For you HTT enthusiasts, Stack's is offering the Dice & Hicks collection Monday, 7/28, prior to the ANA in Baltimore. It is in some respects even more important the the Ford collection.
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I'm not a hard times token expert by any means, in fact I know little about them in general, but I've always wondered about the Chicago token and whether or not the 1837 date is when the token was actually struck. Chicago was founded in 1833 (previously Ft. Dearborn) with a population of 350. In 1840, the population was 4000. I'd guess the population in 1837 was probably 2000-2500.
It seems improbable that someone would issue tokens in a "town" that small, especially a "western" town. Chicago was incorporated as a city in 1837. I think the token was probably struck in the 1850's with the 1837 commemorative date. I guess it could probably be narrowed down by looking at Chicago busines directories from the period. Does anyone know what the Rulau book says about the token?
<< <i>For you HTT enthusiasts, Stack's is offering the Dice & Hicks collection Monday, 7/28, prior to the ANA in Baltimore. It is in some respects even more important the the Ford collection. >>
Julian Thanks!
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<< <i>For you HTT enthusiasts, Stack's is offering the Dice & Hicks collection Monday, 7/28, prior to the ANA in Baltimore. It is in some respects even more important the the Ford collection. >>
This auction hammered some intense final bids!
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<< <i>For you HTT enthusiasts, Stack's is offering the Dice & Hicks collection Monday, 7/28, prior to the ANA in Baltimore. It is in some respects even more important the the Ford collection. >>
This auction hammered some intense final bids! >>
You can say that again......dang!
Stefanie
Rulau notes:
"In 1846, and until the outbreak of the Civil War, Charleston was one of the principal slave marts in America. It's auction houses thrived on the sale of Negroes and other property. These slave-related pieces have become very popular recently, thus causing a dramatic price increase"
<< <i>That one is totally cool. What's with the flower-shaped countermarks? >>
I was speaking to Savoyspecial and he looked it up and found no matches for the counterstamp. He also said that the dies do not match his 3rd edition book either. It may appear that the obverse die was from one particular token and reverse from another.
HOUCKS PANACEA , the famous "snake medicine" of it's day. Here is a little more background from an article I published in the John Reich Journal for December 2006 (Vol. 17/3 pg. 28).
HOUCKS / PANACEA / BALTIMORE
The coins found with this countermark are one of the most popular and sought after counterstamps, as they are part of the “Hard Times” token series and are generally found on Bust Half Dollars.
Dr. Jacob Houck came to Baltimore Maryland in 1828 and opened a dry goods business at 121 West Baltimore St. It wasn’t until 1834 that he began selling “Botanic Panacea” for $1.50 a bottle and advertised in the 1835 to 1842 business directories.
Proported to cure almost all ills including: Dyspepsin, loss of appetite, indigestion, inflamation of the stomach, heartburn, diarrhea, dysentory or flux, piles, fistola, obstructed monstruation, ague and fever, bilious or remittent fever, typhus fever, scarlet fever, small pox, St. Anthoney's fire, asthma, pleurisy, measeles, yellow fever, wind on the stomach or bowels, cholera morbus, consuption, influenza, colds, coughs, inflammation of the chest, palsy, gout, rheumatism, whooping cough, croup, dropsy, rickets, diseases of the liver, jaundice, difficulty of making urine, hysterics, mercurial and venereal diseases, ulcers, sores, etc. (The main ingredients were most likely alcohol or opium, cocaine or some such other "cure")
This Panacea was sold at various business address locations including 16 Hanover St. (which was listed in a full page ad in Matchett’s Baltimore Director in 1842) up until the 1850’s. Henry T. Houck became proprietor of the firm in 1851 and in later years probably licensed it for others to sell, as there is an 1855 advertisement in a Nashville Tennessee directory by a A.G. Goodlet for “Houck’s Improved Panacea & Goodlet’s Vegetable Lineament” listed at No. 29 1/2 Cherry St. Nashville Tennessee.
And here is an original bottle that the elixer was sold in...
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Well you guys have me beat grade wise when it comes to Hard Times Tokens. Most of my common ones are EF and AU. But I do have some rare ones. I collect the political pieces, but not the store cards.
Low #1, the "aged head" sub variety. R-7 (estimated population 4 to 12 known)
Low 7, R-6, (estimated population 13 to 30 known) I think this is among the better ones known.
Low 57, R-6, (estimated population 13 to 30 known) This was one of John Ford's "spares." He had a better one, but this the best example of this token that I have ever seen.
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Wonderful piece. Also, great idea for a thread. Ill have to go dig out some of mine and take some pictures I see .
Also looking for VF-EF Seated halves.
Sell me your old auction catalogs...
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Wonderful piece. Also, great idea for a thread. Ill have to go dig out some of mine and take some pictures I see . >>
Thanks... go take some pics!
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Can I post this one right after you mail it to me???
Oh well........I thought not So I will post this one.
Stefanie
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I firmly believe in numismatics as the world's greatest hobby, but recognize that this is a luxury and without collectors, we can all spend/melt our collections/inventories.
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It seems improbable that someone would issue tokens in a "town" that small, especially a "western" town. Chicago was incorporated as a city in 1837. I think the token was probably struck in the 1850's with the 1837 commemorative date. I guess it could probably be narrowed down by looking at Chicago busines directories from the period. Does anyone know what the Rulau book says about the token?
