2009 lincoln ddr thread for "BOX DATES AND NUMBER FOUND"

luckyman · July 29, 2009 5:29PM

Just finished with a 4/29 box....eight wddr-005's....and then I discovered something interesting that I had never seen posted here or on

Wexler's site. I call it the "extra blade of grass" error. Kind of has the "extra leaf" shape from the Wisconsin quarters. It is located

between the hammer and the left boot. It looks like a long blade of grass protruding from the side of the boot in a north-westerly direction

outward toward the hammer. At first I dismissed it when I saw it as just a longish cud, but then I found a second one with exactly the

same location and shape, then a third, and so on until I had found thirteen total that have exactly the same location and pattern. I know

you all want pics, but again my photo equipment is inadequate to take the necessary closeups. I may go to Best Buy tomorrow and "test"

a couple of cameras and bring one of these along for "testing". If I find a deal on a good camera then I will share with you. Has anyone

else reported seeing these before? If so, anyone have pics? Let me know if this is a new discovery....I was pretty excited to see these

boucharda · July 29, 2009 9:25PM

I've got 46 graded in the FedEx truck coming to me today. WDDR's 001, 002, 003, 006, 013b"s. I did not cherry pick the 006's and 013b's so it will be an adventure.

sanitarium1inmate · July 29, 2009 10:52PM

<< I've got 46 graded in the FedEx truck coming to me today. WDDR's 001, 002, 003, 006, 013b"s. I did not cherry pick the 006's and 013b's so it will be an adventure. >>

Good luck on your 006's and 013's.

How is evereyone storing their Denver rolls? Personally I have been writing the date, 9774/9883, and time stamp on each roll as it comes out of the box so I know which box and date they came out of just in case a new D error comes out. Actually, has anybody been looking through their D-mint rolls for any errors or have you been just storing them away?

sanitarium1inmate · July 29, 2009 11:09PM

Anyone else find the struck thru debris on their CDDR-001's? If so did you send any off to be graded? What do you think the pop will be on these double error coins?

boucharda · July 30, 2009 12:34AM

<< Anyone else find the struck thru debris on their CDDR-001's? If so did you send any off to be graded? >>

I have a few of those but did not send them to be graded...

POP numbers would be hard to figure especially since the ANACS POP page is still reading zero graded

DieVarieties · July 30, 2009 12:48AM

For those that maybe interested, my free on-line Die Variety News (DVN) magazine Supplement Issue #9 will be published tomorrow. This will be the biggest issue to date with over 60 pages of photos, overlays and die markers illustrating the recently added FY and EC varieties assigned in my "C" files.

As always ... Good Hunting!!!

Billy (dvn)

luckyman · July 30, 2009 1:26AM

Anyone have any thoughts on my last post? Is this a new ddr error or die clash error like the "catfish" Abe variety? Has anyone else seen

it in their searches? Has this been included in the Die Variety News Publication? Thanks....

sanitarium1inmate · July 30, 2009 1:59AM

<< Anyone have any thoughts on my last post? Is this a new ddr error or die clash error like the "catfish" Abe variety? Has anyone else seen

it in their searches? Has this been included in the Die Variety News Publication? Thanks.... >>

All I can do is search back in my 4/29 boxes and see if anything pops out at me. I don't recall seeing anything like that yet. I have seen all the DVN publications and have not seen anything that fits your description. A new publication will be out tommorrow as Mr. Crawford has just said so we shall see if it made it into it. Good luck on the camera search, My Kodak easyshare came with a program cd that helps me crop pictures to get some nice close-ups. Check out if any have similar program cd's that come with the camera, might be helpful. If it is a new discovery then let me be first to congratulate you on the find.

luckyman · July 30, 2009 2:06AM

thanks. I will check out that Kodak.

CoinCrazyPA · July 30, 2009 7:19AM

error obw ebay Do you think this is real bank wrapped roll, or did someone insert the error in it?

