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    jmski52jmski52 Posts: 24,040 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It's just a bad design for a coin. It doesn't look like a coin. It looks like the cover of some kind of sappy greeting card.

    I especially like the vapid expression on the bottom face.image
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    fishcookerfishcooker Posts: 3,446 ✭✭
    The 2009 design depicts four faces representing the diversity of our Nation...

    That is far from reality.
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    7over87over8 Posts: 4,733 ✭✭✭
    Looks like the four faces of urban America is going to be $1792.
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    RMLTM79RMLTM79 Posts: 549 ✭✭✭
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    The packaging is radically different than before as well. I liked the small boxes.

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    JedPlanchetJedPlanchet Posts: 910 ✭✭✭
    The packaging overwhelms the coin! image
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    OverdateOverdate Posts: 7,320 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Looks similar to the packaging for the now-discontinued American Legacy proof sets. Sales were less than 30K each for the last two years of the Legacy sets, and the bulky packaging probably contributed to their demise.

    I really think that packaging like this will discourage potential sales. Coin collectors shouldn't have to be box collectors also.

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    CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 34,306 ✭✭✭✭✭
    That holder is insane.
    Besides being way too big, why does the picture repeat the design shown immediately below it? Why not show the reverse?
    TD
    Professional Numismatist, Retired. 55 year member ANA. Former ANA Senior Authenticator. Winner of four ANA Heath Literary Awards; three Wayte and Olga Raymond Literary Awards; Numismatist of the Year Award 2009, and ANA Lifetime Achievement Award 2020. Winner of the PNG's 2026 Robert Friedberg Award for "The Enigmatic Lincoln Cents of 1922," Available now from Whitman or Amazon.
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    tincuptincup Posts: 5,485 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Ugh..... unpopular coin and messed up packaging to boot. And a nice hefty price. What's not to like about this deal??
    ----- kj
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    notwilightnotwilight Posts: 12,864 ✭✭✭
    Looks to me like it takes one step to put the coin in it and it stacks flat for easy shipping. Probably an efficiency/cost cutting measure. The boxes are a labor intensive anachronism. The exception is the extremely fancy boxes for expensive coins that they sell for $100+ premium. --Jerry
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    GATGAT Posts: 3,146 ✭
    I have no idea of the racial make up of Mint coin purchasers but feel the 2009 Platinum coin insults the majority of them.
    USAF vet 1951-59
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    why does the picture repeat the design shown immediately below it?

    If you look closely, there is no date on the coin image on the holder. They can use leftovers for 2010's, 11's, and 12's.
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    GoldbullyGoldbully Posts: 18,597 ✭✭✭✭✭
    2009-W APE Proof images released....
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    CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 34,306 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>why does the picture repeat the design shown immediately below it?

    If you look closely, there is no date on the coin image on the holder. They can use leftovers for 2010's, 11's, and 12's. >>



    And the reverses will change each year as well. I think you've got it!
    TD
    Professional Numismatist, Retired. 55 year member ANA. Former ANA Senior Authenticator. Winner of four ANA Heath Literary Awards; three Wayte and Olga Raymond Literary Awards; Numismatist of the Year Award 2009, and ANA Lifetime Achievement Award 2020. Winner of the PNG's 2026 Robert Friedberg Award for "The Enigmatic Lincoln Cents of 1922," Available now from Whitman or Amazon.
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    fcfc Posts: 12,805 ✭✭✭
    lol. an indian with a feather in his hair. every native american i see
    now days digs that funky look! i am surprised the asian girl does not
    have chop sticks in her hair and the black american does not have a hair
    pick!

    the white girl should probably have a hat from the era of little house on the prairie
    to make it all complete!!!

    coin collecting, when seeing coins like that, is pretty darn lame. thankfully it is just
    an over priced bullion round and destined for the melt bucket some day image
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    jmski52jmski52 Posts: 24,040 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I've solved my "moral hazard" about rewarding the Mint with an order for these.

    I'm going to load up on Margaret Taylors and then use the profits from that extremely low mintage key to buy a couple of these after they crash in price.image

    the white girl should probably have a hat from the era of little house on the prairie

    Wrong, fc. She's the prototypical "valley girl".
    Q: Are You Printing Money? Bernanke: Not Literally

    I knew it would happen.
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    WalmannWalmann Posts: 2,806 ✭
    Is it possible for a bullion coin to be worth less than melt?
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    ttownttown Posts: 4,472 ✭✭✭
    Beauty maybe only skin deep but ugly goes all the way to the bone! Uck.
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    FullStrikeFullStrike Posts: 4,353 ✭✭✭
    Compare this bow wow to the Reverse Proof Coin and you might be tricked into thinking 8,000 is a low number. image


