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Guess the Morgan grade - Grade Revealed!

astroratastrorat Posts: 9,221 ✭✭✭✭✭
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I was playing with my camera and thought I would share a pair of images of the coin now that it is back from PCGS. So ... how was the coin graded ... or was it?

Edited to add: The "scratch" beneath NU in UNUM is a small plastic thread encapsulated along with the coin.

The grade is at the bottom of this post, so don't scroll too far if you still want to guess! image

Lane

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Okay ... the grade is: PCGS-66. Yes, the coin upgraded from the old ANACS cache where it was graded 65. The scuffs on the face are accentuated in the photo.
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    pakasmompakasmom Posts: 1,920 ✭
    Strong 64
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    wheatguywheatguy Posts: 359 ✭
    I think it might of gotten a 65. Maybe PL?
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    AUandAGAUandAG Posts: 25,030 ✭✭✭✭✭
    65PL

    nice too, just wrong mintmark!image

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    GoldenEyeNumismaticsGoldenEyeNumismatics Posts: 13,187 ✭✭✭
    66
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    HighReliefHighRelief Posts: 3,728 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I really like the look with the slight cameo and toning.

    The grade, I would give it a 65.
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    JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,852 ✭✭✭✭✭
    a linear 66. nice coin. MJ
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    DUIGUYDUIGUY Posts: 7,252 ✭✭✭


    << <i>66 >>



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    morgandollar1878morgandollar1878 Posts: 4,006 ✭✭✭✭✭
    66
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    airplanenutairplanenut Posts: 22,702 ✭✭✭✭✭
    MS65 with a chance of 66 depending on the overall in-hand look and the depth of the chatter on the obverse. From the image, I don't think it would get PL/DMPL.
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    greghansengreghansen Posts: 4,301 ✭✭✭
    I would LOVE it as a 65 but would be neutral on it as a 66.

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    ElcontadorElcontador Posts: 7,740 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I don't know how they are grading them now, but I had a few CCs in PC 5 with fewer contact marks on the cheek than this one, so I'd say MS 64. Don't deal with the PL designation.
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    NumismanicNumismanic Posts: 2,582 ✭✭✭
    64PL
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    golfer72golfer72 Posts: 3,588
    66 PL. What a great looking coin and photo!!
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    darktonedarktone Posts: 8,437 ✭✭✭
    MS66 and very beautiful.image
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    bouchardaboucharda Posts: 2,941
    I'm with the 66 crowd....image
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    GrillFlameGrillFlame Posts: 41 ✭✭
    I will guess 65
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    rkfishrkfish Posts: 2,617 ✭✭✭
    66
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    StubbyMcNumbthumbsStubbyMcNumbthumbs Posts: 1,259 ✭
    I am usually kind of neutral on Morgans, but I really like this one. Looks like a 65 all day long from here.

    Nice photos, too!
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    InternetJunkyInternetJunky Posts: 2,329 ✭
    66
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    7Jaguars7Jaguars Posts: 7,981 ✭✭✭✭✭
    64. Its a large picture but to me just too much contact to the face. I do not see good obverse PL qualities, though the reverse might qualify. To those grading 66, can you please get temp jobs as graders at PCGS when I submit my coins? Generous would not be a good enough term.
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    DoubleEagle59DoubleEagle59 Posts: 8,431 ✭✭✭✭✭
    it's an ms65 all day long.
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    ConnecticoinConnecticoin Posts: 13,272 ✭✭✭✭✭
    65+ -- possible 66 depending on how deep the scratch in the right obverse field is.
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    BillJonesBillJones Posts: 35,781 ✭✭✭✭✭
    MS-64, Premium Quality, no P-L.

    If it's in an MS-65 holder, it's in the lower range for the grade because of the location of the marks on the face.
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    gsa1fangsa1fan Posts: 5,566 ✭✭✭
    64 nice frosty luster.
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    mustanggtmustanggt Posts: 2,692 ✭✭✭✭✭
    65
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    StuartStuart Posts: 9,831 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Solid MS-65 -- Shot MS-66

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    dimplesdimples Posts: 1,286 ✭✭✭
    66 Great Cameo obverse... possible PL... hard to tell from a photo
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    GManGMan Posts: 790 ✭✭
    64PL is my guess.
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    ObiwancanoliObiwancanoli Posts: 1,065 ✭✭✭
    Too many hits on the cheek and eye for a 66, methinks... scraches under UNUM slight detractors, other minor nicks between the N in United and the N in One on the reverse... a strong 64, though I'm not confident enough about the PL... 65 wouldn't surprise me.
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    joebb21joebb21 Posts: 4,806 ✭✭✭✭✭
    64-65 doesnt look fully pl
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    astroratastrorat Posts: 9,221 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Great guesses, everyone. The range is what I expected and exactly why you need to see a coin in hand to effectively grade it.

    Hints:

    1. It is NOT a PL or DMPL. It does have frosty luster but minimal reflectivity.
    2. It was graded previously by the "old small holder" ANACS as MS-65
    3. It currently resides in a PCGS holder with an MS grade.

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    SeaEagleCoinsSeaEagleCoins Posts: 3,262 ✭
    64 (or with the way they have been so hesitant to grade anything with color lately, they might have Genuined it for QC...)
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    BloodManBloodMan Posts: 1,839 ✭✭✭✭✭
    66 and very nice image
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    coinkatcoinkat Posts: 24,379 ✭✭✭✭✭
    66PL

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    mirabelamirabela Posts: 5,196 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I bet it pulled a 66. I agree with some who've said the hits on the face are badly located, but most of the cheek is clean, clean, clean ... and the fields look really nice ...
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    SilverEagles92SilverEagles92 Posts: 6,787 ✭
    66

    That frost is gorgeous!
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    robkoolrobkool Posts: 5,934 ✭✭✭✭✭
    MS65...
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    JRoccoJRocco Posts: 14,277 ✭✭✭✭✭
    She is a gem
    65
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    JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,852 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'm sticking with 66. End the suspence already! MJimage
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    erroiderroid Posts: 795 ✭
    It looks to be a solid MS65 to me, but PCGS is tight; MS64.
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    airplanenutairplanenut Posts: 22,702 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I would be absolutely shocked if that coin is graded MS64. Those "huge" marks on the cheek are big because the images are big. They are relatively few, they are light, and I might even argue that the dead center of the prime focal area is just to the right of them.

    This coin is a solid 65 (PCGS), and Lane's coin is certainly cleaner.

    image

    Now, could his coin be in a 64 holder? Yes, but if so, it is certainly undergraded. I maintain that the piece is a very, very solid 65+
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    astroratastrorat Posts: 9,221 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The grade is at the bottom of the OP. But if you just don't want to go back, then scroll down.










































    The coin was graded MS-66 by PCGS.
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    metalmeistermetalmeister Posts: 4,614 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Probably looks nice in hand at 1.5" dia vs full screen image which shows every markimage
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    JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,852 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Lane, so how does the giveaway work? Do you raffle it off amongst all of us that guessed 66? I have my fingers crossed that I winimage

    Great score on your part. MJ
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    astroratastrorat Posts: 9,221 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Lane, so how does the giveaway work? Do you raffle it off amongst all of us that guessed 66? I have my fingers crossed that I winimage

    Great score on your part. MJ >>



    Thanks...let me give that giveaway thing some thought. image

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