The biggest mistake of my professional career was related to a Pacific & Co. piece that was thought to be gilt by everyone (including the consignor, who taught metallurgy at the collegiate level and was renowned in his field) but was actually gold.
SG is your friend, young Jedi. Density solves mysteries.
I don't think that a private coining operation like Pacific Co. had the technology to gild anything this convincingly. The Paris Mint, maybe, but not a couple guys with a screw press in the Wild West.
What is now proved was once only imagined. - William Blake
Gilt means that the item has had a thin layer of gold applied (either before or after striking) to make it appear to be gold when it is actually struck from some other metal.
What is now proved was once only imagined. - William Blake
I don't think that a private coining operation like Pacific Co. had the technology to gild anything this convincingly. The Paris Mint, maybe, but not a couple guys with a screw press in the Wild West. >>
I don't think that a private coining operation like Pacific Co. had the technology to gild anything this convincingly. The Paris Mint, maybe, but not a couple guys with a screw press in the Wild West. >>
It takes David about 11 years to tell a typical story. This may take longer
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Walker Proof Digital Album Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
@Pistareen said:
The biggest mistake of my professional career was related to a Pacific & Co. piece that was thought to be gilt by everyone (including the consignor, who taught metallurgy at the collegiate level and was renowned in his field) but was actually gold.
SG is your friend, young Jedi. Density solves mysteries.
Indeed. I have been preaching the benefits of Specific Gravity testing for years.
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IF???? this is in gold, why is it not in the Redbook?
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What is now proved was once only imagined. - William Blake
(just in for photos?)
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What is now proved was once only imagined. - William Blake
JK that thing is sweet! I wish i 'found' stuff like you do
What is now proved was once only imagined. - William Blake
I wish.
What is now proved was once only imagined. - William Blake
SG is your friend, young Jedi. Density solves mysteries.
Betts medals, colonial coins, US Mint medals, foreign coins found in early America, and other numismatic Americana
How do you know that?
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Just can't remember where right now.
Very, very, very, very nice example.
How do you know that?
I don't think that a private coining operation like Pacific Co. had the technology to gild anything this convincingly. The Paris Mint, maybe, but not a couple guys with a screw press in the Wild West.
What is now proved was once only imagined. - William Blake
What is now proved was once only imagined. - William Blake
<< <i>Its definitely not gilt.
How do you know that?
I don't think that a private coining operation like Pacific Co. had the technology to gild anything this convincingly. The Paris Mint, maybe, but not a couple guys with a screw press in the Wild West. >>
Pacific Company Coins
edited to add - I have handled gilt pattern Pacific Company pieces. They are VERY crudely gilt.
What is now proved was once only imagined. - William Blake
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<< <i>Its definitely not gilt.
How do you know that?
I don't think that a private coining operation like Pacific Co. had the technology to gild anything this convincingly. The Paris Mint, maybe, but not a couple guys with a screw press in the Wild West. >>
Pacific Company Coins >>
OK, I have to get Kagan's book where that text came from. That is some good stuff.
<< <i>I'm not sure I understand the significance of posting a link to Coinfacts. >>
Well, the text is related to the history of this coin. It was interesting to me anyway.
Great look to her also.
<< <i>Since when has there been a gold Pacific $2.5 known? Is this the first? >>
Seems like that is the question.
I have handled gilt pattern Pacific Company pieces. They are VERY crudely gilt.
In all likelihood, the gilt pieces were not plated by the Pacific Company. They were probably done much later, and possibly by more than one person.
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BTW, that is pretty darned cool!
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OLD THREAD ALERT!
Is 11 years long enough to wait for the “rest of the story?” 🧐
I should think so. C'mon Mr. McCarthy, we need to know.
Yes indeed.... What was the final conclusion?? Gilt or gold? And 'The Rest of The Story'....Cheers, RickO
I fourth the motion! @Regulated
very cool! i am anxiously awaiting the story behind it.
Waaaaaaay cool😎
It takes David about 11 years to tell a typical story. This may take longer
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Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
plus he’s on vacation right now so tack on a couple more years.
Ironically, Paul Harvey died in 2009. There went the " Rest of the Story "
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Very cool piece. I would love to hear the rest of the story as well.
He's busy "writing," so it may be awhile!
It is the AU53 1849 P$2.50 K-2 Pacific Company on CoinFacts.
Indeed. I have been preaching the benefits of Specific Gravity testing for years.
This post is from over THREE YEARS before I even joined these boards! LOL
I know what it is. I love the uber-cool, unique design, the profound rarity and the absolutely beautiful surfaces.
But, I'd still like to hear it from David, as nobody knows more about this piece and nobody can tell a story quite like him.
Sometimes, it’s better to be LUCKY than good. 🍀 🍺👍
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The title of this thread implies people were still using dial up modems at the time. THAT's how long it's been.
IF???? this is in gold, why is it not in the Redbook?
just a ttt to see if there is an answer yet.
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