A little help please

gmherps13 · December 1, 2009 7:09PM

I have recently come across a seller, not on this site, that was and cont's to sell UNSEARCHED shotgun rolls of wheats. I ordered one and got it in and was pleasantly surprised to notice how CLEAN the brown paper roll of "25" pennies were. My question is this:

When did, whoever "they" is, stop making the rolls of pennies in 25 count rolls? And, how can I tell the approximate age of a brown paper wrap? I mean this thing was advertised as having 10's-30's in it and being unsearched. But the wrapper was remarkably in GREAT condition and still had a tremendous amount of rigidity to it. I'm just trying to research this a little am not trying to blame anyone especially the seller for anything. I just want to be a very conscientious shopper.

Thank you fellas!

dsessom · December 1, 2009 10:13PM

"Unsearched" rolls are almost ALWAYS searched. I have never seen a 25 count roll of cents, only 50.

The closest thing to an "unsearched" roll I have ever seen, were several rolls left in my grandfathers safe after he passed away. They had been in there since the early 60's, but he or my grandmother had rolled them. (Not bank rolled). But alas, even THOSE "unsearched" rolls were crap.

ricko · December 2, 2009 1:01AM

I agree, never heard of '25' cent rolls. And also, have never seen truly unsearched rolls sold either. Just hype. Cheers, RickO

BillJones · December 2, 2009 1:47AM

When I was kid, I vaguely remember seeing 25 cent rolls of cents that came from the bank back in the early 1960s. My grandmother who started collecting coins becasue of me had a few of them that she got from the bank. I have not seen them since.

Still this whole “never searched” thing is a lot of bunk. Virtually every roll has been searched, and even if it hasn’t, better dates are better for a reason. The coins don’t show up very often, and even with an unsearched roll the chances of finding a “rare coin” are very low.

Julian · December 2, 2009 2:36AM

There were definitely $.25 rolls of cents back in the late 50's early 60's.

tahoe98 · December 2, 2009 3:02AM

......i sincerely hope you didn't spend much money on the transaction.

gmherps13 · December 2, 2009 8:04PM

no, I fortunately wasn't the "actual" victim in this. A buddy of mine and I were wondering since he had gotten a few rolls that were very suspicious.

JedPlanchet · December 2, 2009 8:33PM

I've seen several different 25 cent rolls of wheat cents on eBay, usually they have cents from the 50's in them. There were some interesting looking red Wells Fargo ones listed a while back. I don't know what their origin was, though ...

InternetJunky · December 2, 2009 9:51PM

Here is a thread in which I asked the question of how to determine OBW rolls. The general consensus is they are very seldom, but rmpsrpms gives a very detailed description on his past experiences and the best to his knowledge along with auction links for differentiating rolls.

Edit to add: Some people are tricky. If they say it is "unsearched" they could just be implying it is unsearched by them, but whoever they bought them from could have picked them clean. Ask many questions when dealing with people selling rolls.

PTVETTER · December 2, 2009 11:02PM

I have seen 25 cent rolls
reciently on ebay

yellowkid · December 3, 2009 12:52AM

"Unsearched" can mean "unsearched" since it was rolled, last week. It doesn't mean anything.

ksteelheader · December 3, 2009 12:56AM

<< <i>There were definitely $.25 rolls of cents back in the late 50's early 60's. >>

Yes there were. And the coins in our pockets back then are what people pay big money for now.

tbarreca · December 3, 2009 3:32AM

Hate to be overly simplistic, but imo, buying rolls advertised as "unsearched" on the Bay is Just Plain Stupid.

19Lyds · December 3, 2009 11:43AM

CoinTalk

tbarreca · December 3, 2009 3:38PM

Read the CT thread. The probability that it's the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth strikes me as rather low. But than again, I am a skeptic by temperament.

JedPlanchet · December 3, 2009 11:18PM

<< <i>Hate to be overly simplistic, but imo, buying rolls advertised as "unsearched" on the Bay is Just Plain Stupid. >>

Depends on what you want - I'm pretty selective, but I'd say 30-50% of the rolls I've bought are probably searched. On the other hand, I get the cheap ones from the late 50s early 60s (typically $5 - 6 with shipping) because I'm more interested in collecting wrappers ... whether that is stupid or not is a separate issue, but I'm certainly not interested in buying rolls in order to make a killing on a key find.

That 1955 DD thread was interesting though - and tough to believe!

19Lyds · December 4, 2009 3:25AM

The term "searched" is very relative.

Searched for what? Clips? Broadstrikes? Doubled Dies? MS67 grades? PO1 Grades? RPM's? What?

Every roll I buy is for a specific purpose. That purpose could be searching for "recently" discovered varieties or it could simply be a roll of the dice. Chance if you will. Sometimes I've taken big chances that paid off well. Other times I've taken big chances that did not go so well but I've never entered into that chance with my eyes completely shut!

There are some interesting finds still yet to be discovered out there and they get reported constantly on these boards.

A little help please

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