CoinCrazyPA · July 30, 2009 7:27AM

I opened two boxes 4/17 and found a WDDR 2 on each of the ends of the roll, do you think the WDDR 1's are also in them and should I sell them or open them, any thoughts?

pitboss · July 30, 2009 7:56AM

4/17 usually do have 001's and 002's but I opened 1 the other day that did not
As far as opening the one with a error on the end, go ahead, I have opened many of them with errors on both ends with great results.

Casman · July 30, 2009 9:15AM

<< error obw ebay Do you think this is real bank wrapped roll, or did someone insert the error in it? >>

I'd say you guessed it right, that seller has some suspicious looking listings and IMO self stamps rolls and boxes as well....

jessewvu · July 30, 2009 9:18AM

So, is there any added value in sending these errors into PCGS for grading even through they don't have any attribution?

luckyman · July 30, 2009 9:31AM

At this point I'd say no....when PCGS starts attributing that will legitimize these errors. If the redbook acknowledges these varieties it

would force the issue, but it's my understanding that neither PCGS or NGC will start anytime soon on that path. Anacs is the only TPG

as you know that currently does grade and attribute, but Ebay prices seem soft right now on them....so....we wait and see...

pitboss · July 30, 2009 9:50AM

<< 

<< error obw ebay Do you think this is real bank wrapped roll, or did someone insert the error in it? >>

I'd say you guessed it right, that seller has some suspicious looking listings and IMO self stamps rolls and boxes as well.... >>

Let's put it this way, I sure would not buy them. I saw these kind of rolls with the Wisconsin extra leafs.

I have been buying up the rolls from the mint sets with great results. ( Yes folks, I am still buying.)

rayban · July 30, 2009 9:53AM

bought 2 rolls of 04/23/09 from this guy on ebay...sent me two rolls of 04/24/09 instead....also was to include a sheet of lincoln stamps....and that was missing.....contacted him and he said he thought i would not mind the different dated boxes since they were still early dated boxes....well to make a long story short....he wanted me to send them back for a refund and guess who pays shipping to send them back...me...just ended up keeping them instead....warning ....your right , look at the junk he sells.

pitboss · July 30, 2009 9:58AM

Welcome new member.

Thanks for your input. That just sums up what I suspected.

CoinCrazyPA · July 30, 2009 10:01AM

Thank you, I really enjoy these boards.

Papi · July 30, 2009 10:01AM

<< bought 2 rolls of 04/23/09 from this guy on ebay...sent me two rolls of 04/24/09 instead....also was to include a sheet of lincoln stamps....and that was missing.....contacted him and he said he thought i would not mind the different dated boxes since they were still early dated boxes....well to make a long story short....he wanted me to send them back for a refund and guess who pays shipping to send them back...me...just ended up keeping them instead....warning ....your right , look at the junk he sells. >>

Who was the seller?

rayban · July 30, 2009 10:15AM

grandmagoodiesshop...still deciding to sap him with a negitive feedback...

Casman · July 30, 2009 10:19AM

<< bought 2 rolls of 04/23/09 from this guy on ebay...sent me two rolls of 04/24/09 instead....also was to include a sheet of lincoln stamps....and that was missing.....contacted him and he said he thought i would not mind the different dated boxes since they were still early dated boxes....well to make a long story short....he wanted me to send them back for a refund and guess who pays shipping to send them back...me...just ended up keeping them instead....warning ....your right , look at the junk he sells. >>

Not surprising, if you want stamps try the post office here Lincoln Commem stamps USPS link

I'd gotten into it with a different seller awhile back after he claimed the stamps one his rolls were sold out and extremely rare...I thought he didn't know so I sent him a message and a link, he replied with
Fine, go buy them then leave me alone and go Foff. Guy then went nonstop psycho selling me messages etc.. he's a seller with 2 ID's selling the same stuff identically listed and shills to boot...There are supposed to be rules in place regarding selling stamps which he clearly violated but Ebay did nothing...Oh well...

