00 Explanation: Administrative Cancellation Bid: May-25-10 13:16:45 PDT Cancelled: May-25-10 13:21:51 PDT Member Id: h***c( 117) Cancelled: US $14,299.99 Explanation: Administrative Cancellation/ Please email to get approved Bid: May-25-10 18:59:56 PDT Cancelled: May-25-10 19:07:41 PDT Member Id: e***5( 142) Cancelled: US $12,800.00 Explanation: Administrative Cancellation/ Please email to get approved Bid: May-25-10 17:01:27 PDT Cancelled: May-25-10 18:07:01 PDT Member Id: e***r( 54) Cancelled: US $10,599.00 Explanation: Poor bidder feedback Bid: May-24-10 21:45:58 PDT Cancelled: May-24-10 21:55:05 PDT Member Id: j***g( 920) Cancelled: US $14,499.99 Explanation: Administrative Cancellation/ Please email to get approved Bid: May-25-10 19:01:24 PDT Cancelled: May-25-10 19:05:08 PDT Member Id: r***e( 225) Cancelled: US $12,300.00 Explanation: Administrative Cancellation/ Please email to be approved to bid Bid: May-25-10 15:51:46 PDT Cancelled: May-25-10 16:01:40 PDT Member Id: 8***t( 102) Cancelled: US $14,300.00 Explanation: Administrative Cancellation/ Please email to get approved Bid: May-25-10 18:07:32 PDT Cancelled: May-25-10 18:09:55 PDT Member Id: g***1( 4 ) Cancelled: US $11,000.00 Explanation: Low Feedback Bidder Bid: May-25-10 13:38:09 PDT Cancelled: May-25-10 13:42:20 PDT Member Id: d***5( 322) Retracted: US $11,000.00 Explanation: Entered wrong amount Bid: May-24-10 11:49:56 PDT Retracted: May-24-10 14:21:38 PDT Member Id: c***7( 360) Cancelled: US $14,300.00 Explanation: Administrative Cancellation/ Please email to get approved Bid: May-25-10 19:30:17 PDT Cancelled: May-25-10 19:34:01 PDT Member Id: 0***c( 854) Retracted: US $12,500.00 Explanation: Cannot contact the seller Bid: May-25-10 15:21:17 PDT Retracted: May-25-10 15:22:11 PDT Member Id: r***a( 101) Cancelled: US $15,500.00 Explanation: Administrative Cancellation/ Please email to get approved Bid: May-25-10 21:10:46 PDT Cancelled: May-25-10 21:36:07 PDT Member Id: a***o( 16) Cancelled: US $10,000.00 Explanation: Can not contact borrower Bid: May-23-10 17:08:03 PDT Cancelled: May-23-10 17:38:53 PDT Member Id: s***d( 24) Cancelled: US $14,599.99 Explanation: Administrative Cancellation/ Please email to get approved Bid: May-25-10 19:01:48 PDT Cancelled: May-25-10 19:02:56 PDT Member Id: a***m( 10) Cancelled: US $15,000.00 Explanation: Administrative Cancellation/ Please email to get approved Bid: May-25-10 21:53:17 PDT Cancelled: May-25-10 21:56:54 PDT Member Id: w***4( 86) Retracted: US $15,100.00 Explanation: Entered wrong amount Bid: May-26-10 00:30:55 PDT Retracted: May-26-10 00:32:03 PDT Member Id: e***e( 17) Cancelled: US $15,000.00 Explanation: Administrative Cancellation/ Please email to get approved Bid: May-25-10 22:07:47 PDT Cancelled: May-25-10 22:10:54 PDT Member Id: r***w( 32) Cancelled: US $10,590.00 Explanation: Can not contact bidder Bid: May-24-10 11:18:14 PDT Cancelled: May-24-10 12:34:45 PDT Member Id: l***e( 20) Cancelled: US $14,299.99 Explanation: Administrative Cancellation/ Please email to get approved Bid: May-25-10 19:26:07 PDT Cancelled: May-25-10 19:26:50 PDT Member Id: m***a( 385) Retracted: US $15,001.00 Explanation: Entered wrong amount Bid: May-25-10 23:40:30 PDT Retracted: May-26-10 03:08:10 PDT Member Id: 2***c( 45) Cancelled: US $12,300.00 Explanation: Poor Feedback Bidder Bid: May-25-10 15:08:38 PDT Cancelled: May-25-10 15:10:01 PDT Member Id: w***u( 2 ) Cancelled: US $11,500.00 Explanation: Low Feedback Bidder Bid: May-25-10 13:28:12 PDT Cancelled: May-25-10 13:29:42 PDT Member Id: a***e( 74) Retracted: US $40,000.00 Explanation: Entered wrong amount Bid: May-26-10 07:13:45 PDT Retracted: May-26-10 07:16:14 PDT Member Id: g***a( 15) Retracted: US $50,000.00 Explanation: Entered wrong amount Bid: May-26-10 07:13:03 PDT Retracted: May-26-10 07:13:41 PDT Member Id: g***m( 6 ) Retracted: US $24,000.00 Explanation: Entered wrong amount Bid: May-26-10 07:06:34 PDT Retracted: May-26-10 07:42:43 PDT Member Id: o***n( 335) Retracted: