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Fake S VDB on ebay...who bids on these things?

kevinstangkevinstang Posts: 1,521 ✭✭✭
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Just saw this one tonight, up over $400, mint mark isn't anywhere near close- I don't even think the whole coin is real, let alone just an added mint mark. See it Here item # 280464234214

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    cmerlo1cmerlo1 Posts: 8,043 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The date is way wrong also...

    I agree- Who bids on these things, especially after the Chinese counterfeit issue hit all of the main publications?

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    ponderitponderit Posts: 1,544 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Link

    Sorry, I just noticed you already linked it. I agree this is way off
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    illini420illini420 Posts: 11,544 ✭✭✭✭✭
    doesn't surprise me. I've seen ones that say fake in the listings go for several hundred bucks. That's still cheap enough for a scammer to buy it and then later sell it for $1000+ as a legit coin.

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    OneCentOneCent Posts: 3,561 ✭
    That is a horrible counterfeit.
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    dohdoh Posts: 6,457 ✭✭✭
    reported.
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    kevinstangkevinstang Posts: 1,521 ✭✭✭
    I just noticed he also has a 1931-S and 1922 no D up for sale as well. The 22 plain looks off as well and I don't think I would take a chance on the 31-S either. They must be starting to articifially age/wear the cents now- oddly enough I was just mentioning the other day to someone that if the Chinese got into copper they could probably do better than their non-silver silver coin copies at fooling people as copper was relatively cheap in the production costs for them.
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    HoledandCreativeHoledandCreative Posts: 2,881 ✭✭✭✭✭
    He sold a 09-S that looks similar and got a "nice coin" feedback. Doesn't look too nice through my glasses. Ouch!
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    ambro51ambro51 Posts: 14,345 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Seller emailed me back he is pulling the listing ( at least that's what he told me ). I was the third person to tell him it was a counterfeit
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    MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 39,431 ✭✭✭✭✭
    looks cleaned too
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    braddickbraddick Posts: 25,111 ✭✭✭✭✭
    In checking his feedback he had purchased legit Lincolns so apparently knows his copper.
    He also, in searching far back, had purchased from a Dealer known for selling counterfeit/fake coins (and, the seller listed them that way). That is probably his source although we won't know as the specific item is no longer in the database.

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    slipgateslipgate Posts: 2,301 ✭✭
    This is a one day auction - he knows what he is doing!
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    chucknrachucknra Posts: 310
    Now that is WAY too obvious!
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    kurtdogkurtdog Posts: 1,456


    << <i>Just saw this one tonight, up over $400, mint mark isn't anywhere near close- I don't even think the whole coin is real, let alone just an added mint mark. See it Here item # 280464234214 >>


    I have that page/item at $310. I clicked on the bidding history and I noticed every bidder is listed as "private listing - bidders' identities protected." That inspires a lot of confidence.
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    AUandAGAUandAG Posts: 25,033 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I too asked him to have a dealer look at it. Also indicated that it was a fake.

    He sent me two emails and this is the last:

    I TRIED TO TAKE IT OFF BUT IT DID NOT WORK SO ILL TELL THE WINNER AND CANCLE TRANS THANKS FOR YOUR HELP I WISH I HAD MORE SMARTS WHEN IT CAME TO THIS BUT I DONT. IM SORRY

    - baseball21riding

    I'll respond to him that I too will contact the buyer.
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    lcoopielcoopie Posts: 8,875 ✭✭✭✭✭
    how will you contact the buyer?
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    AUandAGAUandAG Posts: 25,033 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>how will you contact the buyer? >>



    The only way I can do that is if they leave public feedback. Mostly a bluff. We'll see.

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    mbogomanmbogoman Posts: 5,317 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Not only is the date horribly off, it doesn't show near the same wear as the rest of the coin. It is so different it almost looks photo-shopped onto the coin...

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    sinin1sinin1 Posts: 7,500 ✭
    if you are a underbidder in auction,

    you can do a search by bidder (you) and see who won that auction, if you hit the completed button
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    kevinstangkevinstang Posts: 1,521 ✭✭✭
    Well it closed at nearly $750!
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    BillJonesBillJones Posts: 35,786 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Yep, looks like the usual Chinese garbage.

    Why do stupid people bid on a pig in poke like this? That's not even close.



    << <i>looks cleaned too >>



    No, that's part of the Chinese copper aging process that is yet to be profected. I saw a good number of pieces with this kind of "aging" at the EAC convention last year.
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    rld14rld14 Posts: 2,390 ✭✭✭
    Why do people do this? Greed and stupidity.
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    telephoto1telephoto1 Posts: 4,966 ✭✭✭✭✭
    So much for him pulling the auction...it closed at $745. Hope the winner used PP funded with a credit card. This is an example of one of the newer Asian fakes. They are getting gradually better with the artificial aging but still don't have the fonts dialed in.

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    cone10cone10 Posts: 1,021
    I love this description of the coin "the coin was in a house fire its ben cleaned and its pitted not bent"image
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    eggboneeggbone Posts: 615 ✭
    A sucker is born every minute.....

    But a thief is always a thief!

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