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Would you be more willing to buy a coin knowing the dealer is making minimal profit on it?

I was reading somewhere online, and the person said basically that the prices they were charging were "only" 15% over cost. Would you be more willing to purchase a particular coin from a dealer if you know that he/she was making minimal profit?
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  • DaveGDaveG Posts: 3,535
    Some people are really sensitive to a dealer's profit margin, but I'm not.

    I want a dealer to make enough money so that he stays in business long-term.

    The best way to get to be a preferred client of a dealer is to spend money with them - either you're a big client who buys lots of coins, you pay strong money for coins you want or you sell him coins he wants.

    The fastest way to become an undesirable customer is to carp about a dealer's profit margins or argue over every penny.

    Which would you rather be: a customer who gets offered really nice coins or a customer a dealer runs away from when he sees you coming?

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  • LanLordLanLord Posts: 11,725 ✭✭✭✭✭
    oddly enough, i really dont give a rats rear end what the dealer makes on a coin, as long as i feel i got my moneys worth and happy with purchase, thats all that concerns me
  • mach19mach19 Posts: 4,002 ✭✭
    If a dealer purchased a coin for let's say 200.00 & was selling for double that price, If it is a coin I wanted it would not matter to ME. Some people ( like myself ) call this practice CHERRYPICKING image
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  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,903 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Unless you actually watched him buy the coin, how would you know what his profit is? I wouldn't believe any dealer that tells me that he's only making $XX on the deal.

    Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
    "Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
    "Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire

  • EagleEyeEagleEye Posts: 7,677 ✭✭✭✭✭
    When I am buying from a dealer, his/her cost may enter into the bargaining and put a limit on how far down they can go (If they are honest at telling me what they paid). If it is a collector I am sensitive to their cost - sometimes I can't get them out of a bad purchase, but I try to give them a fair price and a profit. Sometimes they are suprized when my buy price is way over Grey sheet!

    In selling, I sometimes tell the buyer my cost (I don't really care if anyone knows - price is what it is). If I am taking a loss, I certianly make that known!

    As a dealer, when I look at a coin to buy I look at what I can sell it for, not what some price guide (except my own) says.

    Collectors advise: If you see the coin you really want, don't pass on it because it is 20% - 30% over what you expected to pay.
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  • SamByrdSamByrd Posts: 3,131 ✭✭✭✭
    I could give a rats posterior about the dealers margin , if he buys right and does well good for him. Its worth what I want to pay for it period.
  • MrSpudMrSpud Posts: 4,499 ✭✭✭
    Sometimes, maybe, a coin that a dealer can't make any money on is because the coin is "maxed-out" and overpriced for the market and if you need to sell it for whatever reason you'll end up losing money on it.
  • BAJJERFANBAJJERFAN Posts: 31,401 ✭✭✭✭✭
    As long as one is getting value for the $$$ I don't see that it matters. Don't you think that a dealer shud add something to a coin besides cost? I do get a little irritated when I get lowballed for offers and then see how much they are put up for later. As a collector/seller I have a bottom line to think about too; I can only sell for so little and buy for so much. When I have the funds I'm willing to pony up for good stuff.
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  • ziggy29ziggy29 Posts: 18,668 ✭✭✭
    I don't care what the dealer makes on a coin as long as it was obtained fairly. I either like the coin for a certain price or I don't. If I like a coin at $500, I don't care whether the dealer paid $300 or $450.
  • BECOKABECOKA Posts: 16,961 ✭✭✭
    The few dealers I deal with usually pay more than most and I don't have a problem with their margin as they get original coins that are otherwise hard to find.
  • MowgliMowgli Posts: 1,219
    Once there was a coin I saw at a show listed at $300 but the dealer told me he would let me have it for $250. When I came back later it was gone. I eventually saw it at another dealer's table (the same day) and he had it listed at $600 and told me he had $550 in it. Based on that I never pay attention to what a dealer says he paid unless I know them and have a relationship with them. In the latter case I have had a dealer tell me he got burned on a raw coin that he bought but didn't notice it was overgraded; he sold it to me for half of what he paid. There are dealers I work with that tell me their costs and it is nice knowing that I'm not getting gouged or being told why I'm paying so much.
    In the land of the blind the one-eyed man is king.
  • mrpotatoheaddmrpotatoheadd Posts: 7,576 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Would you be more willing to purchase a particular coin from a dealer if you know that he/she was making minimal profit? >>

    I'm not sure how useful that information is, even if you could be guaranteed it's accurate. If you're experienced enough to know that the asking price is a good value, you're probably not going to pass on a coin you like just because the dealer is making "too much" on the deal. And if you're not experienced and are trying to use a dealer's "minimal profit" as a gauge that you're not overpaying, you certainly wouldn't know from the dealer's implied cost (offered price - 15% or whatever) whether or not *he* overpaid when he bought the coin.
  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    What a dealer makes is his business... what I pay is mine. I want my coin as inexpensive as possible. If the dealer takes a loss, that is fine with me - unlikely, but fine. It is my money... and therefore MY business. Cheers, RickO
  • BBQnBLUESBBQnBLUES Posts: 1,803
    Hey, I didn't just fall off the Turnip Truck image

    Don't believe everything you read. (like new cars for $1 over invoice)..
  • ram1946ram1946 Posts: 762 ✭✭
    Why does it matter? Why should it matter?
  • GrumpyEdGrumpyEd Posts: 4,749 ✭✭✭
    It is not important, if the dealer gets a good deal and can still sell me the coin at a price I like I'm happy. I would not be happier if I knew the dealer did not profit at all.
    Ed
  • FatManFatMan Posts: 8,977
    The important thing is what I pay, not what the dealer paid.

    IMO, when a dealer says something like "I'll sell it to you for $25 over what I paid" he either bought very poorly and is trying to pass his problem on to you or he is lying.
  • notwilightnotwilight Posts: 12,864 ✭✭✭
    Would you be more willing to buy a coin knowing the dealer is losing money on it? If I have a $500 coin I'm going to try to sell it for $500 whether I paid $100 for it or $1000. If I win a $500 coin on ebay for $100 would you suggest I offer it on the BST board for $115? --Jerry
  • ColonialCoinUnionColonialCoinUnion Posts: 10,087 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Would you be more willing to buy a coin knowing the dealer is making minimal profit on it? >>



    This question could also be asked of dealers - i.e. would a dealer be more willing to buy a coin knowing that the seller (be it another dealer, a collector, etc.) is making minimal profit on it?

    And my answer would be who cares? The decision should be solely based on the coin being offered and the price quoted.
  • stmanstman Posts: 11,352 ✭✭✭✭✭
    As soon as the story starts in person, or a few long paragraphs via email on how much they paid....... I usually shut my wallet, walk away and or delete the email.image
    Please... Save The Stories, Just Answer My Questions, And Tell Me How Much!!!!!
  • messydeskmessydesk Posts: 20,342 ✭✭✭✭✭
    If it's a coin I need and like at the price I want to pay, I don't care if the dealer got it for free. Likewise, if it's a coin I don't want or is overpriced, I don't care if the dealer is losing his shirt.
  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,903 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Bottom line---What a dealer paid is not relevant in a coin buying decision.

    Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
    "Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
    "Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire

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