<< <i>1987 Fleer Bonds, Jackson, Clark - 1.50 for the group 1.50 on a bad day 150.00 on a good day >>
I've been alive for roughly 14,000 days- and if someone paid me $150 for a raw '87 Fleer Bonds, Jackson, and Clark, that day would get some SERIOUS consideration for 'best day of my life'.
'Sir, I realize it's been difficult for you to sleep at night without your EX/MT 1977 Topps Tom Seaver, but I swear to you that you'll get it safe and sound.' -CDs Nuts, 1/20/14
I think Gecko needs to understand, when selling in bulk, buyers was a discount premium, since they will be stuck with crap they don't want. Even if he broke this up into "sports" groups, he might do better on here...
ALso Please Please list the follwoing so I may have the opportunity of having part of this great collection. 1990 Score Bo Jackson Never found one with enough color but yours is a screamer! 1990 Leaf Ken Jr Hope its GEM!!! 1986 Bird I have a VG set and nobody has a Vg so Ill just make this one VG Hope this helps you decide what to list Take care
"1982 Montana 1.25 after ebay fees you might have .40"
Next time you and the lady are at McDonalds when your wife orders tell her supersize your fries honey I got this one! She will of course say how can this be. Then you will say "EBAY BABY!!!"
'Sir, I realize it's been difficult for you to sleep at night without your EX/MT 1977 Topps Tom Seaver, but I swear to you that you'll get it safe and sound.' -CDs Nuts, 1/20/14
<< <i>"1982 Montana 1.25 after ebay fees you might have .40"
Next time you and the lady are at McDonalds when your wife orders tell her supersize your fries honey I got this one! She will of course say how can this be. Then you will say "EBAY BABY!!!" >>
I wonder where this guy gets his prices? I have already shown a few examples of how far off base he is. Please link me to a single 1982 Montana REGULAR card that has sold for $1.25. In fact, link me to one thats sold for even TWICE that amount. You can get an EX for around $4, and a NM/MT one for around $6. But I dont see ANY that have sold at $1.25. Now, of course, you will come back and say "so I was off by a couple bucks". But the fact is, you are off by a FACTOR of 3 on this card as well as your other 3 or 4 "valuations" of my cards. Based on your inaccurate track record so far, being off by a factor of 3, that should make my lot worth 3x what YOU claim it to be worth. But the fact is, its not. See, im a realist, and you are a bag of hot air who likes to exagerate numbers to further your agenda, whatever that may be. The fact is you have been dead wrong on your "valuations" of my cards, and another fact is that this group of cards WILL sell for $700+ when listed on ebay individually (later on today I hope). If you want to disect my asking prices, at least be honest about it rather than a d-bag who is just making himself look more and more misinformed.
Touche CD, for some reason my search on completed listings only goes back to late Jan of this year. How do you go back further? And while I did throw down the gauntlet, and you responded, in my defense I can show you 3 cards that sold at $4+ for every 1 card you can show me that sold for $2.50 or less. So again, its safe to assume average sales price on the card in question is around $3.75, or to put it another way, 3 TIMES what the "valuation guru" says.
OK $20,001.00 but not a penny more! 3x hugh you judge that off a 1.00 card. Man I was way off on the 1981 Montana then. Geezzz youre good at math gecko. Ill try and not be .01 off the next .05 card like the Bo Jackson you have or that will increase everything by like 400,000,995%. I need a calculator. Please help me do the math someone
WHATS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE!!!!!!! SOMEONE SAYS MY 1989 RIKPEN IS 1.50
Oh no guys I just realized something. That 1982 Montana has sold for 3.00 before. You know what that means? Thats right guys this deal just got better. There was a hidden gem in this lot and now its worth 2,100.00(if sold on ebay of course) thats right 3x what hes asking!! But its really worth 20,001.00 if you ask me
Whats the going rate to list stuff on ebay with a starting price of .99 now a days(just to list it the fee itself and not the % taken after its sold)? and does paypal take 3% off .99 payments or is there a minimum take of .49? cant remember. Anyone? Im sure gecko has all these important numbers ready sense hes planning on listing that famous Bo Jackson today.
I would laugh so hard if someone listed 10 of everything you listed at the same time with .01 opening bid and half your SH rate.
