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The $10,000 Question


If you were going to buy a $10,000 coin this month, what series and grade would you be looking at first?

Since my largest single coin purchase to date is around $3K, this a big decision and I prefer going with a single piece.

I appreciate your opinion.



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  • MoldnutMoldnut Posts: 3,113 ✭✭✭✭
    I would look for something in the Draped Bust series.
    Derek

    EAC 6024
  • MidLifeCrisisMidLifeCrisis Posts: 10,563 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Any response will be based on the responder's collecting preferences and areas of interest.

    For example, I would choose a pedigreed colonial rarity in XF 45 or higher.

    So I suggest you define your collecting interests and the minimum grades you are looking for, then people can give you more meaningful recommendations.
  • tradedollarnuttradedollarnut Posts: 20,236 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I would buy a really nice and PQ MS64 seated dollar.
  • ambro51ambro51 Posts: 13,953 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Ten Thousand dollars. hmmmmmmm since Im fixated on the gold dollar series, it would be one of those. Not enough money for a 61D......Im not interested in high grade commons......but Id have a right serious look at the 55D currently on ebay, XF for 6500$. Rarity trumps condition in my little book.
  • illini420illini420 Posts: 11,467 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The best 1909-O $5 I could find. Probably would be an AU55 max for that money.
  • Here is an example from the Doug Winter column posted earlier today:

    2. $5,000-10,000

    b) Affordable Uncirculated Dahlonega Half Eagles: If I had to choose the quintessential Dahlonega gold coin for the new collector, I’d select something like an 1847-D or 1853-D half eagle in properly graded MS61 to MS62. These coins are big, rare, attractive and reasonably priced at less than $10,000. What’s even more interesting about coins like this is that they are priced at essentially the same level as they were in the late 1990’s/early 2000’s. Yes, gradeflation has pushed many AU58 coins into MS61 and MS62 holders. But the popularity of Dahlonega half eagles is as high in 2010 as at any point I can remember. If you can locate a few CAC or “plus quality” Dahlonega half eagles in MS61 to MS62 at today’s levels, I’d suggest that you jump on them.

    Anybody got a lead on a $5 1847-D that's a solid MS62 for $10K?
  • Type2Type2 Posts: 13,985 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I like to look at a lot of coins so I would go to a show and see what I can find in a holder or Cherrypick some nice coins that I can get and send them in keep the high grades and sell the rest then make more $$$ to buy more and do it all over. But that is just me. image


    Hoard the keys.
  • TomBTomB Posts: 22,097 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'd know what I was looking to obtain first and then I would start to look.
    Thomas Bush Numismatics & Numismatic Photography

    In honor of the memory of Cpl. Michael E. Thompson

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  • I would buy the nicest 1793 chain cent that $10,000 could afford.
    A nickel ain't worth a dime anymore.
    Yogi Berra



  • a nice 1815 Bust Half would be my choice........


  • lkeneficlkenefic Posts: 8,614 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It depends upon what you collect. For me, the short list would be 18 Century type... 1796 Quarter... if I could locate one with no problems that cheap or the nicest looking '93 Chain Cent I could find.
    Collecting: Dansco 7070; Middle Date Large Cents (VF-AU); Box of 20;

    Successful BST transactions with: SilverEagles92; Ahrensdad; Smitty; GregHansen; Lablade; Mercury10c; copperflopper; whatsup; KISHU1; scrapman1077, crispy, canadanz, smallchange, robkool, Mission16, ranshdow, ibzman350, Fallguy, Collectorcoins, SurfinxHI, jwitten, Walkerguy21D, dsessom.
  • speetyspeety Posts: 5,424


    << <i>I would buy a really nice and PQ MS64 seated dollar. >>



    NO! TDN don't give people ideas! image You know where I can find any? image


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    Outside of the above I would consider some early gold, I saw an 1812 $5 gold piece that I would have been very tempted to pick up recently had it not already been sold image
    Want to buy an auction catalog for the William Hesslein Sale (December 2, 1926). Thanks to all those who have helped us obtain the others!!!

