I am now convinced that Cliff Lee has sold his soul to the devil

yankeeno7 · May 7, 2008 9:56AM

Thats all.

JackWESQ · May 7, 2008 9:58AM

I believe it. Of course, he's not the first. Just look at the resumes of Michael Jordan and Tiger Woods.

/s/ JackWESQ

P.S. Cool avatar. I'm still looking for mine.

perkdog · May 7, 2008 10:01AM

He has been NASTY!!!!!!!!!! But I can promise you he will come back down to Earth soon enough... there is a cure for premature Cy Young thoughts called July and August!

Goot · May 7, 2008 10:07AM

This years Jeremy Bonderman???

DavidPuddy · May 7, 2008 10:28AM

He was in the minors almost all of 07. 0.81 ERA! Unreal.
No way he can keep up much longer. And I'm a TRIBE fan.

fandango · May 7, 2008 11:15AM

did you see the pine tar on his fingers? i was watching the yankee game 2nite and i definately saw something on his hand in the 6th inning!!!!

BobaFett72 · May 7, 2008 1:10PM

I wish Travis Hafner would sell his soul....and regain his swing!

goose3 · May 7, 2008 9:49PM

<< I wish Travis Hafner would sell his soul....and regain his swing! >>

WTF was Wedge thinking by having Hafner pinch hit with the bases juiced?

that was some powerful rap he put on that ball. Did it make it past the dirt surrounding home plate?

I really believe Hafner should go.

alnavman · May 8, 2008 4:08AM

<< He has been NASTY!!!!!!!!!! But I can promise you he will come back down to Earth soon enough... there is a cure for premature Cy Young thoughts called July and August! >>

I'm not saying Lee will win the Cy Young but it's not like he was some stiff in the past.....he did win 18 games in 2005 and 14 in 2004 and 2006. He was hurt at the beginning of last year and never got totally healthy....I think he will win at least 15-20 games....

DavidPuddy · May 8, 2008 11:12AM

<< I really believe Hafner should go. >>

He is really hurting the team right now. If he is still hitting in the low .200s in late june, I think the Indians should really look at finding a hitter before the trade deadline.

OR, I know a large headed of/DH that's still looking for work. His daddy played for the indians too.

BobaFett72 · May 8, 2008 12:41PM

They showed two very simple things that Hafner is doing differently with his stance and his hands. duh. please someone show him the damn tape. otherwise sign bonds and install him at DH... OR trade for Jim Thome

bring him home to finish out his career; he always heats up in JUNE

joestalin · May 8, 2008 1:54PM

I love it, when Yankee fan is shown the woodshed they go kicking and screaming..."he had pine tar he had PINE TAR"

maybe you all just suck

JS

Connecticoin · May 8, 2008 9:03PM

<< 

<< I wish Travis Hafner would sell his soul....and regain his swing! >>

WTF was Wedge thinking by having Hafner pinch hit with the bases juiced?

that was some powerful rap he put on that ball. Did it make it past the dirt surrounding home plate?

I really believe Hafner should go. >>

Wedge seems to have lapses in judgement this year. Remember when Paul Byrd was shutting down the Red Sox through 8 innings and only 88 or so pitches? Wedge then yanks Byrd, and then the Sox win it in the 9th. The first thing Jerry Remy said when Byrd did not come out for the 9th was that "Wedge was doing the Red Sox a BIG favor."

edmundfitzgerald · May 8, 2008 9:24PM

Cliff Lee has not been signed by the Steinbrenners, nor is he pitching for the Yankees.
Therefore, he has not sold his soul to the devil IMO.

goose3 · May 9, 2008 9:09PM

here's some pics of our daughter from the Tribe/NYY game when they were in Cleveland a week or 2 ago.....

Got to the field just before 5:30 like I've always done and find out that they now open the gates for the lower reserve (our seats) earlier than that. So all kinds of people were already down by the bullpens and in place to snag BP balls.

Katie and I went over and waited until they opened the rest of the park and then went down near against the field on the lower RF side. As usual the opposing pitchers were there (no Joba, Mariano, etc..) warming up and goofing off. One of them (#34) had a ball and was walking in our direction. I waved my glove above Katie's head and caught his attention. He says "You're going to give it to her, right?". I tell him it's my daughter and he tosses me the ball and makes her day!

