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Here's A Coin That Has It All....Love It....1815 Half Eagle
elwood
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I was just looking through FUN Show Auction Lots and felt the need to post this.
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THIS is a coin that I would NOT have any contention if someone called it "SUPERB".
Very nice coin, Elwood
I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment
Not only is it a beautiful example but it has rarity too, with only around 12 examples known.
<< <i>Wow. Nice coin. Dare I say that Liberty is even looking hot? Okay, no. That's the beer talking. >>
I've just sucked down 5 big cans of Guinness. Clearly, you have had at least 12.
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Wow. Nice coin. Dare I say that Liberty is even looking hot? Okay, no. That's the beer talking.
but, that is a hot looking coin!
what do you think Steve? Does it break a half mil'??
“We are only their care-takers,” he posed, “if we take good care of them, then centuries from now they may still be here … ”
Todd - BHNC #242
<< <i>Of all of the allegorical depictions of Liberty on U.S. coinage, I consider this design to be the least flattering, and somewhat misogynistic, wether by chance or by choice of the designer. >>
That's a bit harsh. It doesn't look any worse than the Barber Design
<< <i>what do you think Steve? Does it break a half mil'?? >>
I would hope so.
Oh, it's graded MS-64
I would "value" it higher than many, many other coins (1913 Nickels, etc.), but since I don't play in that arena
I wondered where it would fall comapritively, price-wise ... especially in what may be a somewhat slipping market
(again, I don't play in that league, so I don't know the particulars there).
It looks to be a mostly (truely?) original near Gem. It's rarity stands alone. How many Unc's are there ... four?
The original mintage is thought to be 635, correct?
Whatever the case ... it is a superlative example. Thanks for sharing her here ...
“We are only their care-takers,” he posed, “if we take good care of them, then centuries from now they may still be here … ”
Todd - BHNC #242
not saying this is the Garrett coin. Is this the Garrett coin? the Eliasberg? Who used to own this coin?
Liberty: Parent of Science & Industry
Baley
It is the Garrett coin.
Did you see a picture in he Catalogue? Does it look the same?
there's a doubloon in the same Garrett sale that I spent some time reading about, too. dont spose there's one of THEM for sale too now?
Liberty: Parent of Science & Industry
on the high points but i am obviously wrong.
I think the Barber design is beautiful! Why do so many think otherwise??
I also like the Liberty Nickel, which is also designed by Barber.
Anyway, the 1815 IS a beautiful coin and way out of my league.
on the high points but i am obviously wrong.
not necessarily wrong, the cataloguers in 1979 thought it was AU, too
Liberty: Parent of Science & Industry
<< <i>not necessarily wrong, the cataloguers in 1979 thought it was AU, too >>
Was it really described as AU?
Definitely over-graded and therefore, over priced...
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<< <i>yowza! ms64. the pics just gave me the thought it had some wear
on the high points but i am obviously wrong.
not necessarily wrong, the cataloguers in 1979 thought it was AU, too >>
interesting. i normally say what i feel without being too worried if i am
wrong.. but now more people are stating the same thing.. and it
was considered AU back in the day based on stricter, more conservative
grading standards.
hmm.. makes one really think, does it not?
Indeed. By none other than QDB, I believe
the color plate image
Liberty: Parent of Science & Industry
Thanks Baley!!
<< <i>I was just looking through FUN Show Auction Lots and felt the need to post this.
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Obviously a beautiful coin and way out of my league, but there appears to be obvious wear/luster breaks on the nose/curls/cap on the obverse.
This coin sure looks AU and not MS unless you market grade her which I do not do.
I can't call my nice clean 2 month old car new because it looks really good.
<< <i>Wow. Nice coin. Dare I say that Liberty is even looking hot? Okay, no. That's the beer talking. >>
Coin's for sale/trade.
Tom Pilitowski
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An authorized PCGS dealer, and a contributor to the Red Book.
AU 58, MS60, MS61, MS62, MS63...
Liberty: Parent of Science & Industry
The May 31-Jun2, 1999 Goldberg auction had an NGC-62 as Lot 718 at $165,000. It looks like a different one from the NGC-64 and has no pedigree listed.
I would guess the current Ex-Garrett may be the 64 listed in 1998 pop. May take someone with inside knowledge to know if it was ever in any different holder before that, but got removed from any pop listings.
Also interesting on this Ex-Garrett coin is its raw listing in the Paramount session of Auction '84 as AU-58 Obverse/Unc-60 Reverse. The cataloger said of 8 coins they had seen, it was the second finest. It sold for $79,750 there compared to $150,000 in the 1979 Garrett sale. Seems like a lot of rarities have been bringing around 5 to 10 times their late 70's to 80's prices. Will be interesting to see what it goes for if it sells.
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interesting stuff.
Liberty: Parent of Science & Industry
Good point on the 1998 NGC-64 possibly being the current PCGS-65 especially since there is now a pop of 2 NGC-64's as listed with the lot description.
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I think this coin was the bargain of the auction.
<< <i>Undoubtably a beautiful and very rare coin, but it ain't MS, judging by the pics. Looks like obvious wear on many of the highpoint areas. >>
Many who think this coin isn't Unc. need to rethink they're grading skills.
It appeared to me to look like many Capped Bust Halves that have some minor highpoint rub, yet are still UNC.
Any rub you see isn't from circulation IMO.
This design was not Reich's best effort as an engraver, but I would still like an example of the type someday.
<< <i>I think this coin was the bargain of the auction.
<< <i>Undoubtably a beautiful and very rare coin, but it ain't MS, judging by the pics. Looks like obvious wear on many of the highpoint areas. >>
Many who think this coin isn't Unc. need to rethink they're grading skills.
It appeared to me to look like many Capped Bust Halves that have some minor highpoint rub, yet are still UNC.
Any rub you see isn't from circulation IMO. >>
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The cataloger of this coin for Auction '84 in July 1984 (guessing it was David Akers) said a similar thing:
"(In our opinion, this coin is "uncirculated" in the sense that it has never seen actual circulation. However, the obverse does show a little rub on the highest points, what the old-timers (correctly) called "cabinet friction.")"
This still appears to be a record auction price, but I thought it might go even higher compared to other rarities with similar numbers surviving. Not many have been auctioned in the past 30 or so years. More frequent appearances might lead to more interest and higher prices, kind of like seems to have happened with 1894-S dimes; 1927-D $20's; 1838-O 50c; 1854-S $2.50 and others.
"To Be Esteemed Be Useful" - 1792 Birch Cent --- "I personally think we developed language because of our deep need to complain." - Lily Tomlin