Recently I saw a really good deal on a complete set, The normal price is around $250, but this guy had it listed for $139 plus $80 shipping. Now, I know darn well that for $80 he could have delivered the set in person from anywhere within 500 miles of me. But the final price was $219. I thought about it and finally pulled the trigger. When I received the package it cost the seller $11.80. Did I neg him? Nope. I knew what the shipping price was when I bid and I made that deal fair and square. If the price had been significantly higher with the high shipping I wouldn't have bought. What do I care how the $219 got divided? It was a $31 discount for me. That's all I care. If I see a card that I feel is a $20 value with shipping, and there is a BIN for $13 and $5 shipping, why should I care how the money gets split up? It's still $18 and I still saved 10%. Bottom line - I agree with Bobby and the OP. If you don't like the terms, don't make the deal.
<< <i>This thread never ceases to amaze me!! ......If I charged a buyer $4 to ship a card, and it cost me $6 to ship it out, and the buyer dings my stars with a 1 or 2, I would be FURIOUS!!!!!
Those buyers that are thinking a graded card is only $1-$2 to ship are living in a dream world. There are so many intagibles that these people are not even accounting for in regards to shipping fees. Is a seller not allowed to recoup anything? Labels? - write it off! Bubble mailers? - recycle your old ones......I just believe this is absurd!
Most items are sold on Ebay without sales tax for pete's sake! I have NEVER dinged someones stars for shipping charges and I have paid $6 when it obviously cost less. To ding someone for charging $4 if in actuality it cost him $3+ is just ASSANINE!!!! >>
You keep trying to compare an apple to an orange. We're NOT talking about sending a $200 card with full insurance, are we? No, we're talking about sending a $5 slabbed PSA card. The cost to ship it can roughly be around $2. If I sell a card for over $100, I'll just add $5 to the BIN total and send it protected in a (free) Priority Mail box. I could add $10 and the buyer would never know.
To ding someone for charging $4 if in actuality it cost him $3+ is just ASSANINE I agree. People sell things on Ebay to make a profit! I get that, I do that and support that. Would you feel the same if you charged $5 for shipping when it should cost you $3?
And once again, someone said that the seller has thousands of sales. Then why on earth doesn't he bulk shop on supplies to lower his bottom line?
As for the Japanese steakhouse crazy example - are you operating as a business? The steakhouse has far more overhead than those who sell on Ebay from their house, thus the need for much larger profit margins and I'll bet they buy in bulk . Does it really cost $2 for a soda in a restaurant? Of course not, but either pay it and enjoy or drink water. And if the restaurant has a message board, or there's local MB's in your town for eateries, you can post your opinion of their overrated or overpriced food.
So you got a neutral, really, so what? Either learn from it and improve or get flustered, hit your "block" button and be upset. You can choose not to be upset as well.
<< <i>What about for a single $5 card in a top loader sent in a bubble mailer? >>
The price of the card itself is irrelevant....if you are seeing the shipping charge, and you agree to bid, then you are agreeing that all aspects of the auction is OK with you.....you shouldn't change the game after the fact when you knew all the rules going in.......
<< <i>What about for a single $5 card in a top loader sent in a bubble mailer? >>
The price of the card itself is irrelevant....if you are seeing the shipping charge, and you agree to bid, then you are agreeing that all aspects of the auction is OK with you.....you shouldn't change the game after the fact when you knew all the rules going in....... >>
You can agree with whatever shipping amount but have a right to disagree with how that money was spent.
<< <i>What about for a single $5 card in a top loader sent in a bubble mailer? >>
The price of the card itself is irrelevant....if you are seeing the shipping charge, and you agree to bid, then you are agreeing that all aspects of the auction is OK with you.....you shouldn't change the game after the fact when you knew all the rules going in....... >>
While I would never leave a neutral or especially a neg for something like this, you're saying basically that when you go to a ball game and pay $6 for a soda, that you don't or can't complain about it? You would never add your negative thoughts to a message board? Then why did you buy the soda? Because you wanted it, but you didn't have to be happy about the price.
Also if you are seeing the shipping charge, and you agree to bid, then you are agreeing that all aspects of the auction is OK with you. If you collect a certain player and someone is selling a rare but cheap card you really want and can never find, by no means do you have to agree with the shipping charges if they're excessive and obviously not all spent on shipping. By Ebay giving the option for the buyer to rate their transaction, the buyer can do whatever he/she wants. If the seller opens a window for an idiot to throw a rock through, who's fault is that?