I will say that from what I observed that the NYY's are some of the most fan attentive (as far as handing out balls) that I've seen there at the games and they certainly made sure that the balls went to young kids.

It was a good game and we had a good time. She danced when they played music and booed for Arod and Jeter and when Giambi hit his HR's because a lot of people were and she could hear them. She soaked me for a hot dog, peanuts, smoothie, and a T-shirt.

gofast · May 11, 2008 6:12AM

I heard that Lee was injured in last year's spring training and wasn't able to get the training the coaching staff knew he needed and as a result he suffered. This year he was healthy in spring and you can see the results.

Cleveland is among the best teams in the bigs at scouting players, right up there with Oakland, Florida, and Tampa, and the results are definitely showing.

DavidPuddy · May 12, 2008 11:05AM

Another 9 innings tonight, 0 earned runs!
ERA 0.67

bigfische · May 12, 2008 2:13PM

I try trading him in my fantasy league after he shut down the yanks, maybe ill keep him around after all.

cardfan07 · May 13, 2008 4:16AM

Goose, #34 is Phil Hughes. Might have been his best pitch all night long.

JackWESQ · May 13, 2008 4:38AM

So what happens first? A Cliff Lee loss or a Barry Zito win? Tough call.

/s/ JackWESQ

alnavman · May 13, 2008 6:12AM

<< So what happens first? A Cliff Lee loss or a Barry Zito win? Tough call.

/s/ JackWESQ >>

or a Eric Gagne save??

alnavman · May 13, 2008 6:14AM

<< 

<< So what happens first? A Cliff Lee loss or a Barry Zito win? Tough call.

/s/ JackWESQ >>

or a Eric Gagne save?? >>

OOPS...my bad...didn't realize he already had 9 saves...my remark was based on recent performance....

MantleMarisFordBerra · May 14, 2008 12:04AM

Cute pics Goose. I can't wait till my daughter is old enough to take to games. Actually, we did just take her to her first Gator Baseball game the other week; but it'll be really cool when she's old enough to really appreciate & enjoy it (she's just 6 months old now).

DavidPuddy · July 20, 2008 12:59PM

Got his 13th win today. If he doesn't get injured he's going to have 21+ wins.

Comeback player of the year and Cy Young?

nam812 · July 20, 2008 1:05PM

<< .......But I can promise you he will come back down to Earth soon enough... there is a cure for premature Cy Young thoughts called July and August! >>

alnavman · July 21, 2008 9:56PM

<< 

<< .......But I can promise you he will come back down to Earth soon enough... there is a cure for premature Cy Young thoughts called July and August! >>

>>

I agree, back on May 8th I predicted he would win 15-20...now if he doesn't blow out his arm he could be the first Indians pitcher with 20 wins since Gaylord Perry.....or at least I beleive it was Perry who did it last.

Lee has been one of the few bright spots for Cleveland this year.......along with Grady

Goose, are you from the Cleveland area??? just curious I live out in Parma.

al.

goose3 · July 23, 2008 9:37PM

I'm down near Mansfield.

I have tix for next Weds game.

The Indians, as a team, play different when he's on the mound.

DavidPuddy · July 25, 2008 10:49AM

14-2 another win tonight......

BobaFett72 · July 25, 2008 12:01PM

he and Grady Sizemore are what keep me from slitting my wrists this season....

JackWESQ · August 4, 2008 3:02PM

What? No bump after picking up win No. 15? I'll guess he ends up with 20 wins and barely wins the Cy Young over that Rodriguez guy.

/s/ JackWESQ

BobaFett72 · August 4, 2008 9:02PM

no reliever who comes in for one inning and gets a bogus stat like a save (the ones these days are given out like candy) deserves the cy young.

alnavman · August 4, 2008 11:43PM

<< I'm down near Mansfield.

I have tix for next Weds game.

