Ok, edjukate me on this

ArizonaJack · July 5, 2008 11:25AM

What is this? I smell a rat.

Edit: remove auction listing and post pic

harvey85422458 · July 5, 2008 11:27AM

Why dont you ask the seller he is a member here?

ArizonaJack · July 5, 2008 11:30AM

<< Why dont you ask the seller he is a member here? >>

Edited to remove sellers ID

bigmansam88 · July 5, 2008 11:30AM

<< Why dont you ask the seller he is a member here? >>

I agree.

People post about his toned coins all the time but never actually ask him about them.

ArizonaJack · July 5, 2008 11:32AM

My question is basically , how did this get into a PCGS holder?

JSsson · July 5, 2008 11:34AM

Is the coin in a PCGS holder?

Bochiman · July 5, 2008 11:36AM

<< My question is basically , how did this get into a PCGS holder? >>

Someone took the coin in a gloved hand and placed it in the plastic then sonically sealed it....

harvey85422458 · July 5, 2008 11:37AM

<< My question is basically , how did this get into a PCGS holder? >>

Maybe the seller will see this thread and tell us what he knows about the coin.

Robb · July 5, 2008 11:38AM

I'm guessing this belongs to either peaco*kcoinz (or something like that) or Manofcoins?

coindeuce · July 5, 2008 11:43AM

Don't know how long its been in the PCGS holder, but it isn't anything other than accelerated toning of fine silver. I saw these regularly when I was employed by a dealer that handled a huge volume of A.S.E.'s. I would usually set them aside until the owner could decide wether they should be dipped or left alone.
Its a common date A.S.E. worth bullion.

ArizonaJack · July 5, 2008 11:48AM

I am not questioning seller at all, they ( he/she) have a cpl real primos listed as well. My thoughts were this particular coin is AT, and in a PCGS holder.

Goldbully · July 5, 2008 11:48AM

<< Is the coin in a PCGS holder? >>

YUP!!!!!!!!

Goldbully · July 5, 2008 11:48AM

<< I'm guessing this belongs to either peaco*kcoinz (or something like that) or Manofcoins? >>

Good guess, Robb!!!!

stman · July 5, 2008 12:01PM

Interesting, a hunk of bullion, with some blue on it.

Russ · July 5, 2008 12:20PM

The coin could very well be natural toning as "natural" is generally defined - in other words, not a deliberate intentional chemical or heat induced AT job. That shade of blue is commonly found on these in Dansco albums. I've seen entire sets with that color to one degree or another.

Russ, NCNE

ArizonaJack · July 5, 2008 12:21PM

Thanks Russ

cinman14 · July 5, 2008 1:07PM

Looks AT to me, but what do I know. Let PCGS determine that

All I see are 2 nasty fingerprints, couple of milk spots and some very bright toning rarely seen on 100yr old coins

So I turn to the experts at PCGS to decide for me...

PCGS opinion on toning

Doogy · July 5, 2008 2:03PM

the same way this one did. at least PCI got it right, before it was cracked out and re-submitted to PCGS (with a one point bump even!)

PrivateCoinCollector · July 5, 2008 2:25PM

In class last week we saw a case with 10 coins in it. All with the top 2 TPG labels. All toned. Only 3 were NT. That exercise opened a lot of eyes. I expect this thread to go poof any time now.

braddick · July 5, 2008 2:33PM

That one and about a dozen others, all PCGS graded, were consigned to me this week.

The collector had originally been going for a date set, all PCGS slabbed and all toned. Some are prettier than others.

Raybo · July 5, 2008 2:42PM

No way the coin toned like that naturally.

It's a BS AT POS.

Ray

OneCent · July 5, 2008 2:48PM

<< No way the coin toned like that naturally.

It's a BS AT POS.

Ray >>

Looks like sulfur overload to me...

SirAnthonyAC · July 5, 2008 3:08PM

As far as the auctions and the PCGS holders go, it’s most like from a collector who cherry picked rainbow toned coins.

But, when people say that no coin toned like that “naturally”… do you really mean “accidently”?

If say a few BU walkers were stored in an old sulfur based paper roll 20 years ago and most came out black, brown but a few came out with wild rainbow colors… is that naturally toned because it was an accident?

If I placed a batch of my own BU walkers in that same holder today and by next year I had some rainbows… is that now Artificially Toned because I wanted them to tone?

stman · July 5, 2008 3:09PM

<< That one and about a dozen others, all PCGS graded, were consigned to me this week.

The collector had originally been going for a date set, all PCGS slabbed and all toned. Some are prettier than others. >>

Ya see? I knew there was something interesting about this one. This couldn't be a coin braddick owns as he like red ones.

Regardless, still just a hunk of bullion that they should have never started slabbing..... in my opinion of course.

OneCent · July 5, 2008 3:28PM

<< As far as the auctions and the PCGS holders go, it’s most like from a collector who cherry picked rainbow toned coins.

But, when people say that no coin toned like that “naturally”… do you really mean “accidently”?

If say a few BU walkers were stored in an old sulfur based paper roll 20 years ago and most came out black, brown but a few came out with wild rainbow colors… is that naturally toned because it was an accident?

If I placed a batch of my own BU walkers in that same holder today and by next year I had some rainbows… is that now Artificially Toned because I wanted them to tone? >>

But...this isn't a Walker

. And if it was, it would never be considered NT or holdered by a top TPG with the same toning as this coin.

SirAnthonyAC · July 5, 2008 3:49PM

<< But...this isn't a Walker. And if it was, it would never be considered NT or holdered by a top TPG with the same toning as this coin. >>

Ummmm... well, yeah... you do have a point there!

BlindedByEgo · July 5, 2008 4:07PM

The fine silver in modern bullion tones differently and obviously more quickly than coin (90%) silver does. After several years of reading these threads on this board I thought that everyone who spent time here would know that.

Why anyone would pay a premium for such coins is a mystery to me, but it bothers me not in the slightest. And if PCGS or anyone else wants to certify such coins, more power to them. It won't change my personal position one iota.

They can be outrageously pretty; They just aren't my cup of meat.

Steve27 · July 5, 2008 7:20PM

After looking at the reverse, I have no problem with that coin being in a PCGS holder.

ibzman350 · July 5, 2008 11:25PM

thanks for the link........

Herb

PerryHall · July 6, 2008 1:22AM

It's has got be NT because an AT coin would be a whole lot more attractive than this one.

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