<< <i>I know I will get more than my asking price if I list these on ebay. Anyone want the lot for $650 before this Sunday? Otherwise i'll have alot of work to do to list all these. >>
I know I'll have a higher paycheck if I work 60 hours instead of 40. . .
Terapeak.com, definitely worth the investment if you buy and sell a lot on ebay.
Don't be mad at me Gecko, I'm the one that thinks you can get $800 before fees if you break everything it up, price it shrewdly and let it stay up on ebay for a month or two. But like Burke said:
This sounds like a lot of work to maybe make an extra $100-$200.
I nominate this as 'thread of the year' for the simple fact there is so much useful information here. It should be archived in the Smithsonian and given a future book deal. I'm glad to be a part of it.
Might as well eBay it, since apparently none here would purchase but resellers. And the reseller would begin to nibble only in the neighborhood of $500 to $550.
This is an example of a Lot being "less than the sum of its parts", since: 1) The cards belong to the over-produced 1980 to 1993 era. Anyone who wanted one has one. (Contrast with a rare Lot of 1950s.) 2) The grades 7 and 8 are considered weak and borderline investment-grade for the 1980s - no rarer PSA 9s or rarest 10s. 3) Many graded cards seem weak for their grade, with centering problems; e.g. the off-center 1987 Jordan. 4) the buyer cannot ascertain the alleged high quality of raw cards; e.g. the Jerry Rice rookie.
Therefore, offering the flat eBay price of $700 (this is not a "wholesale" price as seller claims, but the "buy anytime" price), or even a small discount at $650 wouldn't sell. Price guides only feign higher values to prop up the hobby...
"Price guides only feign higher values to prop up the hobby... "
We can agree FULLY on at least that much! Good response by the way. Very well thought out. Didnt have a chance to "Git R Done" yesterday, but will try to have everything listed sometime this week.
all you people are too funny... if ya don't like the prices.. pass on it or even pass on it with making stupid comments....would any of you make these comments at a show to some ones face?? I am highly doubting that..lol
<< <i>all you people are too funny... if ya don't like the prices.. pass on it or even pass on it with making stupid comments....would any of you make these comments at a show to some ones face?? I am highly doubting that..lol >>
I walk up to the table and see 'his' lot for $650-$700. After a very slight frown and eye-roll, I move on. The 'dealer' gets my attention to say how good a deal it is. I continue to move on, but the 'dealer' is now following, trying to convince me this is a great deal. When I stop and say that from a package standpoint it really isn't a good deal, he counters with how it is and why it's such a good deal. I continue to point out the reality of the pricing, but to no avail he continues to follow me out the door, toward my car. He's still talking as I start the engine. As I'm driving out of the parking lot, he follows me on a motorcycle, pulling up along side and wanting me to put put down the window to tell me how good his deal is. At this point I engage a cloaking device and disappear.
<< <i>Ok, here's how this lot plays out at a card show:
I walk up to the table and see 'his' lot for $650-$700. After a very slight frown and eye-roll, I move on. The 'dealer' gets my attention to say how good a deal it is. I continue to move on, but the 'dealer' is now following, trying to convince me this is a great deal. When I stop and say that from a package standpoint it really isn't a good deal, he counters with how it is and why it's such a good deal. I continue to point out the reality of the pricing, but to no avail he continues to follow me out the door, toward my car. He's still talking as I start the engine. As I'm driving out of the parking lot, he follows me on a motorcycle, pulling up along side and wanting me to put put down the window to tell me how good his deal is. At this point I engage a cloaking device and disappear.
Not too far from the truth, is it? >>
Actually its the other way around. I listed my cards for sale, with clearly stated pricing, and YOU guys decided to escalate the dialog by making comments. Pass or play, its that simple. Your critique on my pricing structure is both unwanted and unwarranted. The guys who posted here didnt frown, roll their eyes, and "move on". They ACTIVELY pursued a commentary. True or false?
<< <i>Ok, here's how this lot plays out at a card show:
I walk up to the table and see 'his' lot for $650-$700. After a very slight frown and eye-roll, I move on. The 'dealer' gets my attention to say how good a deal it is. I continue to move on, but the 'dealer' is now following, trying to convince me this is a great deal. When I stop and say that from a package standpoint it really isn't a good deal, he counters with how it is and why it's such a good deal. I continue to point out the reality of the pricing, but to no avail he continues to follow me out the door, toward my car. He's still talking as I start the engine. As I'm driving out of the parking lot, he follows me on a motorcycle, pulling up along side and wanting me to put put down the window to tell me how good his deal is. At this point I engage a cloaking device and disappear.