Papi · July 30, 2009 10:24AM

<< grandmagoodiesshop...still deciding to sap him with a negitive feedback... >>

Thanks for the heads up. I had something of theirs on my watch list.........not anymore.

I usually do not leave negatives. Grandma told me; "If you have nothing nice to say............" you know the rest.

But in this case, if they refuse to refund your purchase price AND return postage for something you obviously did not bid on, I would seriously consider a neg.

rayban · July 30, 2009 10:26AM

yes i know about the stamp game...told him i really did not care about not receiving the stamps....that i would just would have used them for mailing my bills....still have 2 sheets on my desk that i got from the post office...still worth $8.40 that i got ripped off for..

Papi · July 30, 2009 10:26AM

<< [he replied with Fine, go buy them then leave me alone and go Foff. Guy then went nonstop psycho >>

I've had this experience too. They're big talkers, hiding behind a computer screen.

CoinCrazyPA · July 30, 2009 10:42AM

I have had 5 people send me dates other than the ones I won, now I ask to be sure to send the box I won from the auction. Also all 5 people paid return shipping. You just need to press them.

puritan9 · July 30, 2009 10:54AM

You can also do a chargeback saying that the item was not as described

Casman · July 30, 2009 10:55AM

<< 

<< [he replied with Fine, go buy them then leave me alone and go Foff. Guy then went nonstop psycho >>

I've had this experience too. They're big talkers, hiding behind a computer screen. >>

This was not the psycho seller directly, but i believed at the time his alt ID as the listings were identical same BS colors font everything..., and back then they were true auctions with shill bids...

Go ahead and let them know the stamps are still not sold out...hehehehe

link to alt...

luckyman · July 30, 2009 1:26PM

just finished searching a box ...4/23.....five wddr-006's...finally found some!

thanks again to our friend Rogerd that posted the key

times to look for. I also found ten wddr-010's (hard suckers to see through my loupe) and four die cracks (small) from the rim on the

reverse top through the letter "s" down to the top of Lincoln's head. A very subtle die crack compared to the monster gaping cracks posted

before. My mission to find the elusive 006 is completed!!!!!!!!

JungleFever · July 30, 2009 2:01PM

<< error obw ebay Do you think this is real bank wrapped roll, or did someone insert the error in it? >>

Does not look like a re-wrap to me, I think it's real.

pitboss · July 30, 2009 6:36PM

You can only see one end of the roll !

luckyman · July 31, 2009 2:04AM

Don't see many graded errors on Ebay....please post pics!

JungleFever · July 31, 2009 3:23AM

<< You can only see one end of the roll ! >>

that's the end I'm talking about

Papi · July 31, 2009 4:17AM

<< I agree completely and I still feel that we(PCGS members) are finding the bulk of them because we are the only one that knew about them. >>

What about all the non-PCGS members that read Coin World? Wasn't it on the front page?

boucharda · July 31, 2009 5:10AM

Well.....I got my graded slabs back........Here they are (all CDDR numbers)

001- MS 65-1
..............66-3
..............67-4

002- MS 65-1
..............66-2
..............67-1

003-MS 66-4
.............67-6

004-MS 66-3
.............67-7

005-MS 66-1
.............67-1

006-MS 66-1
.............67-1

009/DDO-002
.............66-2
.............67-2

010-MS 66-1

AND...................

For the finale....................

014---(the large rev. die crack)

MS- 65-1

MS 66-1

MS 67-1

and.......

MS 68-1

COOL!

Papi · July 31, 2009 5:29AM

Wow a 68 !!!!!

Congrats !!!

Is that the TOP POP?

sanitarium1inmate · July 31, 2009 5:35AM

WOW

Those are some nice grades. A super Congrats on the ms68. I sure believe you will get your grading fee's back. WOW, all I can say.

boucharda · July 31, 2009 6:42AM

<< Those are some nice grades. >>

Kind of weird in that I did NOT cherrypick the 014's (die break) and the 006's (skeleton finger) and I did as well as the numbers I did cherrypick. Guess my eyes are getting old.

