1878-CC trade dollar that I picked up over the weekend.
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What's your opinion?
I suspect it won't be able to grade, but?
I suspect it won't be able to grade, but?
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mbogoman
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<< <i>My opinion is that it's counterfeit. >>
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Diameter?
bob
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<< <i>Why do folks knowingly support counterfeiters when they know it undermines the hobby-industry? >>
Why does Tom keep writing exactly what I was planning to post?
<< <i>Why do folks knowingly support counterfeiters when they know it undermines the hobby-industry? >>
<< <i>how can you tell its counterfeit ? >>
Bunch of ways but first and foremost it is the the wrong hub type as a Type1 Rev. That was not used after 1876. If you would like to see pictures of the difference and some real trade dollars click my sig line.
- Its cast and one can easily see this
- It has a Type I Obverse - impossible for this date
- It has a Type I Reverse - impossible for this date
Sorry, but its not even a good fake.
keoj
<< <i>how can you tell its counterfeit ? >>
Do you think that the different sizes of the 8's in the date might be a clue? First things
first, look at the numerals!
bob
<< <i>I still have my Singapore piece that nearly fooled the TPG's. I put it out at shows as a teaching tool. The poor definition of obverse denticles is the red flag. Weight is within tolerance, and devices are well defined.
Maybe the graders had never seen that style of shoe before?----------BigE
<< <i>I still have my Singapore piece that nearly fooled the TPG's. I put it out at shows as a teaching tool. The poor definition of obverse denticles is the red flag. Weight is within tolerance, and devices are well defined.
That is a much better then avg fake. My first glance gave off no tells. The Mint Mark is wrong and the wear pattern isn't quit right but it is one of the better fakes.
I don't have a clue as to what you're referring to. My coin clearly exhibits a bare left foot of Liberty.
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Nice fake!!! This would fool most if not all people looking at picture.
- The bad stars are a possible tell but not absolute
- The edge is poor but not out of possibility
- For a 78-CC the dexter top of wing would be a signal for me (most 78-CC's are well struck in that area)
- Four different dies were used for the 78-CC so the CC's match one die that I am aware of although I would need to research it further
This would require an in hand examination if I ever saw a coin like this.
keoj
<< <i>Coindeuce:
Nice fake!!! This would fool most if not all people looking at picture.
- The bad stars are a possible tell but not absolute
- The edge is poor but not out of possibility
- For a 78-CC the dexter top of wing would be a signal for me (most 78-CC's are well struck in that area)
- Four different dies were used for the 78-CC so the CC's match one die that I am aware of although I would need to research it further
This would require an in hand examination if I ever saw a coin like this.
keoj >>
Keoj
To my research it looks like the CC is spaced to widely and is on too flat of a plane, it should have a slight uptick unless completely to the right of the D in Dollar
<< <i>Why do folks knowingly support counterfeiters when they know it undermines the hobby-industry? >>
Actually, I'd think that people who know they are counterfeit taking them out of the market would be a good thing, so uneducated people won't get burned.
The OP's piece was probably made long, long ago.
Dwayne F. Sessom
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<< <i>Why do folks knowingly support counterfeiters when they know it undermines the hobby-industry? >>
Actually, I'd think that people who know they are counterfeit taking them out of the market would be a good thing, so uneducated people won't get burned.
The OP's piece was probably made long, long ago. >>
Dwayne, I'll bet that that coin was made in the last 6 months.....not long ago. The internet is flooded, from time to time, with this fake.
bob