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How much of coin sales by big dealers are lovingly placed, and how much is simply product that is ab

LongacreLongacre Posts: 16,717 ✭✭✭
My secretary handed me a letter seconds ago from one of the BIG auction houses. I opened the letter myself and took a look at the contents. In it, the letter stated, in part:

"We have registered [website reference, edited for confidentiality purposes] demand exceeding $350 million at [website reference, edited for confidentiality] from our clients, but in truth, we have additional demand from our private treaty clients that could absorb $50 million in short order."


I can completely understand that the numismatic hoi polloi who shop on the website of this firm can be referred to as people who "absorb" coin product. But I was a little shocked that the exclusive private treaty clients are viewed as "absorbing" coins, rather than having them lovingly placed with the utmost of personal service. In particular, $50 million seems like a big number that can be "placed" in "short order".

How much of a big firm's sales are typically placed with a personal touch, or are all clients treated as ones who simply absorb product?
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  • Bayard1908Bayard1908 Posts: 4,096 ✭✭✭✭
    I got the same letter a few days ago. All I noticed was that the business card was printed on very nice stock.
  • DentuckDentuck Posts: 3,824 ✭✭✭
    Mark Russell's explanation of trickle-down economics:

    "Money held by someone like Nelson Rockefeller will trickle down... trickle down... trickle down... to Jay Rockefeller!"


  • rld14rld14 Posts: 2,390 ✭✭✭
    I got same letter in the mail.

    I still have no need for it, I am still accumulating...
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  • CommemDudeCommemDude Posts: 2,355 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I can tell you that when I compete for coins against collectors who buy plastic, I always take back seat to those with an open checkbook, so I think most dealers are ready to deal 100% with the absorbers if they could find enough of them. Absorbers never send overgraded or AT coins back after all...they are just happy to first in line to absorb.
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  • BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I can tell you that when I compete for coins against collectors who buy plastic, I always take back seat to those with an open checkbook, so I think most dealers are ready to deal 100% with the absorbers if they could find enough of them. Absorbers never send overgraded or AT coins back after all...they are just happy to first in line to absorb. >>



    Absorbers image
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  • rheddenrhedden Posts: 6,632 ✭✭✭✭✭
    There are two extremes to consider:

    A) Coin dealers who sell coins part time as a hobby, and only sell things they would buy for their own collection.

    B) Coin dealers who move inventory in high volume, regardless of quality, in order to maximize profit, because they have no other source of income except your discretionary funds.


    Type A dealers place 100% of their coins "lovingly." Type B just wants to keep them moving, because the alternative might be poverty. Most dealers fall somewhere in between, but I try to seek out Type A dealers and stick with them.
  • pruebaspruebas Posts: 4,731 ✭✭✭✭✭
    You notice, they don't say what they "need." It's all "product," widgets by another name.

    Moving "product" is the name of the game in retail or at least what it has become.
  • mrpotatoheaddmrpotatoheadd Posts: 7,576 ✭✭✭
    Sellers can call it whatever they want, as long as they can find the stuff I want to buy for my collection. Honestly, I think some of you guys spend way too much time just looking for things to get worked up over.
  • RYKRYK Posts: 35,800 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Sometimes it's love, others it's absorption.
  • TrimeTrime Posts: 1,863 ✭✭✭
    Longacre:
    I share your wishes for a kind loving Numismatic world.
    However, my expectations are grounded by realityimage
    Trime
  • ElcontadorElcontador Posts: 7,702 ✭✭✭✭✭
    An astute business person is in it for the money. Almost all of it is product. A few carve out a niche market for themselves, so some of their coin are "lovingly placed."
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  • jhdflajhdfla Posts: 3,030 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>I can tell you that when I compete for coins against collectors who buy plastic, I always take back seat to those with an open checkbook, so I think most dealers are ready to deal 100% with the absorbers if they could find enough of them. Absorbers never send overgraded or AT coins back after all...they are just happy to first in line to absorb. >>



    Absorbers image >>



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  • Steve27Steve27 Posts: 13,275 ✭✭✭
    "...rather than having them lovingly placed with the utmost of personal service."

    They're just round disks, which need to moved, just like any other inventory.
    "It's far easier to fight for principles, than to live up to them." Adlai Stevenson
  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Therein lies the difference between small time operators and large business. Most participants here look at the market through a microscope, seeing a small focused segment. The major business will view the market through a telescope, seeing the big picture, including trends and pitfalls. Cheers, RickO
  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,649 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'm not a mathematician and have no clue how to come up with an equation to find the absorption rate of the product into the mass called hoi polloi. Is it an unwashed mass or deserving of having dreck lovingly placed in their possession ?

    I just don't know anymore image

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