<< <i>Why waste anymore time with this nut, just tell him one more time that payment is due and his coins will be return to him along with the coin that he brought from you if he pays and ignore him after that. In the end one negative does not mean anything. >>
Do not send the bozo ANYTHING ... Especially the coin he did not pay for .
Everyone should CONTACT Ebay customer support and give support to the seller on this one .... Make it like a "class action" EMAILING to them because this is simply idiotic
<< <i>May as well as under postal laws it is a gift. >>
It's not a gift. You should have sent it back already. >>
Bingo, too many people think that receiving something they didn't order is a gift. It isn't. It's when you are sent something by a business and they are trying to charge you for it.
<< <i>Wow. Out the buyer so ebay sellers can block him. >>
That is smoeone I don't ever want to deal with
Since you never approved of this method of payment, you should consider the dansco packing material and then accept the $.08 sent as partial payment. Send images of the payment recieved and a request for the balance of payment $224.92 to the buyer and eBay.
<< <i>This is so sad it is quite nearly funny. I look forward to seeing how this one is resolved!! Long live Ebay. >>
Longacre, I am at a loss that you could think this only rates "quite nearly funny". It is absolutely hilarious - especially because it did not happen to me.
Just don't respond to him anymore and block his emails. He can't do a chargeback on you since you did not use paypal. Let the rest playout with ebay and face the fact you will get a neg but I am sure you will be able to get it removed.
<< <i>I have no idea what ebay is thinking in reversing the unpaid strike but I can tell you for sure, there is no one there to talk to. Powerseller chat has not been helpful at all and there is no chance I send him this dime. It is amazing to me how totally overboard ebay is going to "protect" buyers these day. If you can go out and buy a coin, send the seller some crap and then not pay, get a strike overturned and then threaten to leave negative feedback for not sending a coin you did not pay for and ebay supports you there is something really wrong. >>
My decision to quit selling on eBay a year and a half ago is looking better and better, every day.
Since he did not pay you, start ignoring him. Put the coins in a drawer, and move on. More replies to his messages is a waste of your time, and returning the coins will only open up another can of worms, IMHO.
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<< <i>Why waste anymore time with this nut, just tell him one more time that payment is due and his coins will be return to him along with the coin that he brought from you if he pays and ignore him after that. In the end one negative does not mean anything. >>
funny, that is exactly what I told him is my "final response"
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I would have sent his coins back to him and requested full payment for your coin. Were there any small print in his best offer to you? There is a spot that enables best offers to put some type of alternate guidelines. Hope this works out for you!
<< <i>It's not a gift. You should have sent it back already. >>
Nonsense. While not a gift, it is unsolicited. Seller has no duty to incur expense whatsoever to return those pennies. While it is possible that the buyer is incompetent, that is highly unlikely IMO. Buyer seems to know how to navigate through the bay and paypal and the post office. Unless it is confirmed that the buyer is incompetent, I would simply advise buyer that the pennies will be returned upon receipt of full payment for the coin won pursuant to the terms of the auction plus a surcharge to cover the shipping costs. I would also impose a deadline, after which I would treat the pennies as akin to liquidated damages and keep them as a conversation piece to share this incredible story.
If ebay doesn't allow barter, then they should recognize that he only sent you 8 cents face value or however many cents were in the album. It's a partial payment.
Return his coins, tell him to sell his crappy large cents himself.
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Just about the strangest ebay story I ever heard of. thanks for keeping us utd (and variously in stitches, or shaking our heads and thinking "thank g*d it wasn't me).
I checked paypal only on my auctions and i had 3 different people ask if i will take another form of payment. I replied sure, cash, check, money order, cashiers checks, goats, pigs, cows and chickens.
I am waiting on 2 payments now, wonder what i am about to recieve in the mail.
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I checked paypal only on my auctions and i had 3 different people ask if i will take another form of payment. I replied sure, cash, check, money order, cashiers checks, goats, pigs, cows and chickens.
I am waiting on 2 payments now, wonder what i am about to recieve in the mail. >>
Serves you right for not specifying "mating pair" as a qualifier for livestock.
<< <i>This would be more belivable if you would out the person.And keep other sellers from going thru this grief. >>
That is a bit strange isn't it...... >>
Yes. It is strange. I can see no good reason why the buyer isn't outed and I'm beginning to question the veracity of this story.
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<< <i>Take the neg, it's no big deal, and yo get to commment on the complaint anyway. >>
FYI: If you add a comment to your feedback after he leaves you a neg it gives him the opportunity to then add another comment after yours (again nasty and ugly). You can not add a comment after that one.
