He has been NASTY!!!!!!!!!! But I can promise you he will come back down to Earth soon enough... there is a cure for premature Cy Young thoughts called July and August!
<< <i>He has been NASTY!!!!!!!!!! But I can promise you he will come back down to Earth soon enough... there is a cure for premature Cy Young thoughts called July and August! >>
I'm not saying Lee will win the Cy Young but it's not like he was some stiff in the past.....he did win 18 games in 2005 and 14 in 2004 and 2006. He was hurt at the beginning of last year and never got totally healthy....I think he will win at least 15-20 games....
He is really hurting the team right now. If he is still hitting in the low .200s in late june, I think the Indians should really look at finding a hitter before the trade deadline.
OR, I know a large headed of/DH that's still looking for work. His daddy played for the indians too.
"The Sipe market is ridiculous right now" CDsNuts, 1/9/15
They showed two very simple things that Hafner is doing differently with his stance and his hands. duh. please someone show him the damn tape. otherwise sign bonds and install him at DH... OR trade for Jim Thome bring him home to finish out his career; he always heats up in JUNE
<< <i>I wish Travis Hafner would sell his soul....and regain his swing! >>
WTF was Wedge thinking by having Hafner pinch hit with the bases juiced?
that was some powerful rap he put on that ball. Did it make it past the dirt surrounding home plate?
I really believe Hafner should go. >>
Wedge seems to have lapses in judgement this year. Remember when Paul Byrd was shutting down the Red Sox through 8 innings and only 88 or so pitches? Wedge then yanks Byrd, and then the Sox win it in the 9th. The first thing Jerry Remy said when Byrd did not come out for the 9th was that "Wedge was doing the Red Sox a BIG favor."
here's some pics of our daughter from the Tribe/NYY game when they were in Cleveland a week or 2 ago.....
Got to the field just before 5:30 like I've always done and find out that they now open the gates for the lower reserve (our seats) earlier than that. So all kinds of people were already down by the bullpens and in place to snag BP balls.
Katie and I went over and waited until they opened the rest of the park and then went down near against the field on the lower RF side. As usual the opposing pitchers were there (no Joba, Mariano, etc..) warming up and goofing off. One of them (#34) had a ball and was walking in our direction. I waved my glove above Katie's head and caught his attention. He says "You're going to give it to her, right?". I tell him it's my daughter and he tosses me the ball and makes her day!
I will say that from what I observed that the NYY's are some of the most fan attentive (as far as handing out balls) that I've seen there at the games and they certainly made sure that the balls went to young kids.
It was a good game and we had a good time. She danced when they played music and booed for Arod and Jeter and when Giambi hit his HR's because a lot of people were and she could hear them. She soaked me for a hot dog, peanuts, smoothie, and a T-shirt.
I heard that Lee was injured in last year's spring training and wasn't able to get the training the coaching staff knew he needed and as a result he suffered. This year he was healthy in spring and you can see the results.
Cleveland is among the best teams in the bigs at scouting players, right up there with Oakland, Florida, and Tampa, and the results are definitely showing.
Cute pics Goose. I can't wait till my daughter is old enough to take to games. Actually, we did just take her to her first Gator Baseball game the other week; but it'll be really cool when she's old enough to really appreciate & enjoy it (she's just 6 months old now).
<< <i>.......But I can promise you he will come back down to Earth soon enough... there is a cure for premature Cy Young thoughts called July and August! >>
<< <i>.......But I can promise you he will come back down to Earth soon enough... there is a cure for premature Cy Young thoughts called July and August! >>
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I agree, back on May 8th I predicted he would win 15-20...now if he doesn't blow out his arm he could be the first Indians pitcher with 20 wins since Gaylord Perry.....or at least I beleive it was Perry who did it last.
Lee has been one of the few bright spots for Cleveland this year.......along with Grady
Goose, are you from the Cleveland area??? just curious I live out in Parma.