I have not heard of a 68 as of yet but it's hard to figure with the ANACS POP link not giving any data. The only 68 I can remember was a NGC and a non-error.

That one sold for moon money

08HALA20 · July 31, 2009 6:52AM

<< 

<< Those are some nice grades. >>

Kind of weird in that I did NOT cherrypick the 014's (die break) and the 006's (skeleton finger) and I did as well as the numbers I did cherrypick. Guess my eyes are getting old.

I have not heard of a 68 as of yet but it's hard to figure with the ANACS POP link not giving any data. The only 68 I can remember was a NGC and a non-error.

That one sold for moon money

>>

MS68 will be a rare coin
NGC has 0 EC cents graded 68 and only 14 FY graded 68 out of 26,000 total

Nice one,
Joe

pitboss · July 31, 2009 7:05AM

<< Don't see many graded errors on Ebay....please post pics! >>

I have MS66's and MS67's on there with over 500 people looking at them and 2 buyers so far.

The WDDR 001's and WD002"s are top pop so far in MS 67 and I have quite a few of those.

That's great that there has finally been a MS68 on that 014. Congratulations !

CoinCrazyPA · July 31, 2009 9:36AM

Found my first 13 Stage B today, any guesses on the mintage of the 13 B stage cents? Or any cent coin with a crack that big

4/15 11:48 Also had WDDR-12 and 13 A in it.

Papi · July 31, 2009 10:08AM

<< Found my first 13 Stage B today, any guesses on the mintage of the 13 B stage cents? Or any cent coin with a crack that big >>

What date/time?

jessewvu · July 31, 2009 10:12AM

Do you need to be a member of ANACS to submit coins? How much are they each? How long does it take to get them graded?

Papi · July 31, 2009 10:26AM

<< Do you need to be a member of ANACS to submit coins? How much are they each? How long does it take to get them graded? >>

Actually I believe it's one of the top 3 TPGs that don't require a membership for submission.

pitboss · July 31, 2009 11:03AM

<< Do you need to be a member of ANACS to submit coins? How much are they each? How long does it take to get them graded? >>

You do not have to be a member. They charge $15 grading fee for up to 80 coins. If you do 80 its $10 a coin. It is running about 21 days. Go to ANACS.com for submission forms.

Papi · July 31, 2009 11:07AM

<< 

<< Do you need to be a member of ANACS to submit coins? How much are they each? How long does it take to get them graded? >>

You do not have to be a member. They charge $15 grading fee for up to 80 coins. If you do 80 its $10 a coin. It is running about 21 days. Go to ANACS.com for submission forms. >>

Is that with attribution?

jessewvu · July 31, 2009 11:09AM

<< 

<< 

<< Do you need to be a member of ANACS to submit coins? How much are they each? How long does it take to get them graded? >>

You do not have to be a member. They charge $15 grading fee for up to 80 coins. If you do 80 its $10 a coin. It is running about 21 days. Go to ANACS.com for submission forms. >>

Is that with attribution? >>

And can I just send in 500 coins, of various DDR and have them sort them out or does each one have to be attributed by me first?

Papi · July 31, 2009 11:10AM

500?????

That's $5,000

CoinCrazyPA · July 31, 2009 11:20AM

I think it is $5 more per coin if they attribute it. $7,500

pitboss · July 31, 2009 11:25AM

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<< 

<< 

<< Do you need to be a member of ANACS to submit coins? How much are they each? How long does it take to get them graded? >>

You do not have to be a member. They charge $15 grading fee for up to 80 coins. If you do 80 its $10 a coin. It is running about 21 days. Go to ANACS.com for submission forms. >>

Is that with attribution? >>

And can I just send in 500 coins, of various DDR and have them sort them out or does each one have to be attributed by me first? >>

I believe you have to separate them but call ANACS,1 800 888 1861, Monday morning after 8am mountain time to be sure.

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