US $900,000.00 Explanation: Entered wrong amount Bid: May-21-10 17:29:28 PDT Retracted: May-21-10 17:31:37 PDT Member Id: o***m( 0 ) Retracted: US $9,200.00 Explanation: Entered wrong amount Bid: May-23-10 04:44:48 PDT Retracted: May-23-10 06:10:21 PDT Member Id: c***o( 15) Cancelled: US $16,495.98 Explanation: Administrative Cancellation/ Please email to get approved Bid: May-25-10 19:09:14 PDT Cancelled: May-25-10 19:10:24 PDT Member Id: c***o( 15) Cancelled: US $16,495.98 Explanation: Administrative Cancellation/ Please email to get approved Bid: May-25-10 19:34:33 PDT Cancelled: May-25-10 21:21:48 PDT Member Id: w****( 9 ) Cancelled: US $13,967.26 Explanation: Administrative Cancellation/ Please email to get approved Bid: May-25-10 17:45:44 PDT Cancelled: May-25-10 18:03:29 PDT Member Id: o***d( 4 ) Cancelled: US $10,490.00 Explanation: Administrative Cancellation Bid: May-24-10 11:17:43 PDT Cancelled: May-24-10 11:20:00 PDT Member Id: s***4( 0 ) Cancelled: US $12,000.00 Explanation: No 0 feedback bidders allowed Bid: May-25-10 05:26:24 PDT Cancelled: May-25-10 06:38:59 PDT Member Id: s***a( 2 ) Retracted: US $11,400.00 Explanation: Entered wrong amount Bid: May-25-10 14:26:19 PDT Retracted: May-25-10 14:27:45 PDT Member Id: b***i( 0 ) Cancelled: US $3,333.00 Explanation: Sorry no 0 feedback bidders on this item Bid: May-19-10 19:38:37 PDT Cancelled: May-19-10 19:40:28 PDT Member Id: n***b( 0 ) Not a registered user Cancelled: US $9,000.00 Explanation: No 0 feedback bidders allowed Bid: May-20-10 16:21:47 PDT Cancelled: May-20-10 16:23:44 PDT Member Id: 9***2( 0 ) Cancelled: US $11,000.00 Explanation: No 0 feedback bidders allowed Bid: May-23-10 22:55:29 PDT Cancelled: May-23-10 22:57:15 PDT Member Id: e***e( 0 ) Cancelled: US $11,400.00 Explanation: No 0 Feedback Bidders Allowed Bid: May-25-10 14:41:14 PDT Cancelled: May-25-10 14:57:13 PDT
I am actively buying MIKE SCHMIDT gem mint baseball cards. Also looking for any 19th century cabinets of Philadephia Nationals. Please PM with additional details.
Exactly! Built into that price is the idea that he is the greatest and most popular pitcher of all time by a longshot and even then the price should not maintain because it's a 2010 card. . >>
How do you know what it, and what isn't, 'built into the price of the card'? The only people who know this are the people who are the 1st and 2nd highest bidders. For all you (or I) know one of the high bidders is Strasburg himself, who's bidding on it just to have his own most valuable rookie card. You can speculate on what's 'built into' the price of equities based on P/E ratios, profit projections and so forth, but you can't do this with rare collectibles because there's no other commodity with a market value to which you can compare.
A Van Gogh painting once sold for nine figures-- what's 'built' into that price? >>
I'll concede that. I'm making an assumption. I have no idea what's in the head of the two highest bidders or the potential outbidders. I would assume what's built into that price is perceived present and future value, desire to own it and liquidity. But definitely could be more going on than that. Would be very interested to hear what the main players were thinking when the dust settles.
Exactly! Built into that price is the idea that he is the greatest and most popular pitcher of all time by a longshot and even then the price should not maintain because it's a 2010 card. . >>
How do you know what it, and what isn't, 'built into the price of the card'? The only people who know this are the people who are the 1st and 2nd highest bidders. For all you (or I) know one of the high bidders is Strasburg himself, who's bidding on it just to have his own most valuable rookie card. You can speculate on what's 'built into' the price of equities based on P/E ratios, profit projections and so forth, but you can't do this with rare collectibles because there's no other commodity with a market value to which you can compare.