  • Steve27Steve27 Posts: 13,275 ✭✭✭
    I would want a very recognizable key date coin, such as a 1916-D Merc Dime in AU condition.
    "It's far easier to fight for principles, than to live up to them." Adlai Stevenson
  • TennesseeDaveTennesseeDave Posts: 4,809 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I could buy 3 coins I need for $10,000.All in Pcgs XF-40 1.1815 CBH 2.1873-CC Trade $ 3.1878-CC Trade$
    Trade $'s
  • RYKRYK Posts: 35,800 ✭✭✭✭✭
    In my experience it does not work that way. One does not go out and find a coin for $10,000 just because he/she has $10,000 to spend on a coin. Eventually, one will run into a $10,000 coin and have the opportunity to buy it.

    Your way likely will result in a forced purchase, one you will later regret. Cool your jets, put the money aside, and wait until the right coin comes along. It could be tomorrow, next week, next month, or next year.

    That said, of the choices proposed, I like the seated dollar in solid 64 of those suggested. I have found Dahlonega $5's in MS-62 to be a mixed bag and relatively illiquid, FWIW.
  • JazzmanJABJazzmanJAB Posts: 1,028 ✭✭✭✭
    Something gold, like a 1851 $50.00 Humbert.
  • MrEurekaMrEureka Posts: 24,430 ✭✭✭✭✭
    In my experience it does not work that way. One does not go out and find a coin for $10,000 just because he/she has $10,000 to spend on a coin. Eventually, one will run into a $10,000 coin and have the opportunity to buy it.

    Your way likely will result in a forced purchase, one you will later regret. Cool your jets, put the money aside, and wait until the right coin comes along. It could be tomorrow, next week, next month, or next year.



    Good advice!
    Andy Lustig

    Doggedly collecting coins of the Central American Republic.

    Visit the Society of US Pattern Collectors at USPatterns.com.
  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,630 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Ever notice how much easier it is to spend someone else's ten grand ?
    Buy 9 2010 American Gold Eagles and hold them until you make 20%. That should take about a month or two.
    If I'm wrong, I can't lose.... image it's your money.
  • veryfineveryfine Posts: 1,763 ✭✭✭
    My first thought is a coin with flowing hair.
    1793-1796 in the highest grade that $10,000 can buy.
  • pursuitoflibertypursuitofliberty Posts: 7,342 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'd know what I was looking to obtain first and then I would start to look.



    In my experience it does not work that way. One does not go out and find a coin for $10,000 just because he/she has $10,000 to spend on a coin. Eventually, one will run into a $10,000 coin and have the opportunity to buy it.

    Your way likely will result in a forced purchase, one you will later regret. Cool your jets, put the money aside, and wait until the right coin comes along. It could be tomorrow, next week, next month, or next year.




    Repeated again, because both are perfectly stated image



    Since my foot is still broken and I am better sitting than not, and the coffee hasn't worn off yet, I'll add a little of my experiences;



    First I should say I don't buy $10.K coins. I don't think my "warchest" (nickname for my coin-related money) has ever been that large. In fact, to date, I have never spent more then $1.K on a single coin (although I have tried a couple times, and have a few that are worth more than that now). Sometimes I could go well into the low four figures, but often I decide to buy three or four 300. to 600. coins instead. That's just me though.

    However, just as a thought ... using a slightly smaller number ... since a $1.K size purchase would be a big deal to me, this is what I do when I'm thinking about those coins ... after I check the "'chest" that is ...

    I decide what I want and I check and see if I can afford it, and if I can find the right piece for the money they will surely command, if I think I'll be happy with the purchase.

    Actually that is he first thing I do before I check the funds. I keep a list. I modify the list every once in a while, especially while I'm more passive in buying. That helps overcome the lack of fresh pursuit. Sometimes I look harder for those pieces, sometimes not. When the funds are flush, and I have the time, and I'm in the searching mood, I look harder. But when I'm looking I try to think about coins on "the list". There are lots of distarctions out there.

    Sometimes it's a date and mintmark, sometimes a little more broad.