Like I said, a lot of things can be learned from this thread to make improvements. If some people just want to make blanket statements or be block happy, I suppose that's their right too.
I agree the seller got shafted by the buyer, however to avoid this from happening, the seller could've slide $1 to $2 inside the mailer along with the raw card that he charged $4 to ship and write a short note saying his shipping rates were for combined shipping, here's your refund. I bet this customer would become a repeat buyer.
I've slide a buck or two inside a mailer many times with a note to let the buyer know I wasn't trying to gouge them on the shipping. Most of the time the ebay checkout doesn't work properly and if the buyers buys multiple cards and pays right away, the combined shipping doesn't happen on the invoice. So I refund inside the mailer.
On the example given, it costs exactly $1.58 + mailer ($0.12) to send ONE raw card in a padded mailer with cardboard around the top loader and with online delivery confirmation. It's under 2 oz. So $4 is a little high for one raw card imho.
And I have no problem with sellers making money on shipping. I expect them to make some money on shipping to offset their fees. That's how they stay in business and continue to list cards for sale that we can buy for our collections.
<< <i>I agree the seller got shafted by the buyer, however to avoid this from happening, the seller could've slide $1 to $2 inside the mailer along with the raw card that he charged $4 to ship and write a short note saying his shipping rates were for combined shipping, here's your refund. I bet this customer would become a repeat buyer.
I've slide a buck or two inside a mailer many times with a note to let the buyer know I wasn't trying to gouge them on the shipping. Most of the time the ebay checkout doesn't work properly and if the buyers buys multiple cards and pays right away, the combined shipping doesn't happen on the invoice. So I refund inside the mailer.
On the example given, it costs exactly $1.58 + mailer ($0.12) to send ONE raw card in a padded mailer with cardboard around the top loader and with online delivery confirmation. It's under 2 oz. So $4 is a little high for one raw card imho.
And I have no problem with sellers making money on shipping. I expect them to make some money on shipping to offset their fees. That's how they stay in business and continue to list cards for sale that we can buy for our collections. >>
Can't agree with you more, on everything you said.
I believe the $4 shipping charge is in regards to SLABBED cards...NOT raw cards....here is a link to everyones' golden boy at PSA...STEVE HART AKA BBCE!!! Here is his auction.....please make note of his shipping charge....
Am curious, and this is directed to everyone, if a seller of graded cards charges $5 but ships by USPS Priority Mail (small flat rate box), would anyone have a problem with it? I would fully expect for multiple cards to pay more, but for single cards?
USPS First Class is getting more expensive every year, so to know that your graded card is coming to you boxed and well protected, would you mind paying $5? What about $6? Remember, for a single slabbed card only.
Personally, I'd rather not pay extra for Priority mail service.
A seller can easily ship one graded card in a 400 card box with peanuts and with delivery conf. for $2.09 . Boxes cost .35 cents each. So shipping that way may cost the seller maybe $2.50 . If they charged $4, that would still give the seller a $1.50 shipping profit. The item would be well-protected and the buyer would pay less if it were sent priority mail. The first class shipping time might take one more day than using the Priority mail service. Big deal.
Of course none of the above takes into account insurance. Or if needed, signature confirmation costs on items over $250 in value.
I really think some sellers just don't want to buy bulk shipping supplies, either cheap mailers or 300-400 ct boxes. So they use the free priority mail boxes with the higher costs instead.
Here's the weights (roughly) and costs for shipping first class USPS with d/c for PSA graded card(s) in a 400 ct. box with peanuts and a piece of bubble wrap around the cards :
As you can see, it's not that costly. Again the above is without insurance being added into the mix.
To me, this is the way sellers should ship on ebay. It keeps the shipping costs down for the buyer. The seller will not have to worry about the cards getting damaged in the mail or their DSR's from getting drilled on the shipping+handling.
Padded mailer shipping is even cheaper, but I find most sellers don't know how to package cards in mailers. They simply throw the PSA card in the mailer and drop it in the mail.
I've had two cards valued over $500 cards shipped this way to me that got totally destroyed in handling. All due to poor packaging.