Dang, no 61's, 60's 58's but here's a 55
It's all downhill from there
Coin's for sale/trade.
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<< <i>For you HTT enthusiasts, Stack's is offering the Dice & Hicks collection Monday, 7/28, prior to the ANA in Baltimore. It is in some respects even more important the the Ford collection. >>
Julian Thanks!
Stefanie
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<< <i>For you HTT enthusiasts, Stack's is offering the Dice & Hicks collection Monday, 7/28, prior to the ANA in Baltimore. It is in some respects even more important the the Ford collection. >>
This auction hammered some intense final bids!
Commems and Early Type
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<< <i>For you HTT enthusiasts, Stack's is offering the Dice & Hicks collection Monday, 7/28, prior to the ANA in Baltimore. It is in some respects even more important the the Ford collection. >>
This auction hammered some intense final bids! >>
You can say that again......dang!
Stefanie
Rulau notes:
"In 1846, and until the outbreak of the Civil War, Charleston was one of the principal slave marts in America. It's auction houses thrived on the sale of Negroes and other property. These slave-related pieces have become very popular recently, thus causing a dramatic price increase"
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CoinsAreFun Toned Silver Eagle Proof Album
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Gallery Mint Museum, Ron Landis& Joe Rust, The beginnings of the Golden Dollar
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More CoinsAreFun Pictorials NGC
<< <i>That one is totally cool. What's with the flower-shaped countermarks? >>
I was speaking to Savoyspecial and he looked it up and found no matches for the counterstamp.
He also said that the dies do not match his 3rd edition book either.
It may appear that the obverse die was from one particular token and reverse from another.
Stefanie
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CoinsAreFun Toned Silver Eagle Proof Album
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Gallery Mint Museum, Ron Landis& Joe Rust, The beginnings of the Golden Dollar
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More CoinsAreFun Pictorials NGC
HOUCKS PANACEA , the famous "snake medicine" of it's day. Here is a little more background from an article I published in the John Reich Journal for December 2006 (Vol. 17/3 pg. 28).
HOUCKS / PANACEA / BALTIMORE
The coins found with this countermark are one of the most popular and sought after counterstamps, as they are part of the “Hard Times” token series and are generally found on Bust Half Dollars.
Dr. Jacob Houck came to Baltimore Maryland in 1828 and opened a dry goods business at 121 West Baltimore St. It wasn’t until 1834 that he began selling “Botanic Panacea” for $1.50 a bottle and advertised in the 1835 to 1842 business directories.
Proported to cure almost all ills including: Dyspepsin, loss of appetite, indigestion, inflamation of the stomach, heartburn, diarrhea, dysentory or flux, piles, fistola, obstructed monstruation, ague and fever, bilious or remittent fever, typhus fever, scarlet fever, small pox, St. Anthoney's fire, asthma, pleurisy, measeles, yellow fever, wind on the stomach or bowels, cholera morbus, consuption, influenza, colds, coughs, inflammation of the chest, palsy, gout, rheumatism, whooping cough, croup, dropsy, rickets, diseases of the liver, jaundice, difficulty of making urine, hysterics, mercurial and venereal diseases, ulcers, sores, etc. (The main ingredients were most likely alcohol or opium, cocaine or some such other "cure")
This Panacea was sold at various business address locations including 16 Hanover St. (which was listed in a full page ad in Matchett’s Baltimore Director in 1842) up until the 1850’s. Henry T. Houck became proprietor of the firm in 1851 and in later years probably licensed it for others to sell, as there is an 1855 advertisement in a Nashville Tennessee directory by a A.G. Goodlet for “Houck’s Improved Panacea & Goodlet’s Vegetable Lineament” listed at No. 29 1/2 Cherry St. Nashville Tennessee.
And here is an original bottle that the elixer was sold in...
QN
Go to Early United States Coins - to order the New "Early United States Half Dollar Vol. 1 / 1794-1807" book or the 1st new Bust Quarter book!
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CoinsAreFun Toned Silver Eagle Proof Album
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Gallery Mint Museum, Ron Landis& Joe Rust, The beginnings of the Golden Dollar
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More CoinsAreFun Pictorials NGC
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Low #1, the "aged head" sub variety. R-7 (estimated population 4 to 12 known)
Low 7, R-6, (estimated population 13 to 30 known) I think this is among the better ones known.
Low 57, R-6, (estimated population 13 to 30 known) This was one of John Ford's "spares." He had a better one, but this the best example of this token that I have ever seen.
<< <i> I collect the political pieces, but not the store cards. >>
..............and some killer ones at that!!
Very nice.
Stefanie
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<< <i> I collect the political pieces, but not the store cards. >>
..............and some killer ones at that!!
Very nice.
Stefanie >>
I'm drawn to Unc and RB... there's just something about Lusterous Red pre civil war copper that I can't resist!
<< <i>Trying to find some other HT tokens I have pics of but this will do for now.
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Nice collection and a great site (Now Saved to Favs!)
I don't own a Low-120 yet, and not for the lack of trying
Here are 3 more I have:
H. REES counterstamp
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<< <i>A real sexy looking token
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Wow Cuds and Clashed Dies... and what a Honker!
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From what I've read, this is the impetus of the Donkey mascot for the Democrat Party.
Ren
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