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I recently won a couple of auctions from a seller for two graded 1969 football cards. I am trying to put the set together in psa 7 or above and they were the only two available from him. I received the package yesterday. Fast shipping and great packaging, but an extra card was inside. I thought that was really nice of the seller to include a third card.

Here is the problem. Attached to the card is a note : Please Send $3.00 to my paypal address for the psa 6 card.

#1 it doesn't fit my set and I really do not want it
#2 I never asked for it, so why should I have to pay for it?

Is this a common practice that people will bundle up cards that do not sell in auctions and try and get people to pay for them. I actually think he thought it was a kind gesture, so I really do not want to neg him, but to send it back costs me just as much to send the paypal.

Just strange. I fell like I am getting scammed a little bit.
Registry Sets:
T222's PSA 1 or better

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    goose3goose3 Posts: 11,471 ✭✭✭
    I'd email him and tell him he must have made a mistake by sending that card with the note and ask if he meant to put it in another package
    and tell him that if he would like it returned he can paypal YOU 3.00 to ship it back.
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    You are not obligated to pay for the extra card. Email the seller & tell him/her to send you $X.00 for return shipping of the card.
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    gameusedhoopgameusedhoop Posts: 3,669 ✭✭✭✭
    I believe that anything sent to YOU in the mail that you didn't order is a gift.

    I capitalized YOU because some people think if it was mis-delivered that it is their's, wrong!

    I would either just thank him for the "gift" or do like goose and others have said and charge him for it's return.

    He can't neg you, but you can neg him. Just don't threaten him with it in an email etc. (extortion). Wait for his response to your proposal and go from there. Do NOT send him any $$ unless you want the card.
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    storm888storm888 Posts: 11,701 ✭✭✭

    Or, you could just mail it back to him, and that would be the end of it.

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    DboneesqDboneesq Posts: 18,222 ✭✭
    Beck ... I agree with the above posters. Email him and tell him he mistakenly sent you an extra card. You will gladly send it back to him if he paypals you the shipping cost.
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    Tedw9Tedw9 Posts: 1,424 ✭✭


    << <i>Or, you could just mail it back to him, and that would be the end of it. >>



    Exactly.

    I would just drop him an email and explain that he must have sent it to you by accident. Then just send it back to him without asking for return shipping.
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    PoppaJPoppaJ Posts: 2,818
    Sending someone a free card is one thing, but sending a card and asking for payment is off the hook.

    My first impression was that the seller is just trying to circumvent eBay listing and final value fees on a $3 card!

    PoppaJ
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    goose3goose3 Posts: 11,471 ✭✭✭


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    << <i>Or, you could just mail it back to him, and that would be the end of it. >>



    Exactly.

    I would just drop him an email and explain that he must have sent it to you by accident. Then just send it back to him without asking for return shipping. >>




    If this guy did this intentionally why let him get away with it, whether it's 3.00 or 300.00?

    reminds me of my last experience buying a new car at Victory Honda in Sandusky Ohio.

    They tried to pull some crap with me with the finance/paperwork guy adding "just a few hundred dollars" to a deal that had been finalized and insisted I owed it even though I had called 2x to confirm the amount that day prior to driving up with a cashier's check.

    You didn't order it. You shouldn't have to pay a cent or waste one ounce of your time fooling with the card unless it was a mistake.

    If it was intentional ....how many people has he bilked a few bucks here and there from?
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    swartz1swartz1 Posts: 4,911 ✭✭✭


    he purposefully emailed this to you looking for $3... (which is a joke in itself)

    you dont owe him anything...if he wants it back (which he wont) he will send you shipping $...



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    mlbfan2mlbfan2 Posts: 3,115 ✭✭✭
    Send him an e-mail saying "Hey man, thanks for the extra card. Is it free? If it's not, send $2 ($5 for shipping, minus the $3 I owe you for the card) to my Paypal address. Thanks."
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    BoopottsBoopotts Posts: 6,784 ✭✭


    << <i>Or, you could just mail it back to him, and that would be the end of it. >>



    Shhhhhhhhhh.........


    This completely inane topic has the potential of gathering 50+ responses. You're ruining the momentum.
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    Tedw9Tedw9 Posts: 1,424 ✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>Or, you could just mail it back to him, and that would be the end of it. >>



    Exactly.

    I would just drop him an email and explain that he must have sent it to you by accident. Then just send it back to him without asking for return shipping. >>




    If this guy did this intentionally why let him get away with it, whether it's 3.00 or 300.00?

    reminds me of my last experience buying a new car at Victory Honda in Sandusky Ohio.

    They tried to pull some crap with me with the finance/paperwork guy adding "just a few hundred dollars" to a deal that had been finalized and insisted I owed it even though I had called 2x to confirm the amount that day prior to driving up with a cashier's check.