Bottom line is if the seller wants $105.00 to ship one card and he tells me so up front, I should not give him a bad mark because I paid what I agreed to pay!
Another assanine comment.....The great STEVE HART can charge $5 to ship a paper clip, but I BETTER ship the EXACT SAME PAPER CLIP for FREE, or either submit an itemzied list of how much my EXACT shipping costs involved is, and not go ONE PENNY OVER or else I am gonna get DINGED!!! Do you realize how backward thinking that is ??
<< <i>Another assanine comment.....The great STEVE HART can charge $5 to ship a paper clip, but I BETTER ship the EXACT SAME PAPER CLIP for FREE, or either submit an itemzied list of how much my EXACT shipping costs involved is, and not go ONE PENNY OVER or else I am gonna get DINGED!!! Do you realize how backward thinking that is ?? >>
Simple fix: $2.50-$3 for raw cards and $3.50-$4 for slabbed. Problem solved. $4 for one single raw card is awfully high. I would never ding a seller after agreeing on a price, but I can see how more uneducated buyers could find a way to warrant a neg/neut. Don't give them the opportunity.
This is what one ebay Powerseller has put in all of his auctions:
The DSR Ratings are the 5 star ratings in my feedback profile. Most people think this 5 tiered rating is very similar to the typical school type grading system where 5 stars would be an “A” grade and 4 stars would be a “B” grade and so on. Ebay’s DSR grading system is not anything like the school grading system. A seller will get suspended for a total rating of 4.3 or less regardless of their feedback. This means that a rating of 4 stars is basically a failing grade and giving a 4 star rating will get a seller suspended and it only takes a very few 4 Star ratings to get suspended. I would ask that you DO NOT use the DSR ratings as they are flawed and if you do choose to use the DSR Ratings, please leave a 5 star rating. Anything less than a 5 Star rating is a failing grade in Ebay’s Detailed Seller Grading System. Ebay doesn’t clarify the way their style of grading works (or doesn’t work) anywhere on their site, so I am clarifying it here. If you enjoy my Ebay auctions, please adhere to the above recommendations…as if I continually get suspended I will no longer be able to sell my products on Ebay. 100% positive feedback is no longer acceptable to Ebay. It’s all about the stars…when you click 4 as “reasonable” for shipping costs, it can get the seller suspended. It makes about zero sense, but as the Ebay PowerSeller person told me after I was suspended “It is What It Is”. So please, if you think that my shipping charges aren’t in your best interests or aren’t 5 STAR worthy. Please DO NOT BID. Please address any issues that you may have before leaving feedback so we can work out any issues that happen in rare instances.
<< <i>When I hear talk of Steve Hart like God I want to throw up. >>
LMAO!!!! I thought I was the only one who felt that way! Why don't he go ahead and charge $1,000 for that 1959 Topps Mantle PSA 5. Pretty soon, all the followers will run out of money, and then we can get back down to business as usual......
One of my all-time favorite baseball quotes was when Gary Templeton, upon learning that he wasn't going to be voted as the starting SS in the All Star game, stated:
"If I' ain't startin', I ain't departin'.."
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
<< <i>If the guy receives the package in the mail and sees that you paid the post office less than $4 for shipping, you're more apt to get neutral feedback.
Ebay will not allow the buyer to simply ding stars and leave a positive feedback as they believe that by lowering the stars the buyer should get a neutral/neg. Ebay may remove that feedback altogether.
I would suggest buying labels and printing your postage online at home (I use paypal, very very easy) that way the buyer will not see how much you actually paid the post office. >>
My guess is you do not sell on eBay.
Collecting PSA graded Steve Young, Marcus Allen, Bret Saberhagen and 1980s Topps Cards. Raw: Tony Gonzalez (low #'d cards, and especially 1/1's) and Steve Young.
<< <i>"...<< Ebay will not allow the buyer to simply ding stars and leave a positive feedback as they believe that by lowering the stars the buyer should get a neutral/neg. Ebay may remove that feedback altogether. >>
Manipulating another member’s detailed seller ratings (DSRs) through a combination of repeat purchases and low DSRs to reduce another user’s Feedback scores, or showing a pattern of leaving positive Feedback with consistently low DSRs.