A Van Gogh painting once sold for nine figures-- what's 'built' into that price? >>
I'll concede that. I'm making an assumption. I have no idea what's in the head of the two highest bidders or the potential outbidders. I would assume what's built into that price is perceived present and future value, desire to own it and liquidity. But definitely could be more going on than that. Would be very interested to hear what the main players were thinking when the dust settles. >>
The best guess is that the winner will be someone who's net worth exceeds the total net worth of just about every board member here combined, and who is willing to kick out five figures for an enormously expensive lottery ticket. What are the odds that Strasburg goes on to have a career that's better than, say, Seaver or Ryan? Maybe around 1%, or slightly less? And if that 100-1 shot comes in, what could this card be worth in 30 years? Would $150K be unreasonable?
Is it a bad 'investment'? I'd say yes-- and I'll bet even the high bidder would say yes. But this card would be a BLAST to own, if only because you would have a definite rooting interest in every start Strasburg every makes for the rest of his career, and for some people that kind of entertainment is worth $20K. In fact, from a pure entertainment perspective this card would probably be more fun to own than a PSA 7 Mantle RC, or whatever, and as people on these board never tire of reminding us, 'fun' is what this hobby is supposed to be all about.
Lebron cards brought 20k plus, so I'm not sure why it's such a shock for the most hyped baseball prospect ever to bring similar money. Do most prospects tank? Yeah, but some make it too. Arod was the last baseball prospect that even sniffed this kind of hype while still in the minors and he hasn't done so bad for himself.
Obviously the card won't hold its value no matter what happens, but anybody who's been in the hobby more than 5 years knows this. It's hardly worth even mentioning (because it's so apparent), let alone proclaiming it loudly like you have some kind of wisdom that needs to be shared with everybody.
<< <i>Lebron cards brought 20k plus, so I'm not sure why it's such a shock for the most hyped baseball prospect ever to bring similar money. Do most prospects tank? Yeah, but some make it too. Arod was the last baseball prospect that even sniffed this kind of hype while still in the minors and he hasn't done so bad for himself.
Obviously the card won't hold its value no matter what happens, but anybody who's been in the hobby more than 5 years knows this. It's hardly worth even mentioning (because it's so apparent), let alone proclaiming it loudly like you have some kind of wisdom that needs to be shared with everybody. >>
<< <i>Lebron cards brought 20k plus, so I'm not sure why it's such a shock for the most hyped baseball prospect ever to bring similar money. Do most prospects tank? Yeah, but some make it too. Arod was the last baseball prospect that even sniffed this kind of hype while still in the minors and he hasn't done so bad for himself.
Obviously the card won't hold its value no matter what happens, but anybody who's been in the hobby more than 5 years knows this. It's hardly worth even mentioning (because it's so apparent), let alone proclaiming it loudly like you have some kind of wisdom that needs to be shared with everybody. >>
Let's also be sure to remind everyone of all the different mass-produced vintage cards this money could buy, since I'm sure nobody on these boards understands that money used to buy a Strasburg RC could also be used to buy something else.
I think the card is an ugly piece of crap. That being said, if someone that has a net worth of $10,000,000 spends $20k on the card, and I have a net worth of $100k, isn't it the same as me spending $200 on a card? Do people with $100k net worth spend $200 on questionable cards? All the time. 1980's PSA 10 commons have sold for that kind of money. So, if a big hitter drops big coin on this artificially rare turd, then let them do so. Whatever they gain or lose is probably of no consequence to them (and ultimately to me).
If we stick to stories that are appearing on Yahoo, maybe Eddy Curry is the high bidder. If he wins, he could just stiff his various relatives for a month.
"However, Curry argues that he shouldn't have to pay off that debt, because he's spending too much money in other places. According to reports filed in the suit Curry's outgoing payments include:
• $30,000 a month for "household expenses."
• $17,000 a month to various relatives including his parents, sister and father-in-law.
• More than $1,000 a month for cable and satellite television.
• $207,000 a month in garnished wages that haven't been elaborated upon, but adds up to almost $2.5 million that Eddy Curry never sees over the course of a year.
<< <i>Who's Steven Strasburg? Sorry I don't follow Baseball anymore. Has he won like the last three Cy Youngs or had a bunch of 25 win seasons? Truly, I never heard of this player. Anyone care to post his major league totals so I can judge his talent?
