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Cancelled Morgan dollar die copies

jmcu12jmcu12 Posts: 2,452 ✭✭✭
I got these off the bay. Can anyone tell me about the history of these? They are unique, at least I have never seen them before.

The Obverse die is an 1884, not sure if it is a CC or not, I have not tried to VAM it - but I think so.

The Reverse die is an 1878 CC

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    HTubbsHTubbs Posts: 4,138 ✭✭✭
    So, these are actually made from real canceled Morgan Dollar dies? If so, very cool! How much were these?
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    coinkid855coinkid855 Posts: 5,012 ✭✭✭
    I have a set of these as well. I got them off the bay.



    -Paul
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    BarndogBarndog Posts: 20,525 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edit: a trusted source told me that the Washington quarter "die" image I first posted (quoted by someone else) was a fake...in other words the image was not that of a true die for a Washington quarter.
    So I removed the image. To make the point I originally intended to make, which was showing a "mirror image" appearance of a die face, I went to Fred Weinberg's site and found a useful image of an item he has for sale:

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    CoinosaurusCoinosaurus Posts: 9,652 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I think those are legit - they have recovered hundreds of CC dies from the old mint site and a number of trial strikes exist. I think they are issuing them pretty judiciously tho.
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    coinkid855coinkid855 Posts: 5,012 ✭✭✭


    << <i>not a copy of a die if you consider dies should appear as "mirror images" like this one:

    image >>




    They're not copies of dies, rather, they're strikes made from canceled dies.



    -Paul
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    BarndogBarndog Posts: 20,525 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>


    They're not copies of dies, rather, they're strikes made from canceled dies.



    -Paul >>




    that makes much more sense
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    coinkid855coinkid855 Posts: 5,012 ✭✭✭
    Here's mine:


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    -Paul
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    GoldenEyeNumismaticsGoldenEyeNumismatics Posts: 13,187 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I think those are legit - they have recovered hundreds of CC dies from the old mint site and a number of trial strikes exist. I think they are issuing them pretty judiciously tho. >>



    It's from an original pair of CC dies---I had the chance to handle the original dies this past summer.

    However, this pair is not from any of the dies recovered from the old CC Mint yard.
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    CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 33,833 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Are those transfer copy dies used to make the medallions?
    Numismatist. 54 year member ANA. Former ANA Senior Authenticator. Winner of four ANA Heath Literary Awards; three Wayte and Olga Raymond Literary Awards; Numismatist of the Year Award 2009, and ANA Lifetime Achievement Award 2020. Also won the PNG's Robert Friedberg Award for "The Enigmatic Lincoln Cents of 1922," Available now from Whitman or Amazon.
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    Get some to Dan Carr so he can try them in his press.

    You know, that's a pretty *BIG* VAM you got there!
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    ByersByers Posts: 1,936 ✭✭✭✭✭
    They are NOT unique. Here's a link to uspatterns.com which shows several different ones:

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    mikebyers.com Dealer in Major Mint Errors, Die Trials & Patterns - Author of NLG Best World Coin Book World's Greatest Mint Errors - Publisher & Editor of minterrornews.com.
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    numobrinumobri Posts: 1,473 ✭✭✭
    Check this out...
    NUMO
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    jmcu12jmcu12 Posts: 2,452 ✭✭✭


    << <i>They are NOT unique. >>



    Oh, I know they are not unique from a "They are the only ones in existance" but they are unique in that you dont see them everyday.


    I would LOVE to get one in silver - if anyone finds one let me know, I might like to pick it up!
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    numobrinumobri Posts: 1,473 ✭✭✭


    Mine is made of GOLD and Silverimage


    Brian
    NUMO

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