2009 Lincoln Log Cabin Cents Milk Spots

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• Halfhunter06 Posts: 1,332 ✭✭✭

  November 18, 2009 5:56AM

  do you mean BLACK spots?

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• tahoe98 Posts: 11,388 ✭✭✭

  November 18, 2009 6:00AM

  
  
  .......WOW! milkspots on lincolns TOO!!!

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• JoeTheCoinMan Posts: 367 ✭

  November 18, 2009 6:06AM

  
  
  << <i>do you mean BLACK spots? >>
  
  
  
  I mean white faint spots, are those not considered milk spots?

  Thanks,
  Joseph

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• tahoe98 Posts: 11,388 ✭✭✭

  November 18, 2009 6:12AM

  
  
  << <i>
  
  << <i>do you mean BLACK spots? >>
  
  
  
  I mean white faint spots, are those not considered milk spots? >>
  
  
  
  
  .......got a pic?

  "government is not reason, it is not eloquence-it is a force! like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master; never for a moment should it be left to irresponsible action." George Washington

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• JoeTheCoinMan Posts: 367 ✭

  November 18, 2009 6:45AM

  
  
  << <i>
  
  << <i>
  
  << <i>do you mean BLACK spots? >>
  
  
  
  I mean white faint spots, are those not considered milk spots? >>
  
  
  
  
  .......got a pic? >>
  
  
  
  The pics are below, I guess I am asking if a coin with these kinds of spots can get an MS 67 or MS 68? Also, if I was to send the coin in to PCGS, what do you think it would come back as?
  
  
  

  Thanks,
  Joseph

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• OPA Posts: 17,143 ✭✭✭✭✭

  November 18, 2009 6:50AM

  "Milk spots" are normally associated with Silver products....I would say that on cents they would be called "Dreck Spots?"

  "Bongo drive 1984 Lincoln that looks like old coin dug from ground."

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• Bochiman Posts: 25,556 ✭✭✭✭✭

  November 18, 2009 6:53AM

  Regrettably, I have seen these spots on new rolls of lincolns over the last few years, at a minimum.
  I don't think the 2009 lincolns will prove to be an exception

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• tahoe98 Posts: 11,388 ✭✭✭

  November 18, 2009 6:54AM

  
  
  .......yeah, those look like the bad rinse debacle of the latest zincolns.

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• adamlaneus Posts: 6,969 ✭✭✭

  November 18, 2009 6:55AM

  Nobody is addressing the question, which is:
  
  Do mint created spots like this limit the grade?
  
  I'm curious too. I don't know if this is part of the grading standard or not.
  
  It's a good question as far as numeric grades: Is is all about a search for a spot-free coin or do 'we' not care?

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• WaterSport Posts: 6,924 ✭✭✭✭✭

  November 18, 2009 6:57AM

  Started in earnest with the 2005 production..probably a change in the final wash of the copper/zinc sheets. It's why so few MS 68-69 cents exist. And NO, nothing can be done to remove them.
  
  WS

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• JoeTheCoinMan Posts: 367 ✭

  November 18, 2009 6:59AM

  So what is the highest grade this coin can get at PCGS would you say?

  Thanks,
  Joseph

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• OPA Posts: 17,143 ✭✭✭✭✭

  November 18, 2009 7:10AM

  
  
  << <i>So what is the highest grade this coin can get at PCGS would you say? >>
  
  
  
  Can't tell from your scans, but if it was an ASE with no other flaws and a perfect strike, PCGS would probably down grade it by 2 points..

  "Bongo drive 1984 Lincoln that looks like old coin dug from ground."

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• 19Lyds Posts: 26,492 ✭✭✭✭

  November 18, 2009 7:23AM

  MS-67
  
  "Milk Spot - 67"
  
  Are spots grade limiting?
  
  Yes they are. Knocked my MS69 SAE down to an MS67!

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• tahoe98 Posts: 11,388 ✭✭✭

  November 18, 2009 7:59AM

  
  
  << <i>MS-67
  
  "Milk Spot - 67"
  
  Are spots grade limiting?
  
  Yes they are. Knocked my MS69 SAE down to an MS67! >>
  
  
  
  
  ......it's all about eye appeal.

  "government is not reason, it is not eloquence-it is a force! like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master; never for a moment should it be left to irresponsible action." George Washington

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• Saam Posts: 606 ✭✭✭✭

  November 18, 2009 10:44AM

  This phenomenon on the newer Lincoln cents is sometimes referred to "skim".

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• lope208 Posts: 1,960 ✭✭

  November 18, 2009 10:48AM

  Not sure what the max grade would be on one of these coins,
  but it begs the question...if the coin has ugly spots, why would
  you WANT to get it slabbed? It won't be as high as a problem-free,
  clean example.
  
  Yes, most of the new Lincolns I receive in change have these ugly
  spots on them too. It's sad.

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• BobSav Posts: 937 ✭✭✭

  November 18, 2009 12:32PM

  Nothing a little copper cleaner won't take care of :}
  
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• TwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,623 ✭✭✭✭✭

  November 18, 2009 12:42PM

  Maybe my brain is thinking incorrectly, but I think these spots are from the pre-washing of the metal strips prior to the planchets being punched out. If that is the case, the simple fix would be forced air or compressed air drying after they're washed.

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• tahoe98 Posts: 11,388 ✭✭✭

  November 19, 2009 1:39AM

  
  
  << <i>Maybe my brain is thinking incorrectly, but I think these spots are from the pre-washing of the metal strips prior to the planchets being punched out. If that is the case, the simple fix would be forced air or compressed air drying after they're washed. >>
  
  
  
  
  
  ......that's great! IF the mint was worried about it.

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• LindeDad Posts: 18,766 ✭✭✭✭✭

  November 19, 2009 2:45AM

  Why would they be interested in the quality of a product they lose money making and serves little to no purpose anyway? Maybe if they get sloppy enough their boss will finally wake up and let them quit wasting our money.
  

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• tahoe98 Posts: 11,388 ✭✭✭

  November 19, 2009 4:04AM

  
  
  << <i>Why would they be interested in the quality of a product they lose money making and serves little to no purpose anyway? Maybe if they get sloppy enough their boss will finally wake up and let them quit wasting our money.
  >>
  
  
  
  
  ........now THAT will never happen!! the waste just continues, just look at the prez bucks!! debacle city BIG TIME!!

  "government is not reason, it is not eloquence-it is a force! like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master; never for a moment should it be left to irresponsible action." George Washington

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• JL3Eleven Posts: 93

  November 19, 2009 5:08AM

  I wonder if Mr. Hall would care to comment?

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• ricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

  November 19, 2009 5:12AM

  Try an acetone rinse followed by DI water and then alcohol with a forced air dry. May not work, but it could. Cheers, RickO

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• grip Posts: 9,962 ✭✭✭✭✭

  November 19, 2009 9:24AM

  
  
  << <i>Maybe my brain is thinking incorrectly, but I think these spots are from the pre-washing of the metal strips prior to the planchets being punched out. If that is the case, the simple fix would be forced air or compressed air drying after they're washed. >>
  
  
  
  Best answer by far keep im coming.

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