Good for the seller. I hope he makes a mint on this modern card too. >>
Clearly you don't follow baseball if you've never heard of Strasburg. However, even then it would be awfully tough to miss him as he was all over SportsCenter around the time of the draft last June. He's, by far, the most-hyped (AND most-talented) pitching prospect of the last 30+ years. He's got unbelievable stuff and has absolutely killed the competition at every level at which he has played.
Barring injury - and that's obviously a big IF - he'll be a superstar in the majors.
<< <i>if someone that has a net worth of $10,000,000 spends $20k on the card, and I have a net worth of $100k, isn't it the same as me spending $200 on a card? Do people with $100k net worth spend $200 on questionable cards? >>
I hope you're prepared to scan and post your W-2 form here to prove this
This has got to be the biggest wast of money on a card. first of all this guy will only have about 100 diffrent so called 1of1 cards this year. the card is also centered bad. you can get a 52 topps mickey mantle PSA 5 for what this card is at. new cards like this usally do not hold there value. You could by the following cards in PSA 10 for 1/3 the price of this
<< <i>This has got to be the biggest wast of money on a card. first of all this guy will only have about 100 diffrent so called 1of1 cards this year. the card is also centered bad. you can get a 52 topps mickey mantle PSA 5 for what this card is at. new cards like this usally do not hold there value. You could by the following cards in PSA 10 for 1/3 the price of this
Or the holiy Grail of post war cards 1952 Topps Mickey Mantle PSA 5 or 6 for what this card is at. >>
I'm thinking there's a good chance that whoever can drop 20K to win the Strasburg Super, might already have those cards listed above . . .
To each, their own. Someone wants to buy something that they can afford, why should we care? There will only be one BC rookie superfractor of Stasburg and one BC rookie Auto Strasburg superfractor to be had. Ever.
And if you think the coin spent on this is insane, wait until the Auto Superfractor from Bowman Chrome is listed.
I wouldn't ever buy it, but man would I love to sell it )
<< <i>Who's Steven Strasburg? Sorry I don't follow Baseball anymore. Has he won like the last three Cy Youngs or had a bunch of 25 win seasons? Truly, I never heard of this player. Anyone care to post his major league totals so I can judge his talent?
Good for the seller. I hope he makes a mint on this modern card too. >>
Clearly you don't follow baseball if you've never heard of Strasburg. However, even then it would be awfully tough to miss him as he was all over SportsCenter around the time of the draft last June. He's, by far, the most-hyped (AND most-talented) pitching prospect of the last 30+ years. He's got unbelievable stuff and has absolutely killed the competition at every level at which he has played.
Barring injury - and that's obviously a big IF - he'll be a superstar in the majors.
Tabe >>
Yes, like I stated above, I don't follow Baseball at all. I stopped caring in 2002 about the game. I change the channel if Baseball highlights are on ESPN. Espn blows anyway. Yeah, I missed the news on the Baseball draft too. I've never heard about this player ever, except for the threads here on CU the last few days regarding this 'rare' shiny card.
I'll predict right here this pitcher won't win as many games in his pro career as Jaime Moyer. Does anyone want to place a bet against that prediction?
The only Baseball I care to discuss or remember are pre 1980.
Also, I haven't opened a pack of Baseball cards since 1995. It's the best move I ever made in the hobby.
Wow, the judgement being rendered on the future buyer of this card is pretty laughable. In fact, this has quickly turned into the Glenn Beck of psa threads... Everyone go sell your 1/1 modern "turds" and go buy yourself some gold.
To all that criticize this "investment", heed the wisdom of Boopotts and remember that in 5 years, it will only take 2 more idiots and 1 more Ebay auction for this to sell for an even higher price.
<< <i>Who's Steven Strasburg? Sorry I don't follow Baseball anymore. Has he won like the last three Cy Youngs or had a bunch of 25 win seasons? Truly, I never heard of this player. Anyone care to post his major league totals so I can judge his talent?
Good for the seller. I hope he makes a mint on this modern card too. >>
Clearly you don't follow baseball if you've never heard of Strasburg. However, even then it would be awfully tough to miss him as he was all over SportsCenter around the time of the draft last June. He's, by far, the most-hyped (AND most-talented) pitching prospect of the last 30+ years. He's got unbelievable stuff and has absolutely killed the competition at every level at which he has played.
Barring injury - and that's obviously a big IF - he'll be a superstar in the majors.
Tabe >>
The point here isn't that the poster hasn't heard of Stephen Strasburg-- it's that he wants to make sure you know (or make you believe) that he hasn't heard of Stephen Strasburg. In the time it took him to write his post professing zero knowledge of the baseball player in question he could have Googled the name.
It's like the people who say 'What, the Stanley Cup finals are going on?' They don't ask because they want you to answer- they ask because they want to make very sure you know that they don't care about hockey.