    You didn't order it. You shouldn't have to pay a cent or waste one ounce of your time fooling with the card unless it was a mistake.

    If it was intentional ....how many people has he bilked a few bucks here and there from? >>




    I just think it seems like a big gamble to throw in PSA graded cards with packages being sent in hopes that people will send the money. I just don't see how that would be a money making scam, because I think most people would just ignore the note and keep the card. Who is he going to complain to if people don't send the money?

    And if Beck emailed him first asking if it was a mistake and the guy says no, then he just keeps the card and ignores the guy knowing it's a scam. If he finds out it was a mistake, then return it because probably some other collector is needing that card. Just seems like the good thing to do. But that's just me.
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    WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    PWE, 40 something cents out of pocket, no emails no BS.



    Steve
    Good for you.
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    Beck6Beck6 Posts: 1,038 ✭✭✭
    Thanks for all the feedback. I agree that it is best to just send it back. I know it is such a small amount, but I just wanted some perspective. Sometimes you fight something on principal, but I just do not see it being worth it on this one. Thank you now talk amongst yourselves.
    Registry Sets:
    T222's PSA 1 or better
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    SDSportsFanSDSportsFan Posts: 5,217 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I had something similar happen to me a few years ago. I'd won a PSA graded 1950s card on ebay. When I got it in the mail, the package also included a 1955 Topps Duke Snider PSA 5.

    I thought WOW, this seller's NICE image

    But then, I thought, well, maybe he made a mistake.

    So, I emailed him and found out it was a mistake. He sent me the proper recipient's address and asked me to send the card to them, which I did. He also paypal'd me the cost of the mailing.

    All worked out image


    Steve
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    Am I really reading this correctly? Scammed? Bilked? Get away with it?

    The pay what you think it's worth model has been around since the history of sales. Whether that figure is zero, $3, $30 or any amount inbetween, send the money and enjoy the card. Or get rid of it (understand the $3 note was what it was worth to the seller, how exactly is sending a different amount impermissible?)

    I think it would be great if this ended up working well for sports cards on ebay, but given how people question it as a scam or would even consider asking for money in addition to the card makes me wonder exactly how disconnected the people in this area of consumption has become
    Tom
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    vladguerrerovladguerrero Posts: 4,077 ✭✭✭
    what extra card? image
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    << <i>Thanks for all the feedback. I agree that it is best to just send it back. >>

    --------Assuming the card was NOT sent in error, why should you have to go through the trouble of packing the card, paying the shipping, requesting a refund, etc. b/c this seller tried to slip in a quick sale on you? I think a polite email: "Sir, I collect only PSA 7 cards but thanks for the extra..." is appropriate.
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    It sure seems hard to believe that this strategy would work often enough to make it profitable for the seller. How many people he tries this with actually end up paying the extra couple of bucks? One in five, at most?

    FWIW, I would contact the seller, politely inform him that the card doesn't fit with my collection, and offer to ship it back on his dime if he would like.
    'Sir, I realize it's been difficult for you to sleep at night without your EX/MT 1977 Topps Tom Seaver, but I swear to you that you'll get it safe and sound.'
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    WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭

    The pay what you think it's worth model has been around since the history of sales.




    Really? Unsolicited?


    Steve
    Good for you.
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    << <i>It sure seems hard to believe that this strategy would work often enough to make it profitable for the seller >>



    If done correctly it could work amazingly well. After fees and shipping, how much profit is there on an Ex-Mt 1969 card? Most likely only a dollar or two. Even if he only makes back 60-cents for each one sent, that could be a great deal for the additional large percent who remember. If done right, it could actually build loyalty, something virtually nonexistent on ebay. Of course the tact used would have to improve: "I have included 1969 Topps football #155 PSA 6. If you like it please send $3 via paypal to _____ and check out my store and other auctions for more graded cards"

    I've seen free cards included for free before, but almost always something that would never sell more than a few pennies. If I saw something very close to what I just spend $15 on, I would likely be in the 80% that pays nothing, but very likely to check out his other cards and perhpas bid a dollar or two higher in the future looking forward to the next freebie
    Tom
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    handymanhandyman Posts: 5,669 ✭✭✭✭✭
    LOL.
    I sent a guy a Pre 1930s High dollar card and when I sent the card I encluded a 1972 PSA 7 Hockey card along with a PSA 8 Football card for free. I emailed and asked him did youre card arrive? He said yea but there where two modern cards with the package what do I do with them? I just said throw them away if you dont want them.
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    mtcardsmtcards Posts: 3,340 ✭✭✭
    Keep it!

    Wait for the seller to email you about the situation and find out what his true intentions were.
    IT IS ALWAYS CHEAPER TO NOT SELL ON EBAY
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