Not too far from the truth, is it? >>
Actually its the other way around. I listed my cards for sale, with clearly stated pricing, and YOU guys decided to escalate the dialog by making comments. Pass or play, its that simple. Your critique on my pricing structure is both unwanted and unwarranted. The guys who posted here didnt frown, roll their eyes, and "move on". They ACTIVELY pursued a commentary. True or false? >>
They actively voiced an opinion, yes. I think the blame for this thing continuing to drag on is pretty evenly split. FWIW, I think the analogy from the card show is pretty spot-on from up here in the cheap seats.
If I were you, I'd list the cards ASAP, post a link, let it drop here, and then let the market prove things. IOW, back up your confidence that your prices are legit and they're all wet.
SELF-DISCLOSURE NOTE: I don't trade, deal, or follow modern stuff AT ALL, so I have no dog in this hunt. That lot could be worth anywhere from $10 to $10K and I wouldn't know the difference.
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Another "less than the sum of its parts" argument concerns the Lot's 3-sport collection. Very few ppl I know collect all three sports. Many baseball card collectors HATE football cards.
Though not a hater, I'm not at all familiar with football card prices... to someone like me, a Joe Montana hasn't any value except what I could flip it for.
<< <i>Please post a link. Im hoping I can find a few cards at my fantasy guide prices. >>
Due to Bill's comments, there will be no link. He basically threatened auction interference by stating something to the effect of "careful about posting a link to your ebay auctions, I have a few accounts and lots of beer". That statement, coupled with Bill's thievery on the BST has made me decide that $700 just isnt worth the potential hassles. Bill subsequently went back and edited out his threats....see above.
<< <i>Please post a link. Im hoping I can find a few cards at my fantasy guide prices. >>
Due to Bill's comments, there will be no link. He basically threatened auction interference by stating something to the effect of "careful about posting a link to your ebay auctions, I have a few accounts and lots of beer". That statement, coupled with Bill's thievery on the BST has made me decide that $700 just isnt worth the potential hassles. Bill subsequently went back and edited out his threats....see above. >>
I really wish you two would take it out by the monkey bars after 6th period and settle this.
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<< <i>That won't work because he'll start the bidding at $699, with a BIN at $700 >>
I can see this thread getting another "Bump for reduced price" soon.
I have some good news and some bad news for you.
THE GOOD NEWS: If priced well, you should get around $800 on ebay for these cards before fees.
THE BAD NEWS: It's apparent that nobody likes you.
<< <i>1987 Fleer Bonds, Jackson, Clark - 1.50 for the group 1.50 on a bad day 150.00 on a good day >>
I've been alive for roughly 14,000 days- and if someone paid me $150 for a raw '87 Fleer Bonds, Jackson, and Clark, that day would get some SERIOUS consideration for 'best day of my life'.
-CDs Nuts, 1/20/14
*1956 Topps baseball- 97.4% complete, 7.24 GPA
*Clemente basic set: 85.0% complete, 7.89 GPA
This this one of your auctions? Auction
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Working on:
Football
1973 Topps PSA 8+ (99.81%)
1976 Topps PSA 9+ (36.36%)
1977 Topps PSA 9+ (100%)
Baseball
1938 Goudey (56.25%)
1951 Topps Redbacks PSA 8 (100%)
1952 Bowman PSA 7+ (63.10%)
1953 Topps PSA 5+ (91.24%)
1973 Topps PSA 8+ (70.76%)
1985 Fleer PSA 10 (54.85%)
SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Tomorrows the big day hugh?
1990 Score Bo Jackson Never found one with enough color but yours is a screamer!
1990 Leaf Ken Jr Hope its GEM!!!
1986 Bird I have a VG set and nobody has a Vg so Ill just make this one VG
Hope this helps you decide what to list
Take care
Next time you and the lady are at McDonalds when your wife orders tell her supersize your fries honey I got this one! She will of course say how can this be.
Then you will say "EBAY BABY!!!"