Note, ebay does allow you to ding stars and leave a positive. It does not allow you to do it repeatedly to the same person. To make a pattern. Well, it does allow that actually...but they might do something if shown.
I know I have all positive but one neutral, and over 12 1 and 2's in each catagory....including shipping which I do not charge.
Collecting PSA graded Steve Young, Marcus Allen, Bret Saberhagen and 1980s Topps Cards. Raw: Tony Gonzalez (low #'d cards, and especially 1/1's) and Steve Young.
$4.00 shipping is way to much to pay. Yes, you can spend $4.00 on shipping costs (actually you can spend $600.00 if you wanted) but a buyer does not want to pay an unreasonable amount for shipping even if the entirety of the amount is used. I mail in a bubble mailer and send it first class with delivery confirmation. The total costs (including paper, ink, tape, etc.) is $2.25 (give or take $.15) I understand that shipping is a great way to make an extra buck on a card but eventually we will all get burned, whether it is from our DSR rating or feedback excessive shipping costs will always come back to bite us. I use "us" because I myself charge $3.50 for a graded card even after I precisely calculated my costs. Does this make me a bad person? No, but do I now run the risk of a low DSR or possibly a neg? Yes. As a buyer I hate paying more then $3.00 to have a card shipped to me and if I have to pay more then $4.00 I will leave 4 or less stars.
<< <i>"...<< Ebay will not allow the buyer to simply ding stars and leave a positive feedback as they believe that by lowering the stars the buyer should get a neutral/neg. Ebay may remove that feedback altogether. >>
Manipulating another member’s detailed seller ratings (DSRs) through a combination of repeat purchases and low DSRs to reduce another user’s Feedback scores, or showing a pattern of leaving positive Feedback with consistently low DSRs.
Note, ebay does allow you to ding stars and leave a positive. It does not allow you to do it repeatedly to the same person. To make a pattern. Well, it does allow that actually...but they might do something if shown.
I know I have all positive but one neutral, and over 12 1 and 2's in each catagory....including shipping which I do not charge. >>
I sell a lot on eBay.
With respect to the star dinging, my experience is where I bought one item from one seller and dinged his DSR and was called out by eBay for "feedback manipulation" - do a search for it on the message board. The eBay representative said it does not matter if it is repeat or not.
"...With respect to the star dinging, my experience is where I bought one item from one seller and dinged his DSR and was called out by eBay for "feedback manipulation" - do a search for it on the message board. The eBay representative said it does not matter if it is repeat or not. ..."
////////////////////////////////////////////
That is the general practice, regardless of the "showing a pattern" lingo.
The offended seller must complain, tho; and, make his case to the CS-monkey.
Folks Who Bite Get Bitten. Folks Who Don't Bite Get Eaten.
<< <i>$4.00 shipping is way to much to pay. Yes, you can spend $4.00 on shipping costs (actually you can spend $600.00 if you wanted) but a buyer does not want to pay an unreasonable amount for shipping even if the entirety of the amount is used. I mail in a bubble mailer and send it first class with delivery confirmation. The total costs (including paper, ink, tape, etc.) is $2.25 (give or take $.15) I understand that shipping is a great way to make an extra buck on a card but eventually we will all get burned, whether it is from our DSR rating or feedback excessive shipping costs will always come back to bite us. I use "us" because I myself charge $3.50 for a graded card even after I precisely calculated my costs. Does this make me a bad person? No, but do I now run the risk of a low DSR or possibly a neg? Yes. As a buyer I hate paying more then $3.00 to have a card shipped to me and if I have to pay more then $4.00 I will leave 4 or less stars. >>
Wow, a seller/buyer who actually understands both sides of the argument.
Notice he did not attempt to charge any money specifically for his "gas and time"
I respect you, buy why are you charging $3.50, to recoup ebay/paypal fees? Why not charge exact shipping? buyers would be willing to bid higher.
I respect you, buy why are you charging $3.50, to recoup ebay/paypal fees? Why not charge exact shipping? buyers would be willing to bid higher.
Untrue. While the hammer price on auctions with grossly inflated shipping charges will be lower, I have found absolutely no difference in prices for auctions with $2, $3, $ or $5 shipping charges. Most buyers (not all, but most) are not so anal or tightwadded that a couple bucks is going to alter their bids or snipes.