<< <i>if someone that has a net worth of $10,000,000 spends $20k on the card, and I have a net worth of $100k, isn't it the same as me spending $200 on a card? Do people with $100k net worth spend $200 on questionable cards? >>
I hope you're prepared to scan and post your W-2 form here to prove this >>
<< <i>The point here isn't that the poster hasn't heard of Stephen Strasburg-- it's that he wants to make sure you know (or make you believe) that he hasn't heard of Stephen Strasburg. In the time it took him to write his post professing zero knowledge of the baseball player in question he could have Googled the name.
It's like the people who say 'What, the Stanley Cup finals are going on?' They don't ask because they want you to answer- they ask because they want to make very sure you know that they don't care about hockey. >>
That was my read on the situation as well. Decided to go against that read and inform about Strasburg anyway.
<< <i> To all that criticize this "investment", heed the wisdom of Boopotts and remember that in 5 years, it will only take 2 more idiots and 1 more Ebay auction for this to sell for an even higher price. >>
I agree with that. But I would be scared to death if it was my card and I had to find two idiots. I feel like everybody would wise up if I owned it.
With over 3000 watchers I'd say the odds are pretty high that it ends up going to a deadbeat bidder or to a kid messing around. Maybe the seller should, once he has a high bidder he's comfortable with, offer to end it early.
Could someone please make a list of everything else I could buy for $16k? I haven't quite got the hang of this currency thing and I need some help deciding whether this card is worth buying or not.
<< <i>Could someone please make a list of everything else I could buy for $16k? I haven't quite got the hang of this currency thing and I need some help deciding whether this card is worth buying or not. >>
I think it could by about 2,000,000 Kevin Maas RCs. How's that?
I would like everyone on this board to make very sure they know that I don't care about hockey.
'Sir, I realize it's been difficult for you to sleep at night without your EX/MT 1977 Topps Tom Seaver, but I swear to you that you'll get it safe and sound.' -CDs Nuts, 1/20/14
at least this red version 1/1 card has better centering...
I can't understand why people are paying this much for a player's RC that has yet to prove himself in the majors. People must really like to gamble with money. The odds of a profit on these are only to be made by the people who pull them in a rip. I seriously doubt the person who purchased the 1/1 super refractor will ever get their 16K back...
I kinda doubt that the person who's buying it is doing so as an "investment". He's probably doing it for bragging rights above all else.
Kinda like the set collectors who pay crazy prices for low pop PSA graded vintage commons. There's a hole in their set, and they'll plug it with as much money as it takes.
<< <i>I kinda doubt that the person who's buying it is doing so as an "investment". He's probably doing it for bragging rights above all else.
Kinda like the set collectors who pay crazy prices for low pop PSA graded vintage commons. There's a hole in their set, and they'll plug it with as much money as it takes. >>
I imagine you are correct. Some you posters are just funny.
BTW, I had never heard of this kid until this thread and still know nothing about him other then his RCs are hot.
Collecting PSA graded Steve Young, Marcus Allen, Bret Saberhagen and 1980s Topps Cards. Raw: Tony Gonzalez (low #'d cards, and especially 1/1's) and Steve Young.
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I remember guys like David Clyde from the early 1970's and Brien Taylor of Yanks in the early 90's. Suppose to be stud pitchers that never panned out. Same with Van Poppel mentioned already.
That's a lot of coin for a card of a guy that hasn't won ONE game yet in the bigs. Hopefully this guy is the real deal for the buyer of the card.
<< <i>The card will never be worth this much again unless he manages to win 400 games. Even then, I'd take the 'under' bet. >>
Exactly! Built into that price is the idea that he is the greatest and most popular pitcher of all time by a longshot and even then the price should not maintain because it's a 2010 card. When you look at the price of the most valuable and scarce cards of pitchers in existence as of today, it's probably the highest graded examples of T206 Walter Johnson and Mathewson, the highest graded examples of 55 Koufax and 68 or 75 Ryan. And then as of this week throw into the mix, this slightly off-centered raw Strasburg 1/1 card. No matter what he does, it's hard to imagine he will outdo the expectations built into the collector's mind who today would spend 15-20,000 for it. Maybe nine consecutive Cy Young awards and a handful of no-hitters in the playoffs could get an increase in value.
I dont understand why some "worry" about the buyer spending this kind of $. Obviously the person who bid $17k has enough $. It's not like they have been saving up for this. It could be like me eating Taco Bell. I buy it, eat it and it's nothing special. But to a displaced person, they savor every bite of that 1 taco. There is a crazy possibility that the bidder is not buying for an investment. They could want it to show off. " I have his 1st MLB issued 1/1 Superfractor". Another trophy on the mantle and they have to "overpay" to get it. Just like I would overpay for rare Ripkens I want.