-CDs Nuts, 1/20/14
*1956 Topps baseball- 97.4% complete, 7.24 GPA
*Clemente basic set: 85.0% complete, 7.89 GPA
<< <i>"1982 Montana 1.25 after ebay fees you might have .40"
Next time you and the lady are at McDonalds when your wife orders tell her supersize your fries honey I got this one! She will of course say how can this be.
Then you will say "EBAY BABY!!!" >>
I wonder where this guy gets his prices? I have already shown a few examples of how far off base he is. Please link me to a single 1982 Montana REGULAR card that has sold for $1.25. In fact, link me to one thats sold for even TWICE that amount. You can get an EX for around $4, and a NM/MT one for around $6. But I dont see ANY that have sold at $1.25. Now, of course, you will come back and say "so I was off by a couple bucks". But the fact is, you are off by a FACTOR of 3 on this card as well as your other 3 or 4 "valuations" of my cards. Based on your inaccurate track record so far, being off by a factor of 3, that should make my lot worth 3x what YOU claim it to be worth. But the fact is, its not. See, im a realist, and you are a bag of hot air who likes to exagerate numbers to further your agenda, whatever that may be. The fact is you have been dead wrong on your "valuations" of my cards, and another fact is that this group of cards WILL sell for $700+ when listed on ebay individually (later on today I hope). If you want to disect my asking prices, at least be honest about it rather than a d-bag who is just making himself look more and more misinformed.
$1.31
$1.45
$1.75
$.01
$.01
$.99
$1.90
$2.24
$2.26
WHATS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE!!!!!!! SOMEONE SAYS MY 1989 RIKPEN IS 1.50
Oh no guys I just realized something. That 1982 Montana has sold for 3.00 before. You know what that means? Thats right guys this deal just got better. There was a hidden gem in this lot and now its worth 2,100.00(if sold on ebay of course) thats right 3x what hes asking!! But its really worth 20,001.00 if you ask me
Whats the going rate to list stuff on ebay with a starting price of .99 now a days(just to list it the fee itself and not the % taken after its sold)? and does paypal take 3% off .99 payments or is there a minimum take of .49? cant remember. Anyone? Im sure gecko has all these important numbers ready sense hes planning on listing that famous Bo Jackson today.
I would laugh so hard if someone listed 10 of everything you listed at the same time with .01 opening bid and half your SH rate.
<< <i>I know I will get more than my asking price if I list these on ebay. Anyone want the lot for $650 before this Sunday? Otherwise i'll have alot of work to do to list all these. >>
I know I'll have a higher paycheck if I work 60 hours instead of 40. . .
Spring for the 10 day auction to maximize your profits
Terapeak.com, definitely worth the investment if you buy and sell a lot on ebay.
Don't be mad at me Gecko, I'm the one that thinks you can get $800 before fees if you break everything it up, price it shrewdly and let it stay up on ebay for a month or two. But like Burke said:
This sounds like a lot of work to maybe make an extra $100-$200.
This is an example of a Lot being "less than the sum of its parts", since:
1) The cards belong to the over-produced 1980 to 1993 era. Anyone who wanted one has one. (Contrast with a rare Lot of 1950s.)
2) The grades 7 and 8 are considered weak and borderline investment-grade for the 1980s - no rarer PSA 9s or rarest 10s.
3) Many graded cards seem weak for their grade, with centering problems; e.g. the off-center 1987 Jordan.
4) the buyer cannot ascertain the alleged high quality of raw cards; e.g. the Jerry Rice rookie.
Therefore, offering the flat eBay price of $700 (this is not a "wholesale" price as seller claims, but the "buy anytime" price), or even a small discount at $650 wouldn't sell. Price guides only feign higher values to prop up the hobby...
We can agree FULLY on at least that much! Good response by the way. Very well thought out. Didnt have a chance to "Git R Done" yesterday, but will try to have everything listed sometime this week.
<< <i>all you people are too funny... if ya don't like the prices.. pass on it or even pass on it with making stupid comments....would any of you make these comments at a show to some ones face?? I am highly doubting that..lol >>
See your own advice, move on.
I walk up to the table and see 'his' lot for $650-$700. After a very slight frown and eye-roll, I move on. The 'dealer' gets my attention to say how good a deal it is. I continue to move on, but the 'dealer' is now following, trying to convince me this is a great deal. When I stop and say that from a package standpoint it really isn't a good deal, he counters with how it is and why it's such a good deal. I continue to point out the reality of the pricing, but to no avail he continues to follow me out the door, toward my car. He's still talking as I start the engine. As I'm driving out of the parking lot, he follows me on a motorcycle, pulling up along side and wanting me to put put down the window to tell me how good his deal is. At this point I engage a cloaking device and disappear.
