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Cancelled Morgan dollar die copies

jmcu12jmcu12 Posts: 2,452 ✭✭✭
I got these off the bay. Can anyone tell me about the history of these? They are unique, at least I have never seen them before.

The Obverse die is an 1884, not sure if it is a CC or not, I have not tried to VAM it - but I think so.

The Reverse die is an 1878 CC

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  • HTubbsHTubbs Posts: 4,138 ✭✭✭
    So, these are actually made from real canceled Morgan Dollar dies? If so, very cool! How much were these?
  • coinkid855coinkid855 Posts: 5,012 ✭✭✭
    I have a set of these as well. I got them off the bay.



    -Paul
  • BarndogBarndog Posts: 20,507 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edit: a trusted source told me that the Washington quarter "die" image I first posted (quoted by someone else) was a fake...in other words the image was not that of a true die for a Washington quarter.
    So I removed the image. To make the point I originally intended to make, which was showing a "mirror image" appearance of a die face, I went to Fred Weinberg's site and found a useful image of an item he has for sale:

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  • CoinosaurusCoinosaurus Posts: 9,635 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I think those are legit - they have recovered hundreds of CC dies from the old mint site and a number of trial strikes exist. I think they are issuing them pretty judiciously tho.
  • coinkid855coinkid855 Posts: 5,012 ✭✭✭


    << <i>not a copy of a die if you consider dies should appear as "mirror images" like this one:

    image >>




    They're not copies of dies, rather, they're strikes made from canceled dies.



    -Paul
  • BarndogBarndog Posts: 20,507 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>


    They're not copies of dies, rather, they're strikes made from canceled dies.



    -Paul >>




    that makes much more sense
  • coinkid855coinkid855 Posts: 5,012 ✭✭✭
    Here's mine:


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    -Paul
  • GoldenEyeNumismaticsGoldenEyeNumismatics Posts: 13,187 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I think those are legit - they have recovered hundreds of CC dies from the old mint site and a number of trial strikes exist. I think they are issuing them pretty judiciously tho. >>



    It's from an original pair of CC dies---I had the chance to handle the original dies this past summer.

    However, this pair is not from any of the dies recovered from the old CC Mint yard.
  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,478 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Are those transfer copy dies used to make the medallions?
    Numismatist. 50 year member ANA. Winner of four ANA Heath Literary Awards; three Wayte and Olga Raymond Literary Awards; Numismatist of the Year Award 2009, and Lifetime Achievement Award 2020. Winner numerous NLG Literary Awards.
  • Get some to Dan Carr so he can try them in his press.

    You know, that's a pretty *BIG* VAM you got there!
  • ByersByers Posts: 1,625 ✭✭✭✭✭
    They are NOT unique. Here's a link to uspatterns.com which shows several different ones:

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    mikebyers.com Dealer in Major Mint Errors, Die Trials & Patterns - Author of NLG Best World Coin Book World's Greatest Mint Errors - Publisher & Editor of minterrornews.com.
  • numobrinumobri Posts: 1,473 ✭✭✭
    Check this out...
    NUMO
  • jmcu12jmcu12 Posts: 2,452 ✭✭✭


    << <i>They are NOT unique. >>



    Oh, I know they are not unique from a "They are the only ones in existance" but they are unique in that you dont see them everyday.


    I would LOVE to get one in silver - if anyone finds one let me know, I might like to pick it up!
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  • numobrinumobri Posts: 1,473 ✭✭✭


    Mine is made of GOLD and Silverimage


    Brian
    NUMO

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