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Exactly! Built into that price is the idea that he is the greatest and most popular pitcher of all time by a longshot and even then the price should not maintain because it's a 2010 card. . >>
How do you know what it, and what isn't, 'built into the price of the card'? The only people who know this are the people who are the 1st and 2nd highest bidders. For all you (or I) know one of the high bidders is Strasburg himself, who's bidding on it just to have his own most valuable rookie card. You can speculate on what's 'built into' the price of equities based on P/E ratios, profit projections and so forth, but you can't do this with rare collectibles because there's no other commodity with a market value to which you can compare.
A Van Gogh painting once sold for nine figures-- what's 'built' into that price?
<< <i>A Van Gogh painting once sold for nine figures-- what's 'built' into that price? >>
Free shipping, I would hope
Actually, I think Boo has a good point. I think once this card passed, say $500, there was no longer any use trying to rationalize it.
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Exactly! Built into that price is the idea that he is the greatest and most popular pitcher of all time by a longshot and even then the price should not maintain because it's a 2010 card. . >>
How do you know what it, and what isn't, 'built into the price of the card'? The only people who know this are the people who are the 1st and 2nd highest bidders. For all you (or I) know one of the high bidders is Strasburg himself, who's bidding on it just to have his own most valuable rookie card. You can speculate on what's 'built into' the price of equities based on P/E ratios, profit projections and so forth, but you can't do this with rare collectibles because there's no other commodity with a market value to which you can compare.
A Van Gogh painting once sold for nine figures-- what's 'built' into that price? >>
I'll concede that. I'm making an assumption. I have no idea what's in the head of the two highest bidders or the potential outbidders. I would assume what's built into that price is perceived present and future value, desire to own it and liquidity. But definitely could be more going on than that. Would be very interested to hear what the main players were thinking when the dust settles.
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That is funny.
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Exactly! Built into that price is the idea that he is the greatest and most popular pitcher of all time by a longshot and even then the price should not maintain because it's a 2010 card. . >>
How do you know what it, and what isn't, 'built into the price of the card'? The only people who know this are the people who are the 1st and 2nd highest bidders. For all you (or I) know one of the high bidders is Strasburg himself, who's bidding on it just to have his own most valuable rookie card. You can speculate on what's 'built into' the price of equities based on P/E ratios, profit projections and so forth, but you can't do this with rare collectibles because there's no other commodity with a market value to which you can compare.
A Van Gogh painting once sold for nine figures-- what's 'built' into that price? >>
I'll concede that. I'm making an assumption. I have no idea what's in the head of the two highest bidders or the potential outbidders. I would assume what's built into that price is perceived present and future value, desire to own it and liquidity. But definitely could be more going on than that. Would be very interested to hear what the main players were thinking when the dust settles. >>
The best guess is that the winner will be someone who's net worth exceeds the total net worth of just about every board member here combined, and who is willing to kick out five figures for an enormously expensive lottery ticket. What are the odds that Strasburg goes on to have a career that's better than, say, Seaver or Ryan? Maybe around 1%, or slightly less? And if that 100-1 shot comes in, what could this card be worth in 30 years? Would $150K be unreasonable?
Is it a bad 'investment'? I'd say yes-- and I'll bet even the high bidder would say yes. But this card would be a BLAST to own, if only because you would have a definite rooting interest in every start Strasburg every makes for the rest of his career, and for some people that kind of entertainment is worth $20K. In fact, from a pure entertainment perspective this card would probably be more fun to own than a PSA 7 Mantle RC, or whatever, and as people on these board never tire of reminding us, 'fun' is what this hobby is supposed to be all about.
Obviously the card won't hold its value no matter what happens, but anybody who's been in the hobby more than 5 years knows this. It's hardly worth even mentioning (because it's so apparent), let alone proclaiming it loudly like you have some kind of wisdom that needs to be shared with everybody.
<< <i>Lebron cards brought 20k plus, so I'm not sure why it's such a shock for the most hyped baseball prospect ever to bring similar money. Do most prospects tank? Yeah, but some make it too. Arod was the last baseball prospect that even sniffed this kind of hype while still in the minors and he hasn't done so bad for himself.
Obviously the card won't hold its value no matter what happens, but anybody who's been in the hobby more than 5 years knows this. It's hardly worth even mentioning (because it's so apparent), let alone proclaiming it loudly like you have some kind of wisdom that needs to be shared with everybody. >>
Agreed. Crazy, huh? lol
<< <i>Lebron cards brought 20k plus, so I'm not sure why it's such a shock for the most hyped baseball prospect ever to bring similar money. Do most prospects tank? Yeah, but some make it too. Arod was the last baseball prospect that even sniffed this kind of hype while still in the minors and he hasn't done so bad for himself.