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
Well, if you want to over inflate s/h charges, be well aware that your DSRs may suffer. That is the bottom line!
When I am a seller(not that often), I charge the exact rate that the USPS charges. (all other BS charges are incurred by me and recycling)
What gives sellers the right to GOUGE buyers on excessive S/H charges? (greed)
Not gas or travel, the USPS will pick up an item at your house for free.
Not top loaders or sleeves Really, c'mon, how many of these do we all have laying around that are suitable for shipping. You are going to tape the top anyways, so why use a new one?
What other reason are the overchargers using?
printer ink? I won't even argue this one. If you are charginging for ink I feel VERY SORRY for you!
Whats left?
ACTUAL SHIPPING COST, there is ZERO need for a "handling" cost!
Comments
<< <i>100 >>
That is so 2008.
<< <i>This thread never ceases to amaze me!! ......If I charged a buyer $4 to ship a card, and it cost me $6 to ship it out, and the buyer dings my stars with a 1 or 2, I would be FURIOUS!!!!!
Those buyers that are thinking a graded card is only $1-$2 to ship are living in a dream world. There are so many intagibles that these people are not even accounting for in regards to shipping fees. Is a seller not allowed to recoup anything? Labels? - write it off! Bubble mailers? - recycle your old ones......I just believe this is absurd!
Most items are sold on Ebay without sales tax for pete's sake! I have NEVER dinged someones stars for shipping charges and I have paid $6 when it obviously cost less. To ding someone for charging $4 if in actuality it cost him $3+ is just ASSANINE!!!! >>
You keep trying to compare an apple to an orange. We're NOT talking about sending a $200 card with full insurance, are we? No, we're talking about sending a $5 slabbed PSA card. The cost to ship it can roughly be around $2. If I sell a card for over $100, I'll just add $5 to the BIN total and send it protected in a (free) Priority Mail box. I could add $10 and the buyer would never know.
To ding someone for charging $4 if in actuality it cost him $3+ is just ASSANINE I agree. People sell things on Ebay to make a profit! I get that, I do that and support that. Would you feel the same if you charged $5 for shipping when it should cost you $3?
And once again, someone said that the seller has thousands of sales. Then why on earth doesn't he bulk shop on supplies to lower his bottom line?
As for the Japanese steakhouse crazy example - are you operating as a business? The steakhouse has far more overhead than those who sell on Ebay from their house, thus the need for much larger profit margins and I'll bet they buy in bulk
So you got a neutral, really, so what? Either learn from it and improve or get flustered, hit your "block" button and be upset. You can choose not to be upset as well.
<< <i>anyone who dings a sellers stars for $4.00 shipping should be removed from ebay. >>
ah, but.......maybe we don't want to cage the beast, we only wish to tame it.
remember that quite often, the irrational nature of eBay buyers can lead to spectacular results.
<< <i>anyone who dings a sellers stars for $4.00 shipping should be removed from ebay. >>
What about for a single $5 card in a top loader sent in a bubble mailer?
<< <i>What about for a single $5 card in a top loader sent in a bubble mailer? >>
The price of the card itself is irrelevant....if you are seeing the shipping charge, and you agree to bid, then you are agreeing that all aspects of the auction is OK with you.....you shouldn't change the game after the fact when you knew all the rules going in.......
<< <i>
<< <i>What about for a single $5 card in a top loader sent in a bubble mailer? >>
The price of the card itself is irrelevant....if you are seeing the shipping charge, and you agree to bid, then you are agreeing that all aspects of the auction is OK with you.....you shouldn't change the game after the fact when you knew all the rules going in....... >>
You can agree with whatever shipping amount but have a right to disagree with how that money was spent.
<< <i>
<< <i>What about for a single $5 card in a top loader sent in a bubble mailer? >>
The price of the card itself is irrelevant....if you are seeing the shipping charge, and you agree to bid, then you are agreeing that all aspects of the auction is OK with you.....you shouldn't change the game after the fact when you knew all the rules going in....... >>
While I would never leave a neutral or especially a neg for something like this, you're saying basically that when you go to a ball game and pay $6 for a soda, that you don't or can't complain about it? You would never add your negative thoughts to a message board? Then why did you buy the soda? Because you wanted it, but you didn't have to be happy about the price.