The Indians, as a team, play different when he's on the mound. >>
Goose sorry I didn't respond quicker....been busy with my kids, softball and summer basketball have me running all over the place.....glad to hear from another buckeye....did you ever venture to the Beldon Village Holiday Inn show in the past??? used to set up there for many years...until last spring when it got to be too much with the kids.
<< <i>no reliever who comes in for one inning and gets a bogus stat like a save (the ones these days are given out like candy) deserves the cy young. >>
agree!!!! plus Lee easily could have 3-4 more wins if not for the Indians brilliant relievers.....just last weekend they blew a four run lead for him...
<< <i>Another win for Lee, who now stands at 16-2. Still, I think he might lose the Cy Young to that Rodriguez guy.
/s/ JackWESQ >>
I don't like the concept that a guy who has yet to pitch even 50 innings could be considered a Cy Young Award candidate. He's on the best team in baseball and Lee is certainly not.
This probably won't happen but what's the best record for a 20 game winner with regards to losses versus wins.....seem to recall Guidry one year being something like 25-4 is that the best??? I know that Roy Face when 18-1 as a reliever which I think is the best ever but what about 20 game winners?? anyone know? would be great for Lee to be 20-2 but like I said probably won't happen.
For a pitcher who won at least twenty (20), below are the best records:
1. Ron Guidry, 25-3; 2. Preacher Roe, 22-3; and 3. Roger Clemens, 20-3. 4. David Cone, 20-3.
Most wins with two (2) losses? Greg Maddux, 19-2. And, like you said, most wins with one (1) loss, Roy Face at 18-1 (though Face was a reliever; pitched in 57 games that season and started none.) And most wins with no losses? Tom Zachary, 12-0 in 1929 for, of course, the New York Yankees.
Ron Guidry was the unanimous Cy Young award winner the year he went 25-3 and came in second to Jim Rice in the MVP balloting (352 points to 291 points).
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/s/ JackWESQ
P.S. Cool avatar. I'm still looking for mine.
No way he can keep up much longer. And I'm a TRIBE fan.
CDsNuts, 1/9/15
<< <i>I wish Travis Hafner would sell his soul....and regain his swing! >>
WTF was Wedge thinking by having Hafner pinch hit with the bases juiced?
that was some powerful rap he put on that ball. Did it make it past the dirt surrounding home plate?
I really believe Hafner should go.
<< <i>He has been NASTY!!!!!!!!!! But I can promise you he will come back down to Earth soon enough... there is a cure for premature Cy Young thoughts called July and August! >>
I'm not saying Lee will win the Cy Young but it's not like he was some stiff in the past.....he did win 18 games in 2005 and 14 in 2004 and 2006. He was hurt at the beginning of last year and never got totally healthy....I think he will win at least 15-20 games....
<< <i>I really believe Hafner should go. >>
He is really hurting the team right now. If he is still hitting in the low .200s in late june, I think the Indians should really look at finding a hitter before the trade deadline.
OR, I know a large headed of/DH that's still looking for work. His daddy played for the indians too.
CDsNuts, 1/9/15
maybe you all just suck
JS
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<< <i>I wish Travis Hafner would sell his soul....and regain his swing! >>
WTF was Wedge thinking by having Hafner pinch hit with the bases juiced?
that was some powerful rap he put on that ball. Did it make it past the dirt surrounding home plate?
I really believe Hafner should go. >>
Wedge seems to have lapses in judgement this year. Remember when Paul Byrd was shutting down the Red Sox through 8 innings and only 88 or so pitches? Wedge then yanks Byrd, and then the Sox win it in the 9th. The first thing Jerry Remy said when Byrd did not come out for the 9th was that "Wedge was doing the Red Sox a BIG favor."
Therefore, he has not sold his soul to the devil IMO.
Got to the field just before 5:30 like I've always done and find out that they now open the gates for the lower reserve (our seats) earlier than that. So all kinds of people were already down by the bullpens and in place to snag BP balls.