Obviously the card won't hold its value no matter what happens, but anybody who's been in the hobby more than 5 years knows this. It's hardly worth even mentioning (because it's so apparent), let alone proclaiming it loudly like you have some kind of wisdom that needs to be shared with everybody. >>
Let's also be sure to remind everyone of all the different mass-produced vintage cards this money could buy, since I'm sure nobody on these boards understands that money used to buy a Strasburg RC could also be used to buy something else.
"However, Curry argues that he shouldn't have to pay off that debt, because he's spending too much money in other places. According to reports filed in the suit Curry's outgoing payments include:
• $30,000 a month for "household expenses."
• $17,000 a month to various relatives including his parents, sister and father-in-law.
• More than $1,000 a month for cable and satellite television.
• $207,000 a month in garnished wages that haven't been elaborated upon, but adds up to almost $2.5 million that Eddy Curry never sees over the course of a year.
• $350,000 to Juwan Howard(notes). (What?) "
<< <i>Who's Steven Strasburg? Sorry I don't follow Baseball anymore.
Has he won like the last three Cy Youngs or had a bunch of 25 win seasons? Truly, I never heard of this player. Anyone care to post his major league totals so I can judge his talent?
Good for the seller. I hope he makes a mint on this modern card too. >>
Clearly you don't follow baseball if you've never heard of Strasburg. However, even then it would be awfully tough to miss him as he was all over SportsCenter around the time of the draft last June. He's, by far, the most-hyped (AND most-talented) pitching prospect of the last 30+ years. He's got unbelievable stuff and has absolutely killed the competition at every level at which he has played.
Barring injury - and that's obviously a big IF - he'll be a superstar in the majors.
Tabe
<< <i>if someone that has a net worth of $10,000,000 spends $20k on the card, and I have a net worth of $100k, isn't it the same as me spending $200 on a card? Do people with $100k net worth spend $200 on questionable cards? >>
I hope you're prepared to scan and post your W-2 form here to prove this
Steve
now, back to the auction...
Looking for 1970 MLB Photostamps
- uncut
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1986 Fleer Jordan PSA 10
2001 Bowman Chrome Pujols PSA 10
1979 OPC Gretzky PSA 9
Or the holiy Grail of post war cards
1952 Topps Mickey Mantle PSA 5 or 6 for what this card is at.
<< <i>This has got to be the biggest wast of money on a card. first of all this guy will only have about 100 diffrent so called 1of1 cards this year. the card is also centered bad. you can get a 52 topps mickey mantle PSA 5 for what this card is at. new cards like this usally do not hold there value. You could by the following cards in PSA 10 for 1/3 the price of this
1986 Fleer Jordan PSA 10
2001 Bowman Chrome Pujols PSA 10
1979 OPC Gretzky PSA 9
Or the holiy Grail of post war cards
1952 Topps Mickey Mantle PSA 5 or 6 for what this card is at. >>
I'm thinking there's a good chance that whoever can drop 20K to win the Strasburg Super, might already have those cards listed above . . .
To each, their own. Someone wants to buy something that they can afford, why should we care? There will only be one BC rookie superfractor of Stasburg and one BC rookie Auto Strasburg superfractor to be had. Ever.
And if you think the coin spent on this is insane, wait until the Auto Superfractor from Bowman Chrome is listed.
I wouldn't ever buy it, but man would I love to sell it )
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<< <i>Who's Steven Strasburg? Sorry I don't follow Baseball anymore.
Has he won like the last three Cy Youngs or had a bunch of 25 win seasons? Truly, I never heard of this player. Anyone care to post his major league totals so I can judge his talent?
Good for the seller. I hope he makes a mint on this modern card too. >>
Clearly you don't follow baseball if you've never heard of Strasburg. However, even then it would be awfully tough to miss him as he was all over SportsCenter around the time of the draft last June. He's, by far, the most-hyped (AND most-talented) pitching prospect of the last 30+ years. He's got unbelievable stuff and has absolutely killed the competition at every level at which he has played.
Barring injury - and that's obviously a big IF - he'll be a superstar in the majors.
Tabe >>
Yes, like I stated above, I don't follow Baseball at all. I stopped caring in 2002 about the game. I change the channel if Baseball highlights are on ESPN. Espn blows anyway. Yeah, I missed the news on the Baseball draft too. I've never heard about this player ever, except for the threads here on CU the last few days regarding this 'rare' shiny card.
