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relicsncoinsrelicsncoins Posts: 8,114 ✭✭✭✭✭
What is your opinion on this Trade Dollar? It was graded by Anacs in 1982. The coin is white and has prooflike surfaces. The surfaces are also prooflike and white in the photos on the certificate. Here are the 3 scenarios:

1. The coin is a circulated proof that has been dipped.
2. The coins is a circulated business strike with prooflike surfaces that has been dipped.
3. The coin has been highly polished and Anacs totally missed it and graded the coin AU50/50.

What say you?

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  • ChrisRxChrisRx Posts: 5,619 ✭✭✭✭
    Very tough by those pictures.

    "3. The coin has been highly polished and Anacs totally missed it and graded the coin AU50/50."
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  • StuartStuart Posts: 9,831 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Although it's very difficult to discern much from your photos, I'm leaning towards your Option #3, because of the dull surfaces surrounding the protected portions of the fields just around the coin devices -- which gives the coin (IMO) an unnatural appearance such as having been polished.

    This is just my best guess based on the photos provided, which are very tough to grade from...

    Stuart

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  • relicsncoinsrelicsncoins Posts: 8,114 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'll try and get some better photos. The coin is difficult to photograph.
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  • joebb21joebb21 Posts: 4,774 ✭✭✭✭✭
    my thoughts are send it into pcgs
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  • #4 its a coin thats destroyed
  • relicsncoinsrelicsncoins Posts: 8,114 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>#4 its a coin thats destroyed >>



    Elaborate on destroyed.
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  • partagaspartagas Posts: 2,056 ✭✭✭
    #5 its a coin that was graded by ANACS and since then has been polished? Coin just seems lifeless from the photos.
    If I say something in the woods, and my wife isn't around. Am I still wrong?
  • <<I'm leaning towards your Option #3, because of the dull surfaces surrounding the protected portions of the fields just around the coin devices -- which gives the coin (IMO) an unnatural appearance such as having been polished.>> - Sturat

    I agree with the above and noticed it when we went over this what, yesterday? As for the photos - a few have said they are lifeless. This is just how I remember these b/w cert photos way back when these first came out. First I bought was a 1921-P in MS63/63 or 64/64 if that grade even existed then.
    BTW - when the very first gen small ANACS slabs came out did the just use PL or was there PL and PL Mirror?

    Thanks,
    Eric
  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,848 ✭✭✭✭✭
    As soon as I saw the picture of the coin, I thought that it was polished. Then I looked at the ANACS certificate and tried to adjust my thinking. I couldn't. I think that ANACS missed it, and I also vote for option #3.
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  • ConnecticoinConnecticoin Posts: 13,113 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Better pics will help, but I would say #2. If the hairlines are not too severe, it will probably slab AU55 to 58 at PCGS.
  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,848 ✭✭✭✭✭
    On second thought I have had a few of these coins that had P-L surfaces. In some ways it looked polished, but when I put the glass on it, I found taht it was okay. Perhaps that's the situation here. Here is picture of the P-L piece I once had in my collection. It was in an NGC MS-62 holder.

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  • Its not a proof but it looks like #2 to me. I would have to see it hand to know if it was polished but I see nothing that would lend me to think that way. Lots of TD's come PL and 76 is a well struck year typicaly.
  • DennisHDennisH Posts: 14,011 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Doesn't look like a proof to me.
    Photos suggest some polishing but aren't conclusive.
    Choice #2 is easy to go along with.
    When in doubt, don't.
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  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Number two.. with no dip... just well preserved. Cheers, RickO
  • I never was a big Trade Dollar fan.. but hey, that coin looks good nonetheless!

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