The Indians, as a team, play different when he's on the mound. >>

Goose sorry I didn't respond quicker....been busy with my kids, softball and summer basketball have me running all over the place.....glad to hear from another buckeye....did you ever venture to the Beldon Village Holiday Inn show in the past??? used to set up there for many years...until last spring when it got to be too much with the kids.

al.

alnavman · August 4, 2008 11:44PM

<< no reliever who comes in for one inning and gets a bogus stat like a save (the ones these days are given out like candy) deserves the cy young. >>

agree!!!! plus Lee easily could have 3-4 more wins if not for the Indians brilliant relievers.....just last weekend they blew a four run lead for him...

JackWESQ · August 10, 2008 7:01AM

Another win for Lee, who now stands at 16-2. Still, I think he might lose the Cy Young to that Rodriguez guy.

/s/ JackWESQ

edmundfitzgerald · August 10, 2008 8:21AM

I think Dice-K is 13-2 with an era under 3, but something drastic would have to happen for him to overcome Lee at this point.

BobaFett72 · August 10, 2008 11:32PM

K-rod doesnt deserve the cy young.

Barndog · August 10, 2008 11:37PM

<< Another win for Lee, who now stands at 16-2. Still, I think he might lose the Cy Young to that Rodriguez guy.

/s/ JackWESQ >>

I don't like the concept that a guy who has yet to pitch even 50 innings could be considered a Cy Young Award candidate. He's on the best team in baseball and Lee is certainly not.

alnavman · August 12, 2008 4:17AM

This probably won't happen but what's the best record for a 20 game winner with regards to losses versus wins.....seem to recall Guidry one year being something like 25-4 is that the best??? I know that Roy Face when 18-1 as a reliever which I think is the best ever but what about 20 game winners?? anyone know? would be great for Lee to be 20-2 but like I said probably won't happen.

JackWESQ · August 12, 2008 4:31AM

For a pitcher who won at least twenty (20), below are the best records:

1. Ron Guidry, 25-3;
2. Preacher Roe, 22-3; and
3. Roger Clemens, 20-3.
4. David Cone, 20-3.

Most wins with two (2) losses? Greg Maddux, 19-2. And, like you said, most wins with one (1) loss, Roy Face at 18-1 (though Face was a reliever; pitched in 57 games that season and started none.) And most wins with no losses? Tom Zachary, 12-0 in 1929 for, of course, the New York Yankees.

/s/ JackWESQ

alnavman · August 12, 2008 6:11AM

Wow, Guidry must have been something else that year....I assume he was Cy Young winner??

JackWESQ · August 12, 2008 7:13AM

Ron Guidry was the unanimous Cy Young award winner the year he went 25-3 and came in second to Jim Rice in the MVP balloting (352 points to 291 points).

/s/ JackWESQ

JackWESQ · August 15, 2008 10:58AM

Another win for Lee who is now 17-2 with a 2.43 ERA. Maybe Rodriguez has no chance to win the Cy Young.

/s/ JackWESQ

BobaFett72 · August 15, 2008 11:03AM

hopefully K-Fraud finishes out of the top 10

for Cy yOUng voting.

alnavman · August 21, 2008 2:22AM

It's early but Cliff is already on his way to victory #18. 5-0 Indians!!!!!

alnavman · August 21, 2008 2:31AM

<< It's early but Cliff is already on his way to victory #18. 5-0 Indians!!!!! >>

I should have kept my mouth shut...it's now 5-3

goose3 · August 21, 2008 4:02AM

10-3 now, so I'll go ahead and say it.

#18.

I got 2 tix for next Friday nite I'm thinking about selling.

DavidPuddy · August 21, 2008 4:14AM

Go Cliff!

Also, if Grady gets hot he has a shot at 40/40.

alnavman · August 22, 2008 1:57AM

Was Gaylord the last Indians 20 game winner???? and before that was it Dick Donovan??? just curioius

DavidPuddy · August 26, 2008 10:17AM

I'm going to call it.......

19-2

goose3 · August 26, 2008 11:09AM

Unbelievable.

I traded my Friday nite tix for Saturday nite tix. Asdrubal bobblehead nite!

JackWESQ · August 26, 2008 12:59PM

19-2. Hey, at least you know that when you sell your soul to the devil, you get your money's worth.

/s/ JackWESQ

I am now convinced that Cliff Lee has sold his soul to the devil

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