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BlackhawkBlackhawk Posts: 3,899 ✭✭✭
I got this piggy bank from the estate of an elderly woman ...I don't know the age of the bank, but it appears that someone put two or three BU rolls of 1940 Lincoln cents into a new bank at some time. Who knows, maybe someone gave it as a gift to a child in 1940. There are instructions on how to break open the bank on the bottom of it, but since I can't find another bank like it on the internet or Ebay, I'm wondering if the bank itself is worth something. Most of the cents appear to be bright red with no toning, although a couple might be red/brown from what I can tell through the glass. The slot is small enough to make it impossible to remove the coins without destruction of the bank. Should I "break the bank" and free the cents?...how much is a better grade 1940 cent worth (if there's one in there)?


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  • sumnomsumnom Posts: 5,963 ✭✭✭
    Now this is an interesting question.
  • sumnomsumnom Posts: 5,963 ✭✭✭
    Here is some info on 1940 cent prices:

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  • glass piggy bank....

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  • GoldenEyeNumismaticsGoldenEyeNumismatics Posts: 13,187 ✭✭✭
    CDN prices a roll of BU 1940 cents at a bid of $175 per roll.

    If it's three rolls of quality 1940 BU Lincolns, the value is probably around $400-$500.
  • dohdoh Posts: 6,457 ✭✭✭
    Personally, I'd keep it the way it is. I think the bank itself is more interesting than the coins, but that's just MHO.
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  • SmittysSmittys Posts: 9,876 ✭✭✭✭✭
    don't break the bank, we used to do this as kids all the time
    put a butter knife blade in the coin slot( holding bank upside down)
    wiggle it gently and the coins will slide down it and out
  • That is one cool looking piggy bank! Too bad you can't find anything thin and sturdy enough to slide in the slot to get the cents to come out...
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  • LostSislerLostSisler Posts: 521 ✭✭✭
    Wow,
    That falls in the category of "Cool things a Numismatist displays in their office", rite up there with a Fractional Currency Shield, a bust of Lincoln, Plaque of FDR and JFK kinda stuff.
    I like it, I'd keep it like it is just for the conversations.
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  • NumisOxideNumisOxide Posts: 11,007 ✭✭✭✭✭
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  • pendragon1998pendragon1998 Posts: 2,070 ✭✭✭
    Screw the bank - smash it and get the coins! (And thanks for the great giveaway!) image
  • I have 3 of these same banks. They were my dad's when he was young. Shake it upside down over a towel and Voila! The coins come out one by one. Try it. You don't need to break it. The bank is most likely worth more than the coins. Just make sure that after a coin comes out, you remove it from the towel before the next one comes out. Of course, all the shaking is going to ding them up anyway.

    Oh, the butter knife idea is even better. Too bad I didn't think of that as a kid. I'd have been able to get enough coinage out to run after the ice cream man.

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  • guitarwesguitarwes Posts: 9,290 ✭✭✭


    Buuuust it, Buuuuust it, Buuuuust it!!


    Naw, keep it like that. Might come in handy on a rainy day.

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  • cinman14cinman14 Posts: 2,489
    I will give ya 50 bucks to wrap it up and send it to me just to preserve the history behind it.

    Why must we all be so anxious to ruin history for the benefit of a dollar?

    wrap it up real good in bubble wrap and send it my way...image
  • DJCoinzDJCoinz Posts: 3,856
    That is image I'd keep it the way it is.
    aka Dan
  • TCoinsTCoins Posts: 567 ✭✭


    Its hammer time!!!!!
  • Raybob15239Raybob15239 Posts: 1,359 ✭✭✭
    Rather than use a knife, which could scratch the coins, use a new, unused, flat penny roll. It will require patience and a few rolls...

    My vote though (not that you asked for one) is to keep it as is.
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  • rgCoinGuyrgCoinGuy Posts: 7,478


    << <i>That is image I'd keep it the way it is. >>



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  • mrearlygoldmrearlygold Posts: 17,858 ✭✭✭
    Butter knife and ease em out slowly.
  • fivecentsfivecents Posts: 11,207 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Spare the pig.
  • BlackhawkBlackhawk Posts: 3,899 ✭✭✭
    While it looks wider in the photos, the slot narrows so that it will barely allow a US nickel to slide in...it will not accomodate a knife and a cent at the same time. Because the slot is so narrow at the inside of the casting. it would be hard to get the coin turned to slide out.
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  • stockergreenstockergreen Posts: 483 ✭✭
    Keep it as is.Much more interesting.


  • << <i>Spare the pig. >>



    agreed!
  • I say SELL IT AS IS. You might have people lined up to get those pennies and the bank at the same time. Like someone said about the pennies alone for about $400 in B/U as long as they can see the cents inside you are golden.
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  • BearBear Posts: 18,953 ✭✭✭
    If the bank is from the 40s, it may be more valuable

    then the pennies inside. Check with an antique dealer

    before you break it.
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  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    Personally, I'd keep it the way it is. I think the bank itself is more interesting than the coins, but that's just MHO.


    Me too.