I'll predict right here this pitcher won't win as many games in his pro career as Jaime Moyer. Does anyone want to place a bet against that prediction?
The only Baseball I care to discuss or remember are pre 1980.
Also, I haven't opened a pack of Baseball cards since 1995.
It's the best move I ever made in the hobby.
To all that criticize this "investment", heed the wisdom of Boopotts and remember that in 5 years, it will only take 2 more idiots and 1 more Ebay auction for this to sell for an even higher price.
Always buying Bobby Cox inserts. PM me.
only 1 guy can own this card.
Thousands can own an overrated 2nd year Double Printed high number Mantle card....
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<< <i>Who's Steven Strasburg? Sorry I don't follow Baseball anymore.
Has he won like the last three Cy Youngs or had a bunch of 25 win seasons? Truly, I never heard of this player. Anyone care to post his major league totals so I can judge his talent?
Good for the seller. I hope he makes a mint on this modern card too. >>
Clearly you don't follow baseball if you've never heard of Strasburg. However, even then it would be awfully tough to miss him as he was all over SportsCenter around the time of the draft last June. He's, by far, the most-hyped (AND most-talented) pitching prospect of the last 30+ years. He's got unbelievable stuff and has absolutely killed the competition at every level at which he has played.
Barring injury - and that's obviously a big IF - he'll be a superstar in the majors.
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The point here isn't that the poster hasn't heard of Stephen Strasburg-- it's that he wants to make sure you know (or make you believe) that he hasn't heard of Stephen Strasburg. In the time it took him to write his post professing zero knowledge of the baseball player in question he could have Googled the name.
It's like the people who say 'What, the Stanley Cup finals are going on?' They don't ask because they want you to answer- they ask because they want to make very sure you know that they don't care about hockey.
So all the conspiracy nutjobs can relax.
Just kidding btw, but I believe him and I do think he had no alterior motive.
He is a football guy.
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<< <i>if someone that has a net worth of $10,000,000 spends $20k on the card, and I have a net worth of $100k, isn't it the same as me spending $200 on a card? Do people with $100k net worth spend $200 on questionable cards? >>
I hope you're prepared to scan and post your W-2 form here to prove this >>
what do you want him to prove, exactly?
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<< <i>The point here isn't that the poster hasn't heard of Stephen Strasburg-- it's that he wants to make sure you know (or make you believe) that he hasn't heard of Stephen Strasburg. In the time it took him to write his post professing zero knowledge of the baseball player in question he could have Googled the name.
It's like the people who say 'What, the Stanley Cup finals are going on?' They don't ask because they want you to answer- they ask because they want to make very sure you know that they don't care about hockey. >>
That was my read on the situation as well. Decided to go against that read and inform about Strasburg anyway.
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<< <i> To all that criticize this "investment", heed the wisdom of Boopotts and remember that in 5 years, it will only take 2 more idiots and 1 more Ebay auction for this to sell for an even higher price. >>
I agree with that. But I would be scared to death if it was my card and I had to find two idiots. I feel like everybody would wise up if I owned it.
Maybe the seller should, once he has a high bidder he's comfortable with, offer to end it early.
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<< <i>Could someone please make a list of everything else I could buy for $16k? I haven't quite got the hang of this currency thing and I need some help deciding whether this card is worth buying or not. >>
I think it could by about 2,000,000 Kevin Maas RCs. How's that?
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<< <i>I could think of how many starving children $16,000+ would feed. >>
And you could say the same thing about every penny spent on anything that isn't a necessity in this world.
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at least this red version 1/1 card has better centering...
I can't understand why people are paying this much for a player's RC that has yet to prove himself in the majors. People must really like to gamble with money. The odds of a profit on these are only to be made by the people who pull them in a rip. I seriously doubt the person who purchased the 1/1 super refractor will ever get their 16K back...
Kinda like the set collectors who pay crazy prices for low pop PSA graded vintage commons. There's a hole in their set, and they'll plug it with as much money as it takes.
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<< <i>I kinda doubt that the person who's buying it is doing so as an "investment". He's probably doing it for bragging rights above all else.
Kinda like the set collectors who pay crazy prices for low pop PSA graded vintage commons. There's a hole in their set, and they'll plug it with as much money as it takes. >>
I imagine you are correct. Some you posters are just funny.
BTW, I had never heard of this kid until this thread and still know nothing about him other then his RCs are hot.
Raw: Tony Gonzalez (low #'d cards, and especially 1/1's) and Steve Young.
<< <i>I had never heard of this kid until this thread and still know nothing about him other then his RCs are hot. >>
same here I had no idea this kid even existed until I open this thread...