Also if you are seeing the shipping charge, and you agree to bid, then you are agreeing that all aspects of the auction is OK with you. If you collect a certain player and someone is selling a rare but cheap card you really want and can never find, by no means do you have to agree with the shipping charges if they're excessive and obviously not all spent on shipping. By Ebay giving the option for the buyer to rate their transaction, the buyer can do whatever he/she wants. If the seller opens a window for an idiot to throw a rock through, who's fault is that?
Like I said, a lot of things can be learned from this thread to make improvements. If some people just want to make blanket statements or be block happy, I suppose that's their right too.
I've slide a buck or two inside a mailer many times with a note to let the buyer know I wasn't trying to gouge them on the shipping. Most of the time the ebay checkout doesn't work properly and if the buyers buys multiple cards and pays right away, the combined shipping doesn't happen on the invoice. So I refund inside the mailer.
On the example given, it costs exactly $1.58 + mailer ($0.12) to send ONE raw card in a padded mailer with cardboard around the top loader and with online delivery confirmation. It's under 2 oz. So $4 is a little high for one raw card imho.
And I have no problem with sellers making money on shipping. I expect them to make some money on shipping to offset their fees. That's how they stay in business and continue to list cards for sale that we can buy for our collections.
<< <i>I agree the seller got shafted by the buyer, however to avoid this from happening, the seller could've slide $1 to $2 inside the mailer along with the raw card that he charged $4 to ship and write a short note saying his shipping rates were for combined shipping, here's your refund. I bet this customer would become a repeat buyer.
I've slide a buck or two inside a mailer many times with a note to let the buyer know I wasn't trying to gouge them on the shipping. Most of the time the ebay checkout doesn't work properly and if the buyers buys multiple cards and pays right away, the combined shipping doesn't happen on the invoice. So I refund inside the mailer.
On the example given, it costs exactly $1.58 + mailer ($0.12) to send ONE raw card in a padded mailer with cardboard around the top loader and with online delivery confirmation. It's under 2 oz. So $4 is a little high for one raw card imho.
And I have no problem with sellers making money on shipping. I expect them to make some money on shipping to offset their fees. That's how they stay in business and continue to list cards for sale that we can buy for our collections. >>
Can't agree with you more, on everything you said.
Steve Hart
All these people that think it is only $2 to ship a slabbed card are living in a dream world!
The above example was for "ONE raw card", not a slabbed. Big words getting to you again?
Lastly, if you shipping a single SLABBED PSA card in a bubble mailer for $3, you wouldn't have a neutral.
I'll close the window now.
USPS First Class is getting more expensive every year, so to know that your graded card is coming to you boxed and well protected, would you mind paying $5? What about $6? Remember, for a single slabbed card only.
$5 for boxed-Priority would be fine, but the retail-counter price is closer to $6 with DC and w/o insurance.
<< <i>$5 for boxed-Priority would be fine, but the retail-counter price is closer to $6 with DC and w/o insurance. >>
But $4.85 via online. If anyone is moving quantities, I'd assume they would go through Paypal to ship.
A seller can easily ship one graded card in a 400 card box with peanuts and with delivery conf. for $2.09 . Boxes cost .35 cents each. So shipping that way may cost the seller maybe $2.50 . If they charged $4, that would still give the seller a $1.50 shipping profit. The item would be well-protected and the buyer would pay less if it were sent priority mail. The first class shipping time might take one more day than using the Priority mail service. Big deal.
Of course none of the above takes into account insurance. Or if needed, signature confirmation costs on items over $250 in value.
I really think some sellers just don't want to buy bulk shipping supplies, either cheap mailers or 300-400 ct boxes. So they use the free priority mail boxes with the higher costs instead.
Here's the weights (roughly) and costs for shipping first class USPS with d/c for PSA graded card(s) in a 400 ct. box with peanuts and a piece of bubble wrap around the cards :
1 card...... 4.3 oz. .......$2.09
2 cards..... 5.6 ............. 2.26
3 cards.......7.0..............2.43
4 cards.......8.6..............2.77
5 cards.......10.1............3.11
As you can see, it's not that costly. Again the above is without insurance being added into the mix.
To me, this is the way sellers should ship on ebay. It keeps the
shipping costs down for the buyer. The seller will not have to worry about the cards getting damaged in the mail or their DSR's from getting drilled on the shipping+handling.