Feedback is extremely one-sided now. As a seller you are completely at their mercy.
I don't understand why some are saying the OP should offer to sell the high bidder's large cents and then deduct what they bring from the total cost of his coin. Why should he have to do more legwork just to get the coin he already sold paid for? Just send the man his coins back, at his cost mind you, agree to the auction being mutually withdrawn and move on.
Email him one more time for payment, and if he refuses to pay, file an NPB and go from there. If Ebay doesn't intervene on your behalf (and they probably won't), keep the large cents as compensation for the neg you will receive. Don't waste any more time with this clown.
<< <i>Ask ebay if you can pay listing fees using those coins, since they think they're worth $200 tell them you'll accept it from that guy if they'll accept it from you.
It's ridiculus!!!!! >>
I agree, this is ridiculous. Send the to e-bay as payment since they are telling you that you have to accept them as payment. Otherwise just keep at it until you can get someone on the phone that will listen. You should have a dedicated powerseller rep that can help you. Maybe Russ can point you to the right number?
Ebay does not want to respond. I have sent them several emails ( as a powerseller I should get 24-48 response) and they have not responded at all.
They reversed the unpaid strike and I can not refile it.
I have called a few times but can not get to a live person, just recordings of what to do ( none of which apply)
The buyer now wants me to just return the coins he sent me but refuses to pay for the coin, he is sending me 5+ emails a day. I told him to stop making threats and just leave the neg already.
I am hoping to hear something from Ebay.
Those who think this post is a waste of time, I do agree it is but nothing compared to the waste of time and energy I have and continue to spend on this issue.
On a another note there is a board member who purchased a great coin and should have it tomorrow.
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I cannot imagine why people put themselves through all this fleaBay nonsense and come here and complain about it, then run back to fleaBay for more.
Seen this with the OP, and then Frankcoins. Come on guys, get a life and get over fleaBay. I stopped selling there in June. I am done with it. Their feedback policy coupled with paypoo only rules and then the ignominy of trying to talk to a live person in fleaBay spells doom for the once vaunted online fleamarket.
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<< <i>Why waste anymore time with this nut, just tell him one more time that payment is due and his coins will be return to him along with the coin that he brought from you if he pays and ignore him after that. In the end one negative does not mean anything. >>
Do not send the bozo ANYTHING ... Especially the coin he did not pay for .
Everyone should CONTACT Ebay customer support and give support to the seller on this one .... Make it like a "class action" EMAILING to them because this is simply idiotic
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<< <i>May as well as under postal laws it is a gift. >>
It's not a gift. You should have sent it back already. >>
Bingo, too many people think that receiving something they didn't order is a gift. It isn't.
It's when you are sent something by a business and they are trying to charge you for it.
I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment
<< <i>Wow. Out the buyer so ebay sellers can block him. >>
Since you never approved of this method of payment, you should consider the dansco packing material and then accept the $.08 sent as partial payment. Send images of the payment recieved and a request for the balance of payment $224.92 to the buyer and eBay.
<< <i>This is so sad it is quite nearly funny. I look forward to seeing how this one is resolved!! Long live Ebay. >>
Longacre, I am at a loss that you could think this only rates "quite nearly funny". It is absolutely hilarious - especially because it did not happen to me.
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<< <i>I have no idea what ebay is thinking in reversing the unpaid strike but I can tell you for sure, there is no one there to talk to.
Powerseller chat has not been helpful at all and there is no chance I send him this dime.
It is amazing to me how totally overboard ebay is going to "protect" buyers these day. If you can go out and buy a coin, send the seller some crap and then not pay, get a strike overturned and then threaten to leave negative feedback for not sending a coin you did not pay for and ebay supports you there is something really wrong. >>
My decision to quit selling on eBay a year and a half ago is looking better and better, every day.
Since he did not pay you, start ignoring him. Put the coins in a drawer, and move on. More replies to his messages is a waste of your time, and returning the coins will only open up another can of worms, IMHO.
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<< <i>Why waste anymore time with this nut, just tell him one more time that payment is due and his coins will be return to him along with the coin that he brought from you if he pays and ignore him after that. In the end one negative does not mean anything. >>
funny, that is exactly what I told him is my "final response"
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<< <i>It's not a gift. You should have sent it back already. >>
Nonsense. While not a gift, it is unsolicited. Seller has no duty to incur expense whatsoever to return those pennies. While it is possible that the buyer is incompetent, that is highly unlikely IMO. Buyer seems to know how to navigate through the bay and paypal and the post office. Unless it is confirmed that the buyer is incompetent, I would simply advise buyer that the pennies will be returned upon receipt of full payment for the coin won pursuant to the terms of the auction plus a surcharge to cover the shipping costs. I would also impose a deadline, after which I would treat the pennies as akin to liquidated damages and keep them as a conversation piece to share this incredible story.
