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Solid wood album for graded coins. comments please

Although new to coin forum, I have been a collector of coins for 45 years. Lately I have been buying and making graded coins in holders (mostly PCGS).

Personally I believe holders are best for high grade coins. Looking for an album to display my Registry Sets, the choices were few. So being a material science engineer I developed this coin holder. I have gone through countless revisions, upgrades and material tests with this result. Every Regestry Set would be available with dates and mint marks along with the unique properties or varieties of each coin. Sets, owners or titles can be engraved at each customer's request. I am looking for a sale price of $29.95 for the mahogany frame and $26.95 for white pine or black acrylic plastic.

To view the coin holder go to www.truecollector70.com



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  • AUandAGAUandAG Posts: 24,946 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Here's the link:
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    Registry: CC lowballs (boblindstrom), bobinvegas1989@yahoo.com
  • Thanks for adding link Steve
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  • leothelyonleothelyon Posts: 8,492 ✭✭✭✭✭
    True collector, doesn't that sound familier! image


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  • illini420illini420 Posts: 11,467 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Pretty neat way to display your set, but doesn't seem as secure as a safe or a safe deposit box of course. Would be neat to have something like that for when I display my stuff though image Depending on how large the set is of course, for a few coins, it's cool, but for a set of say 20-40 coins or more, would be sort of bulky to move around with
  • First post ever was looking for feed back more than sales but thanks for info when we are ready to sell will use bst page thanks steve
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  • SwampboySwampboy Posts: 13,120 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Another idea for a wood guy would be a nice block of wood routed out with one or rows to hold 1-2-3-4-5-6 or so slabs in an upright position on a book shelf.

    I'd like to see one of those.

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  • coinnut86coinnut86 Posts: 1,592 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Another idea for a wood guy would be a nice block of wood routed out with one or rows to hold 1-2-3-4-5-6 or so slabs in an upright position on a book shelf.

    I'd like to see one of those.

    BTW

    image >>




    Hmm, that's an interesting idea... I like it! How wide and how long of a block? I suppose it would be custom huh image
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  • coinnut86coinnut86 Posts: 1,592 ✭✭✭
    Maybe staggered, kind of like this -_-_-_- or side by side, beveled edges on a nice piece of mahogany................. Nice, I like image
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  • mkman123mkman123 Posts: 6,849 ✭✭✭✭
    Looks pretty cool!
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  • SwampboySwampboy Posts: 13,120 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I was thinking a thick piece of wood for stability 1 1/2" - 2 1/2" thick....

    ....maybe maybe 4 - 5" deep and about 7" wide. Routed out one or two rows on an angle so the slab tips back slightly.

    "Inspiration exists, but it has to find you working" Pablo Picasso

  • I dont like it ;(

    I think I would like it if it only showed the coin and the insert with a very very thin layer covering the rest.
  • illini420illini420 Posts: 11,467 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Now that a take another look at your product, you're calling it a registry album... does that mean you put these wooden "pages" in an album of some type?? Not sure I get what the full product is w/ the pics you have posted on your site, any more pics????



  • << <i>I dont like it ;(

    I think I would like it if it only showed the coin and the insert with a very very thin layer covering the rest. >>



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  • The total thickness of the album page is 3/4 inch. Thin as I could make it to hold a PCGS, NGS ,ANACS, IGC or a PCGS
    blank holder for raw coins.
    To hold a set of 45 coins the 5 pages would be 3 3/4 thick 9 1/2 inch wide and 11 1/2 high. This would be the
    size of a dictionary that could be stored on a book shelf.
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  • ambro51ambro51 Posts: 13,952 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Not a fan. Looks home made. sorry.

  • StaircoinsStaircoins Posts: 2,577 ✭✭✭

    I'd be concerned about the wood and/or finishing products (stains, varnish, etc.) outgassing that close to my coins.

    I also tend to agree with ambro regarding the homemade appearance, although this could be overcome, and is really more of a personal preference.

    The environmental issue is much more of a concern, as it's been shown many times that slabs are not airtight.





  • GoldbullyGoldbully Posts: 17,990 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I like these too....but would I buy one????

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    PCGS Wood


  • << <i>I like these too....but would I buy one????

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    PCGS Wood >>



    Let me warn everyone that I had a PCGS 30 coin mahogany box full of silver coins including a 1995-w ASE.
    After resting closed at room temp for 3-5 years there was definate toning of multiple coins including the 1995-W ASE.
    A light golden toning.................

    I wouldn't store any blast white silver coins in a wooden box again............
  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Looks like a nice product... and certainly some market within the vast collecting community. I would ensure a sealer is placed on the wood - preferrably an acrylic sealer. The fact that they are open to the air would minimize the outgassing issue encountered with wooden boxes. I also have a large, made for coins, coin cabinet made from wood and felt lined. I have had no toning issues after years of storage. Cheers, RickO
  • Thanks for the comments on the wood and finish A point very well taken. I now beleave the product should be plastic thin as possable My patent covers both plastic and wood thus all of your comments have educated me a great deal. I wish I had found this site years ago.
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  • ambro51ambro51 Posts: 13,952 ✭✭✭✭✭
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  • thats about right steve
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  • ambro51ambro51 Posts: 13,952 ✭✭✭✭✭
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  • Think outside the box . Coin collector for 45 years


  • Think outside the box . Coin collector for 45 years


  • Think outside the box . Coin collector for 45 years
  • ambro51ambro51 Posts: 13,952 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Well, at least nothing is spelled wrong.


  • << <i>2manycoins2fewfunds - Let me warn everyone that I had a PCGS 30 coin mahogany box full of silver coins including a 1995-w ASE.
    After resting closed at room temp for 3-5 years there was definate toning of multiple coins including the 1995-W ASE.
    A light golden toning.................

    I wouldn't store any blast white silver coins in a wooden box again............ >>




    Hmmmm. image

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  • ponderitponderit Posts: 1,544 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'm not a fan of display boxes. Theives seem to like coins.
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