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PCcoinsPCcoins Posts: 3,354 ✭✭✭
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At least that's what the auction says. The toning looks legit, and very nice IMO.

1935 Texas Com. Half
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  • LotsoLuckLotsoLuck Posts: 3,786 ✭✭✭
    A beautiful coin without the toning. Wow!
  • TomBTomB Posts: 22,947 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I would bet that this coin gets bagged at NGC and PCGS 99 times out of 100 and I would agree with their decision, too, if i am interpreting the images correctly.
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  • PCcoinsPCcoins Posts: 3,354 ✭✭✭
    oh. Well, I believe your knowledge of toned coins is greater than mine Tom. But, its looks ok to me.
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  • FatManFatMan Posts: 8,977 ✭
    Never gets in top tier plastic. I bet it was tried.
  • ManorcourtmanManorcourtman Posts: 8,391 ✭✭✭✭✭
    AT imho. I'm very suspicious of the colorful toned edge. The toners I have all have dark/black toned edge areas.
  • PCcoinsPCcoins Posts: 3,354 ✭✭✭


    << <i>AT imho. I'm very suspicious of the colorful toned edge. The toners I have all have dark/black toned edge areas. >>



    I disagree with this statement, I have a few toners that were pulled from double mint sets with neon toning on the rims too. So it can happenimage
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  • nicetoning42107nicetoning42107 Posts: 1,162
    This is a wonderfully NT coin inside and out. Whether or not there is toning on the edge really doesn't swing me one way or the other and IMO doesn't swing the TPGs either in my experience. Interestingly I've seen coins with barely any toning on the faces, but the edge was loaded with toning.
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  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    That coin is AT.... Cheers, RickO
  • mommam17mommam17 Posts: 971 ✭✭✭
    I`ve seen the coin for sale before. I think it was on Ebay, a few years ago. I don`t think it will ever slab at PCGS or NGC.
  • mirabelamirabela Posts: 5,196 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'm inclined to guess AT. I don't buy the purples.
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  • dizzyfoxxdizzyfoxx Posts: 9,823 ✭✭✭
    Wrap a top tier slab around that thing and it sells for 3x-4x the current asking price IMO.
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  • tresgatostresgatos Posts: 531 ✭
    I dunno....that scratch bothers me....
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  • CoinJunkieCoinJunkie Posts: 8,772 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Wrap a top tier slab around that thing and it sells for 3x-4x the current asking price IMO. >>


    Which is why it's almost certainly AT. The seller is obviously not a newbie.
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  • ShortgapbobShortgapbob Posts: 2,332 ✭✭✭
    Probably wouldn't grade at present, but I have seen coins that look much more hokie in TPG holders.
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  • commoncents05commoncents05 Posts: 10,099 ✭✭✭
    Looks like nice, thick, original toning.

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  • truthtellertruthteller Posts: 1,240 ✭✭
    This is the notorious "crackled toning" that PCGS used to grade early on but has since dismissed as AT circa 1991-92. It will not grade at PCGS or NGC



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  • braddickbraddick Posts: 25,086 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>This is the notorious "crackled toning" that PCGS used to grade early on but has since dismissed as AT circa 1991-92. It will not grade at PCGS or NGC



    TRUTH >>

    But used to grade with SEGS.
  • JRoccoJRocco Posts: 14,277 ✭✭✭✭✭
    If you really look at the pics they are telling you the coin is not naturally toned.
    Some coins are just plain "Interesting"
  • nicknut12nicknut12 Posts: 176
    Looks AT to my eye.

    AT all day long.

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  • GeminiGemini Posts: 3,085 ✭
    I don't like the broken toning and is flat looking lacking irredescence or flash.
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  • BlindedByEgoBlindedByEgo Posts: 10,754 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I say nay.

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  • richardshipprichardshipp Posts: 5,647 ✭✭✭
    IMO it's AT but it really doesn't matter because I also think that IF it could've gotten into a top TPG slab it would have already been there.
  • JCMhoustonJCMhouston Posts: 5,306 ✭✭✭
    My personal feeling, on a $995 colorfully toned coin not in a top tier slab, there is probably a reason.
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  • bushmaster8bushmaster8 Posts: 5,616 ✭
    AT. There were a whole bunch of commems done this way. You can find them in earlier holders. Don't crack 'em out!! They get bagged nowadays.
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  • SeattleSlammerSeattleSlammer Posts: 10,121 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Wow, that one really is a tougher call........the color progression would be unusually well-done for an AT coin.........yet I agree that it doesn't make much sense to sell it raw at a fraction of what it would cost in a good slab.

    This one has always been my favorite Texas (from Polaris archives)....some similar colors to the coin in question.
    image

  • dizzyfoxxdizzyfoxx Posts: 9,823 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Wow, that one really is a tougher call........the color progression would be unusually well-done for an AT coin.........yet I agree that it doesn't make much sense to sell it raw at a fraction of what it would cost in a good slab.

    This one has always been my favorite Texas (from Polaris archives)....some similar colors to the coin in question.
    image >>



    Now THAT'S a keeper!
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  • CoinJunkieCoinJunkie Posts: 8,772 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Slammer, that is a very pretty Texas, but I don't see much resemblance to the one on eBay.

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  • SeattleSlammerSeattleSlammer Posts: 10,121 ✭✭✭✭✭
    If you look closely, it has a similar color progression, but not nearly as complete.
    Again, I'm not saying that the OP coin is NT....just saying that it would be more of a challenge to get that look using AT methods.


  • jhdflajhdfla Posts: 3,030 ✭✭✭


    << <i>If you look closely, it has a similar color progression, but not nearly as complete.
    Again, I'm not saying that the OP coin is NT....just saying that it would be more of a challenge to get that look using AT methods. >>



    I think the color progression is completely different, yours has that complete "hard" look where the other one does not. And I agree with JCM that a coin with that much color would no doubt be in a slab by now. Of course JMHO...

    john

    Edited to say, I remember buying an Oregon in the 1980 FUN sale that was toned that way way before TPG's and had someone explain to me after I bought it that it was AT. Really ticked me off too, I thought the coin was so cool, but I think I learned a little from that experience.
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  • GoldenEyeNumismaticsGoldenEyeNumismatics Posts: 13,187 ✭✭✭
    I happen to believe the color is real.
  • darktonedarktone Posts: 8,437 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>This is the notorious "crackled toning" that PCGS used to grade early on but has since dismissed as AT circa 1991-92. It will not grade at PCGS or NGC



    TRUTH >>

    But used to grade with SEGS. >>



    I totally agree this is the "crackled Toning". If you have never seen it in person it's like a crackled coating not toning. They look neat but are in no way NT.
  • kazkaz Posts: 9,342 ✭✭✭✭✭
    On the side with Liberty, it appears to me that a liquid was applied and then wiped off- it looks like it settled into the deeper recesses of the design. Also the colors seem to be in sharply demarcated bands, not in a mellow gradation like the PCGS example.
  • rainbowroosierainbowroosie Posts: 4,875 ✭✭✭✭
    The PCGS coin is superb; the raw coin is a POS ATATATATATATATATATATAT 100% AT --- I really mean it is AT...image


    PS: it is AT
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  • NicNic Posts: 3,438 ✭✭✭✭✭
    AT .

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  • truthtellertruthteller Posts: 1,240 ✭✭
    SeattleSlammer, is your Texas for sale?


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