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  • << <i>Times must be pretty tough, I am starting to believe maybe the sky will fall, if one is forced to free up some pennies as opposed to leaving them intact and setting on a desk as a display piece I then think we are all in trouble and soon. I really thought the hobby was safe but now I am not so certain.image >>

    Basically what you are saying is that the hobby of coin collecting or just collecting period is to buy and show, and to sell for a profit is bad for the hobby of collecting and against all that it is about.
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  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Use a flat paper coin roll .. as stated above.. the paper is thin, but strong... coins will come flowing out... Cheers, RickO
  • cinman14cinman14 Posts: 2,489


    << <i>

    << <i>Times must be pretty tough, I am starting to believe maybe the sky will fall, if one is forced to free up some pennies as opposed to leaving them intact and setting on a desk as a display piece I then think we are all in trouble and soon. I really thought the hobby was safe but now I am not so certain.image >>

    Basically what you are saying is that the hobby of coin collecting or just collecting period is to buy and show, and to sell for a profit is bad for the hobby of collecting and against all that it is about. >>



    Once you break the bank open you have lost the history tied to the coins.. Buying a coin for a collection and selling it at a
    later date for profit would not be bad for the hobby..Buying a rare coin that had original surfaces and cleaning it would be
    bad for the hobby. Because you have lost the history tied to the coin.

    Breaking that bank open to sell with the hopes of turning a profit would be bad. Because you are losing the history behind the coins.
    Let's not forget the true meaning of "collecting" and "flipping" they are two different things. And yes in my opinion
    flipping is bad for collectors.

    JMHO
  • fcloudfcloud Posts: 12,133 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Use a flat paper coin roll .. as stated above.. the paper is thin, but strong... coins will come flowing out... Cheers, RickO >>



    I, too, think they can be gently removed. It will take a bit of work, but in the long run the bes solution.

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  • GritsManGritsMan Posts: 2,599 ✭✭✭
    I'm seeing a real schism here between the "Bank Breakers" and the "Pig Lovers". This, in fact, is how I believe our two political parties started--oh yeah, with the occasional "Butter Knife" party member thrown in. Whatever happens, we can be assured that democracy was at work.
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  • Didn't Geraldo try this once and was disappointed.image
  • lcoopielcoopie Posts: 8,873 ✭✭✭✭✭
    since it seems to be possible to get the coins out, I would
    you can never prove that someone else didn't do it previously
    and of course there is curiosity
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  • FWIW, another vote for leave it as is...
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  • WalmannWalmann Posts: 2,806
    The question is totally of your choice. Have you always wanted to break the bank or are you a politican and into pork?
  • secondrepublicsecondrepublic Posts: 2,619 ✭✭✭
    Leave it alone. If your goal is to sell the coins inside, sell it all "as is" and you'll probably get a better price.
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  • MrSpudMrSpud Posts: 4,499 ✭✭✭
    Fill it with nitrogen gas and then seal the slot with silicone so the coins inside will stay red forever.
  • lope208lope208 Posts: 1,960 ✭✭
    Think about it...do you really want to destroy something that's been 70 years in the making?
    I vote for trying to get a handful out (one at a time of course) for grading, and keep the rest in tact.

    If you're feeling really lucky, maybe you can pay PCGS to certify the whole pig image
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  • cinman14cinman14 Posts: 2,489


    << <i>Think about it...do you really want to destroy something that's been 70 years in the making?
    I vote for trying to get a handful out (one at a time of course) for grading, and keep the rest in tact.

    If you're feeling really lucky, maybe you can pay PCGS to certify the whole pig image >>



    PCGS BU uncirculated
    (Grandma's Hoard)

    They will certify a roll of Prezzies and ASEs why not a pig....image
  • illini420illini420 Posts: 11,467 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Very cool!! If you are 100% sure they are all 1940s, then I too would leave it as is, but only if you're sure. image
  • It would be interesting to see a poll.

    Personally I think it is way cool AS IS.

    Edited to add: You could get some of the coins out if you wanted to, if not with a butter knife, then something else like a toothpick and some prodding and a lot of patience. If course the gem coin may be buried in the bottom, or middle, and the few coins you get out may not be worth the effort, if you're thinking of submitting that is.

    I laughed out loud at Spud's suggestion.
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  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I have never understood the dilemma.... some individuals would break the bank immediately, some would tinker the coins out, and others would leave the product 'whole'. What confuses me, is the consternation of some... 'should I, shouldn't I'????? I believe, because of my profession, and avocation, decision comes easy to me, and I am befuddled as to why it does not come easy to others. I would imagine this indecisiveness must permeate their lives... how frustrating. Just some musing.. Cheers, RickO
  • LongacreLongacre Posts: 16,717 ✭✭✭
    Just have PCGS slab the bank.
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  • sfs2002usasfs2002usa Posts: 931 ✭✭✭
    The piggy bank is cool as it. If you are bored on a saturday afternoon/s you could
    try-pry them out with a plastic tweezer one-at-a-time. Good Luck!
  • OmegaOmega Posts: 1,587 ✭✭✭
    CAC sticker the hole shut says the People for Pig Preservation!
  • ccrdragonccrdragon Posts: 2,697
    'what about the pig'




















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  • First of all, that is awesome.
  • Just save it, intact. What a wonderful Pandora's Box for you! I think the guessing and wondering would be more fun than actually knowing, at least in this situation......image
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  • dimplesdimples Posts: 1,286 ✭✭✭
    definitely more interesting as a whole. Keep it as is and sell it on Ebay when your bored with it.
  • ziggy29ziggy29 Posts: 18,668 ✭✭✭
    The coolness factor of this item is a lot higher than the coolness factor of a shattered piggy bank and several dozen raw 1940 Lincolns.

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