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EACers: How you grade?

raysrays Posts: 2,424 ✭✭✭✭✭
This 93 liberty cap in Stacks next auction


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  • MacCrimmonMacCrimmon Posts: 7,058 ✭✭✭
    AG3, Avg.-
  • VG is a bit optimistic IMO. G4 at best, possibly argueably net-able to an AG3. Average to Average minus. Looks to have some nasty reverse rim damage.
  • PrethenPrethen Posts: 3,461 ✭✭✭
    I grade it U for Ugly.
  • MikeInFLMikeInFL Posts: 10,188 ✭✭✭✭
    AG-03 sharpness, AVG -, net FA-02.
    Collector of Large Cents, US Type, and modern pocket change.
  • MisterBungleMisterBungle Posts: 2,308 ✭✭✭
    I agree with AG-3 sharpness, but the reverse damage
    is not consistent with the grade, so, net Fair-2.

    ~


    "America suffers today from too much pluribus and not enough unum.".....Arthur Schlesinger Jr.

  • raysrays Posts: 2,424 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Thanks for the replies. Based only upon the sharpness evident on the images, I was thinking sharpness G4 net G4 or possibly AG3.
  • BECOKABECOKA Posts: 16,961 ✭✭✭
    I have an AG3 coin that looks better than that.
  • raysrays Posts: 2,424 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Well, with Pistareen's help I bought it and it now is a PCGS G-6. It looks nicer in person than the photograph. These Liberty caps are getting more difficult to find.
  • Hammered for $12,000?
    PCGS Price Guide for G-8 is $9000. No buyback risk for the TPG here and no rip for the buyer, even with the plastic cover.
    You know old copper doesn't like plastic coffins.

    Enjoy the tough date, the R-4(I would think it R-5), and the small crowd that can share this pleasure.
    OLDER IS BETTER
  • LongacreLongacre Posts: 16,717 ✭✭✭
    That's a solid G, and I would place a sticker on that coin.
    Always took candy from strangers
    Didn't wanna get me no trade
    Never want to be like papa
    Working for the boss every night and day
    --"Happy", by the Rolling Stones (1972)
  • ziggy29ziggy29 Posts: 18,668 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Well, with Pistareen's help I bought it and it now is a PCGS G-6. It looks nicer in person than the photograph. These Liberty caps are getting more difficult to find. >>

    By common TPG standards, yes, I can easily see this going as G-4 if not G-6.

    Of course, the thread was originally asking for opinions of EACers, which means subtracting 20 from the "market grade" or dividing the market grade by 2 if the market grade is below 30. image
  • gecko109gecko109 Posts: 8,231
    I guess this could be a strong case for market grading. There are VERY FEW coins that you could send to PCGS with that severe damage and not get BBed. I guess this one is just rare enough to qualify.
  • coinnutcoinnut Posts: 1,433 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Nice pick up rays. It is indeed tough to find an affordable '93 Liberty Cap. That coin is still on my want list.
  • ziggy29ziggy29 Posts: 18,668 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I guess this could be a strong case for market grading. There are VERY FEW coins that you could send to PCGS with that severe damage and not get BBed. I guess this one is just rare enough to qualify. >>

    What it really means is "market acceptable." There is so little original, problem-free 17xx stuff out there that the "line" between slabbing and bodybagging moves a bit. Those serious digs and rim dings on the reverse would certainly condemn this coin if it were an 1853 or even an 1823 large cent instead of an 1793.

    Just the same, I think that huge rim problem at 3:00 on the reverse should have bagged it:

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  • DMWJRDMWJR Posts: 6,046 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Ziggy, I like your EAC formula ... I'm pretty sure that's how they do it ...image I would agree in this case with the formula ... AG03

    Interesting they graded it 7. Can't remember the last time I've seen someone call a coin a VG07.
    Doug
  • raysrays Posts: 2,424 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Hammered for $12,000?
    PCGS Price Guide for G-8 is $9000. No buyback risk for the TPG here and no rip for the buyer, even with the plastic cover.
    You know old copper doesn't like plastic coffins.

    Enjoy the tough date, the R-4(I would think it R-5), and the small crowd that can share this pleasure. >>




    The PCGS price guide is inaccurate on this issue.

    As an example, the last G6 to sell at public auction brought $13,226 and was later advertized on HLRC for $18,500. Harry has an AG3 for sale now for $11,500.

  • joecopperjoecopper Posts: 1,195 ✭✭✭
  • joecopperjoecopper Posts: 1,195 ✭✭✭
    First of all there is no such thing as an "ugly" '93 Liberty Cap, some are just better than others.
    I agree with the AG3 Avg-
  • ColonialCoinUnionColonialCoinUnion Posts: 10,087 ✭✭✭


    << <i>PCGS Price Guide for G-8 is $9000 >>



    The people who quote price guides for early copper should actually try to buy some at those levels.
  • numismanumisma Posts: 3,877 ✭✭✭✭

    My immediate reaction when I saw the image you posted was, "wow, that's a very nice Liberty Cap". Congrats on your acquistion.
  • raysrays Posts: 2,424 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Here is a PCGS G4 that I saw but passed on from CVM a few months ago. It had a nice smooth planchet but almost no reverse detail left:



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