Katie and I went over and waited until they opened the rest of the park and then went down near against the field on the lower RF side. As usual the opposing pitchers were there (no Joba, Mariano, etc..) warming up and goofing off. One of them (#34) had a ball and was walking in our direction. I waved my glove above Katie's head and caught his attention. He says "You're going to give it to her, right?". I tell him it's my daughter and he tosses me the ball and makes her day!
I will say that from what I observed that the NYY's are some of the most fan attentive (as far as handing out balls) that I've seen there at the games and they certainly made sure that the balls went to young kids.
It was a good game and we had a good time. She danced when they played music and booed for Arod and Jeter and when Giambi hit his HR's because a lot of people were and she could hear them. She soaked me for a hot dog, peanuts, smoothie, and a T-shirt.
Cleveland is among the best teams in the bigs at scouting players, right up there with Oakland, Florida, and Tampa, and the results are definitely showing.
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CDsNuts, 1/9/15
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/s/ JackWESQ
<< <i>So what happens first? A Cliff Lee loss or a Barry Zito win? Tough call.
/s/ JackWESQ >>
or a Eric Gagne save??
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<< <i>So what happens first? A Cliff Lee loss or a Barry Zito win? Tough call.
/s/ JackWESQ >>
or a Eric Gagne save?? >>
OOPS...my bad...didn't realize he already had 9 saves...my remark was based on recent performance....
Comeback player of the year and Cy Young?
CDsNuts, 1/9/15
<< <i>.......But I can promise you he will come back down to Earth soon enough... there is a cure for premature Cy Young thoughts called July and August! >>
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<< <i>.......But I can promise you he will come back down to Earth soon enough... there is a cure for premature Cy Young thoughts called July and August! >>
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I agree, back on May 8th I predicted he would win 15-20...now if he doesn't blow out his arm he could be the first Indians pitcher with 20 wins since Gaylord Perry.....or at least I beleive it was Perry who did it last.
Lee has been one of the few bright spots for Cleveland this year.......along with Grady
Goose, are you from the Cleveland area??? just curious I live out in Parma.
al.
I have tix for next Weds game.
The Indians, as a team, play different when he's on the mound.
CDsNuts, 1/9/15
/s/ JackWESQ
<< <i>I'm down near Mansfield.
I have tix for next Weds game.
The Indians, as a team, play different when he's on the mound. >>
Goose sorry I didn't respond quicker....been busy with my kids, softball and summer basketball have me running all over the place.....glad to hear from another buckeye....did you ever venture to the Beldon Village Holiday Inn show in the past??? used to set up there for many years...until last spring when it got to be too much with the kids.
al.
<< <i>no reliever who comes in for one inning and gets a bogus stat like a save (the ones these days are given out like candy) deserves the cy young. >>
agree!!!! plus Lee easily could have 3-4 more wins if not for the Indians brilliant relievers.....just last weekend they blew a four run lead for him...
/s/ JackWESQ
<< <i>Another win for Lee, who now stands at 16-2. Still, I think he might lose the Cy Young to that Rodriguez guy.
/s/ JackWESQ >>
I don't like the concept that a guy who has yet to pitch even 50 innings could be considered a Cy Young Award candidate. He's on the best team in baseball and Lee is certainly not.
1. Ron Guidry, 25-3;
2. Preacher Roe, 22-3; and
3. Roger Clemens, 20-3.
4. David Cone, 20-3.
Most wins with two (2) losses? Greg Maddux, 19-2. And, like you said, most wins with one (1) loss, Roy Face at 18-1 (though Face was a reliever; pitched in 57 games that season and started none.) And most wins with no losses? Tom Zachary, 12-0 in 1929 for, of course, the New York Yankees.
/s/ JackWESQ
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<< <i>It's early but Cliff is already on his way to victory #18. 5-0 Indians!!!!! >>
I should have kept my mouth shut...it's now 5-3
#18.
I got 2 tix for next Friday nite I'm thinking about selling.
Also, if Grady gets hot he has a shot at 40/40.
CDsNuts, 1/9/15
19-2
CDsNuts, 1/9/15
I traded my Friday nite tix for Saturday nite tix. Asdrubal bobblehead nite!
/s/ JackWESQ