Return his coins, tell him to sell his crappy large cents himself.
If he pays by money order maybe I would send the coin otherwise no way especially a Paypal payment.
A neg in this case would be tolerable.
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<< <i>Unreal. Who do we block???? >>
Who do we block???
Joe
...or, since this set has a provenance now, send it to Heritage.
Where does it say in ebay's rules and legal guidelines that a buyer can pay with trading items????
Its just insane crazy!
<< <i>OK so did this really happen or were you just pulling our legs >>
I'm starting to wonder myself
Take the negative feedback and forget about that part of it....it certainly won't cost you any buyers in this forum........
In the meantime you are in the driver's seat because you have this guy's (unsolicited) large cents. Make him come after you to get them back.
this guy has been one royal pain in the butt
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<< <i>Had he said nothing I would have already just returned the coins which I will end up doing anyways >>
Keep in mind that if he does not open the package, he can mark "REFUSED" in it, hand it back to the clerk, and it will be sent back to you.
Come to think of it, that's what you could have done in the first place.
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<< <i>Had he said nothing I would have already just returned the coins which I will end up doing anyways >>
Keep in mind that if he does not open the package, he can mark "REFUSED" in it, hand it back to the clerk, and it will be sent back to you.
Come to think of it, that's what you could have done in the first place. >>
did not know what it was and sent with delivery confirmation so it was just sitting in my po box
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I checked paypal only on my auctions and i had 3 different people ask if i will take another form of payment. I replied sure, cash, check, money order, cashiers checks, goats, pigs, cows and chickens.
I am waiting on 2 payments now, wonder what i am about to recieve in the mail.
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<< <i>This is funny but i may be in real trouble.
I checked paypal only on my auctions and i had 3 different people ask if i will take another form of payment. I replied sure, cash, check, money order, cashiers checks, goats, pigs, cows and chickens.
I am waiting on 2 payments now, wonder what i am about to recieve in the mail.
Serves you right for not specifying "mating pair" as a qualifier for livestock.
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Take the neg, it's no big deal, and yo get to commment on the complaint anyway.
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<< <i>Tell the guy you will send the coin as soon as he leaves you a glowing feedback.
Feedback extortion. Why stoop down levels?
I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment
<< <i>This would be more belivable if you would out the person.And keep other sellers from going thru this grief. >>
That is a bit strange isn't it......
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<< <i>This would be more belivable if you would out the person.And keep other sellers from going thru this grief. >>
That is a bit strange isn't it......
Yes. It is strange. I can see no good reason why the buyer isn't outed and I'm beginning to question the veracity of this story.
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<< <i>I'm beginning to question the veracity of this story. >>
True or not, this thread has wasted enough of my time.
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<< <i>Take the neg, it's no big deal, and yo get to commment on the complaint anyway. >>
FYI: If you add a comment to your feedback after he leaves you a neg it gives him the opportunity to then add another comment after yours (again nasty and ugly). You can not add a comment after that one.
Feedback is extremely one-sided now. As a seller you are completely at their mercy.
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<< <i>Ask ebay if you can pay listing fees using those coins, since they think they're worth $200 tell them you'll accept it from that guy if they'll accept it from you.
It's ridiculus!!!!! >>
I agree, this is ridiculous. Send the to e-bay as payment since they are telling you that you have to accept them as payment. Otherwise just keep at it until you can get someone on the phone that will listen. You should have a dedicated powerseller rep that can help you. Maybe Russ can point you to the right number?
They reversed the unpaid strike and I can not refile it.
I have called a few times but can not get to a live person, just recordings of what to do ( none of which apply)
The buyer now wants me to just return the coins he sent me but refuses to pay for the coin, he is sending me 5+ emails a day. I told him to stop making threats and just leave the neg already.
I am hoping to hear something from Ebay.
Those who think this post is a waste of time, I do agree it is but nothing compared to the waste of time and energy I have and continue to spend on this issue.
On a another note there is a board member who purchased a great coin and should have it tomorrow.
Buying top quality Seated Dimes in Gem BU and Proof.
Buying great coins - monster eye appeal only.
Seen this with the OP, and then Frankcoins. Come on guys, get a life and get over fleaBay. I stopped selling there in June. I am done with it. Their feedback policy coupled with paypoo only rules and then the ignominy of trying to talk to a live person in fleaBay spells doom for the once vaunted online fleamarket.