    The desigfn is just further proof that the former Franklin Mint Artists are now working for the US Mint. image
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    claychaserclaychaser Posts: 4,406 ✭✭✭✭
    So, help me out here. There was a 3 year series going on the branches of government - and the legislative and executive brances were issued, and the judicial had a spectacurly good design, and that one was not issued. Can't we finish a series that we started? image


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    CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 34,306 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>So, help me out here. There was a 3 year series going on the branches of government - and the legislative and executive brances were issued, and the judicial had a spectacurly good design, and that one was not issued. Can't we finish a series that we started? image >>



    Wasn't that the '06-'07-'08 series???
    TD
    Professional Numismatist, Retired. 55 year member ANA. Former ANA Senior Authenticator. Winner of four ANA Heath Literary Awards; three Wayte and Olga Raymond Literary Awards; Numismatist of the Year Award 2009, and ANA Lifetime Achievement Award 2020. Winner of the PNG's 2026 Robert Friedberg Award for "The Enigmatic Lincoln Cents of 1922," Available now from Whitman or Amazon.
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    notwilightnotwilight Posts: 12,864 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Is it possible for a bullion coin to be worth less than melt? >>



    Yes, but not this one. --Jerry
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    claychaserclaychaser Posts: 4,406 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>So, help me out here. There was a 3 year series going on the branches of government - and the legislative and executive brances were issued, and the judicial had a spectacurly good design, and that one was not issued. Can't we finish a series that we started? image >>



    Wasn't that the '06-'07-'08 series???
    TD >>



    I think it was for 06 and 07, but we never got the Judicial in 2008 - but I'm not entirely sure on this. Anybody got pics of those years?

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    GATGAT Posts: 3,146 ✭


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    << <i>So, help me out here. There was a 3 year series going on the branches of government - and the legislative and executive brances were issued, and the judicial had a spectacurly good design, and that one was not issued. Can't we finish a series that we started? image >>



    Wasn't that the '06-'07-'08 series???
    TD >>


    Think he's speaking of the owl design on the 2008 coin that wasn't used.
    USAF vet 1951-59
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    claychaserclaychaser Posts: 4,406 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

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    << <i>So, help me out here. There was a 3 year series going on the branches of government - and the legislative and executive brances were issued, and the judicial had a spectacurly good design, and that one was not issued. Can't we finish a series that we started? image >>



    Wasn't that the '06-'07-'08 series???
    TD >>


    Think he's speaking of the owl design on the 2008 coin that wasn't used. >>



    YES! I thought is was really cool, and then it got dumped! image


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    GATGAT Posts: 3,146 ✭
    A great many of us on the board were disappointed by the Mint's decision not to use the owl design.
    USAF vet 1951-59
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    tincuptincup Posts: 5,485 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Ditto on the owl design.
    ----- kj
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    GoldbullyGoldbully Posts: 18,597 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Ditto on the owl design. >>


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    PipestonePetePipestonePete Posts: 1,988 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Why are there so many super-negative comments around this coin? I don't think it's that bad looking...
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    << <i>image >>



    Very nice display showing America's best modern designed coins.
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    TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 45,324 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Why are there so many super-negative comments around this coin? I don't think it's that bad looking... >>


    Did we not see the eagle's head is severed from it's body ? It looks like the head of a rat in relation to the other six heads (five heads and the obverse) on the coin.
    Where is that majestic bird perched, or is it in flight ?

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    fcfc Posts: 12,805 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Why are there so many super-negative comments around this coin? I don't think it's that bad looking... >>



    it is political correctness backlash. put it this way. you are supposed
    to judge people by how they treat others and live their life. the color
    of their skin or the shape of their nose is not supposed to be taken
    into consideration. yet here we have a coin pushing the idea of "a
    more perfect union" has to do with a bunch of different skin colors
    getting along.

    i do not care that a white male was not put on the coin. what i want
    to see is a symbol that all people can look to that represents us as
    a whole. liberty or the eagle did that very well. perhaps a flag or a
    tree. whatever really that shows strength, freedom, etc...

    "a more perfect union" should be symbolized by something that
    includes us all.

    so that is sorta how i am thinking here and would guess others are in
    the same boat.

    eventually politically correct people have to "grow up" and stop pushing
    the fact we are different physically from others. we know that! if this
    country was really past this stage of feeling so guilty we would not
    see coin designs like this. but alas... some people feel guilty for sins
    they did not commit and have to attempt to right wrongs that take
    time to heal. this coin design represents their guilt and it wants to attempt
    a fix they can be "proud" of. See here.. i am not a racist.. look at this
    coin. We white folks understand you now. Lets all hug.

    really hard to explain. but i think guilt for being white.. guilt for being
    wealthy... guilt for having more then others.. guilt is a big key ingredient
    in this nonsense.
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    TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 45,324 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>image >>


    Okay, I changed my mind. It's beautiful.
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    BithrateBithrate Posts: 555 ✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>image >>


    Okay, I changed my mind. It's beautiful. >>



    I think so...