    In the winter of 1999/2000 I decided I wanted, and was "for sure" going to buy a 1919-S Quarter in Choice AU. It moved to the top of the list, and there it stayed, and stayed, and stayed ... until finally, in January of 2003, I found her. During that time there was probably only a couple of months where other purchases would have put me at a squeeze point, so in effect, the money was always there. I only recall seeing three coins that I really wanted, that had the right look and grade range during the time I had her on top of the list ... the first two times where I thought the coins were nice and "right", they went for far too much money than I had thought was worthwhile. Based on the one I bought and the price I paid, I was probably right, but I don't know as I didn't buy the others. I don't regret passing the ones I missed, and I still love the one I bought. I was glad my patience paid off, but it was a long wait.

    Recently I have been fortunate enough to find several more difficult coins on my list. In a few cases, they were a date and mintmark I had been searching for in a grade range I had wanted to acquire ... in another very recent case, I knew the type, denomination, decade and look (and grade range) I was hoping for, and the few dates I did not want. In all of those cases, when the pieces came up, I checked the "warchest", glad that I had kept my powder dry enough to have some left ... thought about it, reresearched and rethought about it ... and pulled the trigger. A couple were aution wins, a few were negotiated sales.




    Sorry, that's a lot of writing on the wall. I'll keep it simple if you read this far.


    My suggestion is this;


    Make a list and check it twice image

    Do the research, check the availability, know what you are fishing for and make sure you can land it ...

    THEN grab your gear and go fishing. image



    Good Luck whatever you decide ... and keep us posted!!!

    “We are only their care-takers,” he posed, “if we take good care of them, then centuries from now they may still be here … ”

    Todd - BHNC #242
  • 123cents123cents Posts: 7,178 ✭✭✭
    I would buy a 1815/2 CBH or a 1878-CC Trade Dollar.
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  • zeebobzeebob Posts: 2,825
    Easy question. Old high-grade copper.
  • zeebobzeebob Posts: 2,825


    << <i>I would want a very recognizable key date coin, such as a 1916-D Merc Dime in AU condition. >>



    Or the 1916-D in AU. I like that also.
  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,855 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The coin I really want right now is a Panama – Pacific $2.50 in MS-65 or 66 with nice luster for the issue. Since that one does not cost $10,000 I can’t answer the question well.

    Two other coins that are on my list are a 1795 Draped Bust, Small Eagle dollar in Choice EF, or a 1794 half cent in the same grade. I think I’ll need more than $10,000 to acquire either of those pieces.
    Retired dealer and avid collector of U.S. type coins, 19th century presidential campaign medalets and selected medals. In recent years I have been working on a set of British coins - at least one coin from each king or queen who issued pieces that are collectible. I am also collecting at least one coin for each Roman emperor from Julius Caesar to ... ?
  • DrPeteDrPete Posts: 1,497 ✭✭✭
    Some good advice per above, especially from RYK.

    I think it is wise to budget money for coins and have goals in mind, atlhough I do find such advise hard to follow many times. That being said, It is easy and fun to spend money, and thus it is easy to spend it foolishly. My experience in buying nice coins that are costly (and the proposed $10K coin certainly fits that moniker), is that they show up at the most inconvenient or least expected times and I generally don't have a ready "war chest" to buy them. What I use in such cases is a strategy that works for me. First, I make sure I really, really want the coin and theat it works for me. Then I work with the seller to see if there is a payment plan that works for us, a trade-in that makes sense, or use my home equity line of credit to make the deal (or some combination of these tactics). The home equity line of credit is a very low percentage loan (right now anyway) and generally the interest is tax deductible if you itemize on your taxes (I am not a tax lawyer so your own situation may vary).

    Thus, I tend to make my purchases aimed at the right coin when it is available, and figure out how to pay for it next. Yes, there are many times that I really, really want a coin, but the cost of obtaining it doesn't work for me, same as for most people.
    Dr. Pete
  • crypto79crypto79 Posts: 8,623
    1838
    Plus for a super 2 coin set
    1839

    or option 2 (best one)which is a better coin if not better date
    1839
    +
    Me + my new coin & My Wife and a two piece swim suit= 10000

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