Not too far from the truth, is it?
<< <i>Ok, here's how this lot plays out at a card show:
I walk up to the table and see 'his' lot for $650-$700. After a very slight frown and eye-roll, I move on. The 'dealer' gets my attention to say how good a deal it is. I continue to move on, but the 'dealer' is now following, trying to convince me this is a great deal. When I stop and say that from a package standpoint it really isn't a good deal, he counters with how it is and why it's such a good deal. I continue to point out the reality of the pricing, but to no avail he continues to follow me out the door, toward my car. He's still talking as I start the engine. As I'm driving out of the parking lot, he follows me on a motorcycle, pulling up along side and wanting me to put put down the window to tell me how good his deal is. At this point I engage a cloaking device and disappear.
Not too far from the truth, is it? >>
Actually its the other way around. I listed my cards for sale, with clearly stated pricing, and YOU guys decided to escalate the dialog by making comments. Pass or play, its that simple. Your critique on my pricing structure is both unwanted and unwarranted. The guys who posted here didnt frown, roll their eyes, and "move on". They ACTIVELY pursued a commentary. True or false?
ps) I've wasted enough time. The entertainment component of this thread is wearing off. bye
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<< <i>Ok, here's how this lot plays out at a card show:
I walk up to the table and see 'his' lot for $650-$700. After a very slight frown and eye-roll, I move on. The 'dealer' gets my attention to say how good a deal it is. I continue to move on, but the 'dealer' is now following, trying to convince me this is a great deal. When I stop and say that from a package standpoint it really isn't a good deal, he counters with how it is and why it's such a good deal. I continue to point out the reality of the pricing, but to no avail he continues to follow me out the door, toward my car. He's still talking as I start the engine. As I'm driving out of the parking lot, he follows me on a motorcycle, pulling up along side and wanting me to put put down the window to tell me how good his deal is. At this point I engage a cloaking device and disappear.
Not too far from the truth, is it? >>
Actually its the other way around. I listed my cards for sale, with clearly stated pricing, and YOU guys decided to escalate the dialog by making comments. Pass or play, its that simple. Your critique on my pricing structure is both unwanted and unwarranted. The guys who posted here didnt frown, roll their eyes, and "move on". They ACTIVELY pursued a commentary. True or false? >>
They actively voiced an opinion, yes. I think the blame for this thing continuing to drag on is pretty evenly split. FWIW, I think the analogy from the card show is pretty spot-on from up here in the cheap seats.
If I were you, I'd list the cards ASAP, post a link, let it drop here, and then let the market prove things. IOW, back up your confidence that your prices are legit and they're all wet.
SELF-DISCLOSURE NOTE: I don't trade, deal, or follow modern stuff AT ALL, so I have no dog in this hunt. That lot could be worth anywhere from $10 to $10K and I wouldn't know the difference.
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Though not a hater, I'm not at all familiar with football card prices... to someone like me, a Joe Montana hasn't any value except what I could flip it for.
<< <i>Please post a link. Im hoping I can find a few cards at my fantasy guide prices. >>
Due to Bill's comments, there will be no link. He basically threatened auction interference by stating something to the effect of "careful about posting a link to your ebay auctions, I have a few accounts and lots of beer". That statement, coupled with Bill's thievery on the BST has made me decide that $700 just isnt worth the potential hassles. Bill subsequently went back and edited out his threats....see above.
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<< <i>Please post a link. Im hoping I can find a few cards at my fantasy guide prices. >>
Due to Bill's comments, there will be no link. He basically threatened auction interference by stating something to the effect of "careful about posting a link to your ebay auctions, I have a few accounts and lots of beer". That statement, coupled with Bill's thievery on the BST has made me decide that $700 just isnt worth the potential hassles. Bill subsequently went back and edited out his threats....see above. >>
I really wish you two would take it out by the monkey bars after 6th period and settle this.
Working on the following: 1970 Baseball PSA, 1970-1976 Raw, World Series Subsets PSA, 1969 Expansion Teams PSA, Fleer World Series Sets, Texas Rangers Topps Run 1972-1989
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