    Taken as a whole, it's a symbol of our diversity, not our guilt. Something to be proud of, not ashamed of.
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    We, as a nation of different people, overcame our differences and beheaded the symbol of our country.
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    determineddetermined Posts: 771 ✭✭✭


    << <i>... i do not care that a white male was not put on the coin. what i want
    to see is a symbol that all people can look to that represents us as
    a whole. liberty or the eagle did that very well. perhaps a flag or a
    tree. whatever really that shows strength, freedom, etc...

    "a more perfect union" should be symbolized by something that
    includes us all. ... >>



    YES! image
    I collect history in the form of coins.
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    drfishdrfish Posts: 955 ✭✭✭✭
    You guys keep bringing up no white males-well to me all the figures look female so of course there are no white males.I have to agree that the severed chicken(eagle) head is lame....For me the 2007 reverse is the worst design of the entire series-especially compared to the other two( 06/08) in that mini-series.
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    drei3reedrei3ree Posts: 3,430 ✭✭✭✭
    I think they all look mostly asexual--the only thing that looks female is the long hair???
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    notwilightnotwilight Posts: 12,864 ✭✭✭


    << <i>You guys keep bringing up no white males-well to me all the figures look female so of course there are no white males.I have to agree that the severed chicken(eagle) head is lame....For me the 2007 reverse is the worst design of the entire series-especially compared to the other two( 06/08) in that mini-series. >>



    We don't care that there are no white males on the coin per se. Out of context, the coin would be OK. But in the context of the modern workforce, if you've been involved with a large company (or tried to get a white kid into a good college) in the past 10 years, you've found out that diversity is code for "make a white male your last choice". So that's what the reverse of this coin symbolizes to those who have been there, done that, still wearing T-shirts instead of suits.

    --Jerry
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    renman95renman95 Posts: 7,037 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I think so...

    Taken as a whole, it's a symbol of our diversity, not our guilt. Something to be proud of, not ashamed of. >>



    /

    Diversity sucks...when imposed by hypocritical political correctness.

    Diversity from the heart is grand.
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    Diversity lies not in superficial traits but in the heart and soul.

    This coin is very superficial and in no way reflects any heart or soul.
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    jmski52jmski52 Posts: 24,040 ✭✭✭✭✭
    it is political correctness backlash. put it this way. you are supposed
    to judge people by how they treat others and live their life. the color
    of their skin or the shape of their nose is not supposed to be taken
    into consideration. yet here we have a coin pushing the idea of "a
    more perfect union" has to do with a bunch of different skin colors
    getting along.

    i do not care that a white male was not put on the coin. what i want
    to see is a symbol that all people can look to that represents us as
    a whole. liberty or the eagle did that very well. perhaps a flag or a
    tree. whatever really that shows strength, freedom, etc...

    "a more perfect union" should be symbolized by something that
    includes us all.

    so that is sorta how i am thinking here and would guess others are in
    the same boat.

    eventually politically correct people have to "grow up" and stop pushing
    the fact we are different physically from others. we know that! if this
    country was really past this stage of feeling so guilty we would not
    see coin designs like this. but alas... some people feel guilty for sins
    they did not commit and have to attempt to right wrongs that take
    time to heal. this coin design represents their guilt and it wants to attempt
    a fix they can be "proud" of. See here.. i am not a racist.. look at this
    coin. We white folks understand you now. Lets all hug.

    really hard to explain. but i think guilt for being white.. guilt for being
    wealthy... guilt for having more then others.. guilt is a big key ingredient
    in this nonsense.


    What he said. I AGREE WITH FC.

    in the context of the modern workforce, if you've been involved with a large company (or tried to get a white kid into a good college) in the past 10 years, you've found out that diversity is code for "make a white male your last choice"

    And THAT, my friends is the essence of political correctness. It used to be that being a white male gave you some latitude to be a reasonable individual with a sense of fairness and justice. After 40 or 50 years of this political correctness, of being attacked for being white, male, heterosexual, Christian, educated - whatever, it gets really, really old. The attacks never stop. Might as well wear a t-shirt with a bullseye on the front and back. Nothing good has come from political correctness, and nothing good ever will. Just my two cents.

    Diversity sucks...when imposed by hypocritical political correctness.

    Diversity from the heart is grand.


    Yes, and it's the political correctness that drives wedges all throughout our society and our country.
    Q: Are You Printing Money? Bernanke: Not Literally

    I knew it would happen.

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