Padded mailer shipping is even cheaper, but I find most sellers don't know how to package cards in mailers. They simply throw the PSA card in the mailer and drop it in the mail.
I've had two cards valued over $500 cards shipped this way to me that got totally destroyed in handling. All due to poor packaging.
*edited for spelling.
<< <i>there you have it then! I guess myself charging $4 for a graded card is not enough....maybe I should up my charge to $5 as well........ >>
no, I said I would pay Steve Hart $5+ to ship a graded card...in fact if he told me he needed $5 to ship a paper clip I wouldn't complain.
Steve
<< <i>Another assanine comment.....The great STEVE HART can charge $5 to ship a paper clip, but I BETTER ship the EXACT SAME PAPER CLIP for FREE, or either submit an itemzied list of how much my EXACT shipping costs involved is, and not go ONE PENNY OVER or else I am gonna get DINGED!!! Do you realize how backward thinking that is ?? >>
You, sir, are no Steve Hart!
By the way, it's spelled "asinine".
Didn't want you to appear asinine (or assanine) heh
http://www.unisquare.com/store/brick/
Ralph
The DSR Ratings are the 5 star ratings in my feedback profile. Most people think this 5 tiered rating is very similar to the typical school type grading system where 5 stars would be an “A” grade and 4 stars would be a “B” grade and so on. Ebay’s DSR grading system is not anything like the school grading system. A seller will get suspended for a total rating of 4.3 or less regardless of their feedback. This means that a rating of 4 stars is basically a failing grade and giving a 4 star rating will get a seller suspended and it only takes a very few 4 Star ratings to get suspended. I would ask that you DO NOT use the DSR ratings as they are flawed and if you do choose to use the DSR Ratings, please leave a 5 star rating. Anything less than a 5 Star rating is a failing grade in Ebay’s Detailed Seller Grading System. Ebay doesn’t clarify the way their style of grading works (or doesn’t work) anywhere on their site, so I am clarifying it here. If you enjoy my Ebay auctions, please adhere to the above recommendations…as if I continually get suspended I will no longer be able to sell my products on Ebay. 100% positive feedback is no longer acceptable to Ebay. It’s all about the stars…when you click 4 as “reasonable” for shipping costs, it can get the seller suspended. It makes about zero sense, but as the Ebay PowerSeller person told me after I was suspended “It is What It Is”. So please, if you think that my shipping charges aren’t in your best interests or aren’t 5 STAR worthy. Please DO NOT BID. Please address any issues that you may have before leaving feedback so we can work out any issues that happen in rare instances.
Lou Gehrig Master Set
Non-Registry Collection
Game Used Cards Collection
<< <i>You know it's been a long day when the 5th inning rolls around and the grounds crew goes out and drags the warning track. >>
You must be a fellow Cleveland Indians fan...
<< <i>
<< <i>You know it's been a long day when the 5th inning rolls around and the grounds crew goes out and drags the warning track. >>
You must be a fellow Cleveland Indians fan... >>
Actually, I believe the quote is credited to former Orioles pitcher Mike Flanagan.
<< <i>When I hear talk of Steve Hart like God I want to throw up. >>
LMAO!!!! I thought I was the only one who felt that way! Why don't he go ahead and charge $1,000 for that 1959 Topps Mantle PSA 5. Pretty soon, all the followers will run out of money, and then we can get back down to business as usual......
"If I' ain't startin', I ain't departin'.."
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
<< <i>If the guy receives the package in the mail and sees that you paid the post office less than $4 for shipping, you're more apt to get neutral feedback.
Ebay will not allow the buyer to simply ding stars and leave a positive feedback as they believe that by lowering the stars the buyer should get a neutral/neg. Ebay may remove that feedback altogether.
I would suggest buying labels and printing your postage online at home (I use paypal, very very easy) that way the buyer will not see how much you actually paid the post office. >>
My guess is you do not sell on eBay.
Raw: Tony Gonzalez (low #'d cards, and especially 1/1's) and Steve Young.
<< <i>"...<< Ebay will not allow the buyer to simply ding stars and leave a positive feedback as they believe that by lowering the stars the buyer should get a neutral/neg. Ebay may remove that feedback altogether. >>
Got a link to that policy?...."
////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
Not Allowed...
Manipulating another member’s detailed seller ratings (DSRs) through a combination of repeat purchases and low DSRs to reduce another user’s Feedback scores, or showing a pattern of leaving positive Feedback with consistently low DSRs.
http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/feedback-manipulation.html >>
Note, ebay does allow you to ding stars and leave a positive. It does not allow you to do it repeatedly to the same person. To make a pattern. Well, it does allow that actually...but they might do something if shown.
I know I have all positive but one neutral, and over 12 1 and 2's in each catagory....including shipping which I do not charge.
Raw: Tony Gonzalez (low #'d cards, and especially 1/1's) and Steve Young.
"Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind." Dr. Seuss
<< <i>
<< <i>"...<< Ebay will not allow the buyer to simply ding stars and leave a positive feedback as they believe that by lowering the stars the buyer should get a neutral/neg. Ebay may remove that feedback altogether. >>
Got a link to that policy?...."
////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
Not Allowed...
Manipulating another member’s detailed seller ratings (DSRs) through a combination of repeat purchases and low DSRs to reduce another user’s Feedback scores, or showing a pattern of leaving positive Feedback with consistently low DSRs.
http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/feedback-manipulation.html >>
Note, ebay does allow you to ding stars and leave a positive. It does not allow you to do it repeatedly to the same person. To make a pattern. Well, it does allow that actually...but they might do something if shown.
I know I have all positive but one neutral, and over 12 1 and 2's in each catagory....including shipping which I do not charge. >>
I sell a lot on eBay.
With respect to the star dinging, my experience is where I bought one item from one seller and dinged his DSR and was called out by eBay for "feedback manipulation" - do a search for it on the message board. The eBay representative said it does not matter if it is repeat or not.
"...With respect to the star dinging, my experience is where I bought one item from one seller and dinged his DSR and was called out by eBay for "feedback manipulation" - do a search for it on the message board. The eBay representative said it does not matter if it is repeat or not. ..."
////////////////////////////////////////////
That is the general practice, regardless of the "showing a pattern" lingo.
The offended seller must complain, tho; and, make his case to the CS-monkey.
<< <i>$4.00 shipping is way to much to pay. Yes, you can spend $4.00 on shipping costs (actually you can spend $600.00 if you wanted) but a buyer does not want to pay an unreasonable amount for shipping even if the entirety of the amount is used. I mail in a bubble mailer and send it first class with delivery confirmation. The total costs (including paper, ink, tape, etc.) is $2.25 (give or take $.15) I understand that shipping is a great way to make an extra buck on a card but eventually we will all get burned, whether it is from our DSR rating or feedback excessive shipping costs will always come back to bite us. I use "us" because I myself charge $3.50 for a graded card even after I precisely calculated my costs. Does this make me a bad person? No, but do I now run the risk of a low DSR or possibly a neg? Yes. As a buyer I hate paying more then $3.00 to have a card shipped to me and if I have to pay more then $4.00 I will leave 4 or less stars. >>
Wow, a seller/buyer who actually understands both sides of the argument.
Notice he did not attempt to charge any money specifically for his "gas and time"
I respect you, buy why are you charging $3.50, to recoup ebay/paypal fees?
Why not charge exact shipping? buyers would be willing to bid higher.
Why not charge exact shipping? buyers would be willing to bid higher.
Untrue. While the hammer price on auctions with grossly inflated shipping charges will be lower, I have found absolutely no difference in prices for auctions with $2, $3, $ or $5 shipping charges. Most buyers (not all, but most) are not so anal or tightwadded that a couple bucks is going to alter their bids or snipes.
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
When I am a seller(not that often), I charge the exact rate that the USPS charges. (all other BS charges are incurred by me and recycling)
What gives sellers the right to GOUGE buyers on excessive S/H charges? (greed)
Not gas or travel,
the USPS will pick up an item at your house for free.
Not top loaders or sleeves
Really, c'mon, how many of these do we all have laying around that are suitable for shipping. You are going to tape the top anyways, so why use a new one?
What other reason are the overchargers using?
printer ink? I won't even argue this one. If you are charginging for ink I feel VERY SORRY for you!
Whats left?
ACTUAL SHIPPING COST, there is ZERO need for a "handling" cost!
now another 3-4 pages of nonsense!