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ShamikaShamika Posts: 18,785 ✭✭✭✭
I hate fingerprints to such a degree that even the hint of such an anomoly will cause me to reject the coin. I just can't see past the print.
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    ShamikaShamika Posts: 18,785 ✭✭✭✭
    I added "Die cracks" since some members may find them objectionable. I, on the other hand, love die cracks but to each his own.



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    MidLifeCrisisMidLifeCrisis Posts: 10,613 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I chose questionable color because it is indicative of the coin being "messed with", doctored, conserved, etc. All the others are results of normal handling, circulation or as made. Fingerprints would be a close second.
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    BillJonesBillJones Posts: 35,813 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I voted for fingerprints.

    Bag marks are a close second.

    One way to define my dislike for fingerprints on coins is story that runs like this.

    An environmental extremist takes a long hike into an area which he thinks no human as seen in decades. After taking a long, deep breath of clear virgin air and thinking that all is right with the world, he looks down and sees brand new empty discarded beer can. That’s how I feel about fingerprints on coins, and it does not matter if they are old or new prints, I really dislike them.
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    blu62vetteblu62vette Posts: 11,968 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I chose thumbprints becuase I hate them. They can really ruin a coin for me.
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    ShamikaShamika Posts: 18,785 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I chose questionable color because it is indicative of the coin being "messed with", doctored, conserved, etc. All the others are results of normal handling, circulation or as made. Fingerprints would be a close second. >>

    For me, questionable color would be a close second for the same reasons and would result in a 99% rejection rate if offered to me. But as a collector of mint state coins, a piece with fingerprints is a red flag that the coin is not mint state (even if I know otherwise). Again, I just can't enjoy the coin for the fingerprint. image


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    ShamikaShamika Posts: 18,785 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I chose thumbprints becuase I hate them. They can really ruin a coin for me. >>

    Damn, I forgot "thumbprint". image


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    ShamikaShamika Posts: 18,785 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>One way to define my dislike for fingerprints on coins is story that runs like this.

    An environmental extremist takes a long hike into an area which he thinks no human as seen in decades. After taking a long, deep breath of clear virgin air and thinking that all is right with the world, he looks down and sees brand new empty discarded beer can. That’s how I feel about fingerprints on coins, and it does not matter if they are old or new prints, I really dislike them. >>


    That's a pretty good way of putting it.


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    BECOKABECOKA Posts: 16,961 ✭✭✭
    If done right finger prints can be quite attractive. For me it is spots whether they be carbon, Milk or other....
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    ShamikaShamika Posts: 18,785 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>If done right finger prints can be quite attractive. For me it is spots whether they be carbon, Milk or other.... >>

    I've heard a theory that Franklin Halves must be fingerprinted for attractive toning to occur. I'm not sure I believe this, but I've heard it from more than one reputable source.



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    PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 47,549 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I chose questionable color because it is indicative of the coin being "messed with", doctored, conserved, etc. All the others are results of normal handling, circulation or as made. Fingerprints would be a close second. >>

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    DJCoinzDJCoinz Posts: 3,856
    Fingerprints don't bother me at all unless they are still fresh. image To me they just add another element of history to the coin. Spots are what I don't like the most.
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    adamlaneusadamlaneus Posts: 6,969 ✭✭✭
    After some thought, I have a 'meta answer'.

    Based on how angry I was after a sale...

    A "generally accepted to be undesirable anomaly" ... that the seller has knowingly avoided disclosing. Such as what happens on eBay with stock photos, etc.

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    Newcomp103Newcomp103 Posts: 2,223


    << <i>If done right finger prints can be quite attractive. For me it is spots whether they be carbon, Milk or other.... >>





    I don't know if I would go so far as to say that I think finger prints are "attractive"....but I am more ok with them (as long as they are not overly distracting) than the carbon or milk spots....they REALLY irk me most of the time! image
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    PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 47,549 ✭✭✭✭✭
    AT is the only "anomoly" that is intentionally inflicted on a coin.

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    NHSBaseballNHSBaseball Posts: 2,470
    I hit "other"- carbon spots get my vote.
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    BECOKABECOKA Posts: 16,961 ✭✭✭


    << <i>AT is the only "anomoly" that is intentionally inflicted on a coin. >>



    I don't know about that, thumbed comes to mind. image
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    anablepanablep Posts: 5,205 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Fingerprints.

    No doubt.
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    BECOKABECOKA Posts: 16,961 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I hit "other"- carbon spots get my vote. >>



    Would that not fall under spots?
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    tahoe98tahoe98 Posts: 11,388 ✭✭✭


    the print of the finger.......................................or thumbimage
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    PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 47,549 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>AT is the only "anomoly" that is intentionally inflicted on a coin. >>



    I don't know about that, thumbed comes to mind. image >>



    So does "puttying" and "tooling" but these weren't options in the survey.

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    ShamikaShamika Posts: 18,785 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

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    << <i>AT is the only "anomoly" that is intentionally inflicted on a coin. >>



    I don't know about that, thumbed comes to mind. image >>



    So does "puttying" and "tooling" but these weren't options in the survey. >>

    I kind of considered "puttying and tooling" to be a part of the "other" catagory since it's only a problem in a very small number of coins. Perhaps I should have offered it.

    None the less, I also thought of "thumbing" as intentional since it was a somewhat common ploy back in the day to cover hairlines.

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    firstmintfirstmint Posts: 1,171
    Anomaly -

    "a deviation from the normal or common order, form, or rule; abnormality".

    The 1-70 Sheldon grading scale gets my vote!
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    JupitarCoinsJupitarCoins Posts: 2,595
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    JoesMaNameJoesMaName Posts: 1,071 ✭✭✭
    All things being equal I agree with you - hate them prints.
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    My vote is for weak strike. I acually like fingerprints on toners where the prints are a different color than the coin. It gives a bit of psycadelic interest in the coin.
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    pcgs69pcgs69 Posts: 4,397 ✭✭✭✭
    I think rim bumps have to be #1 on my list
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    halfhunterhalfhunter Posts: 2,770 ✭✭✭
    Unable to vote as there is no "ALL OF THE ABOVE" choice. (except die cracks)

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    rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Tarnish... whether assisted or unassisted. Cheers, RickO
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    LeeGLeeG Posts: 12,162
    Spots bother me more than prints do. I used to hate prints, but they've grown on me a little bit. This print doesn't bother me:


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    BlindedByEgoBlindedByEgo Posts: 10,754 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Cancer spots on red copper.
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    percybpercyb Posts: 3,339 ✭✭✭✭
    all of the above
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    Cam40Cam40 Posts: 8,146
    carbon spots
    the more noticable the worse.
    i can deal with prints if it doesnt over-power the coin
    same with color. i know sometimes you just cant see past
    the color if its yucky to you and has prints to boot

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    sparky64sparky64 Posts: 7,063 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I voted for spots.
    My eye is drawn like a magnet to nasty spots and I can't get over them.

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    Dave99BDave99B Posts: 8,918 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Carbon spots = DEATH!

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    Aegis3Aegis3 Posts: 2,937 ✭✭✭
    Other: corrosion and porosity.
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    ShamikaShamika Posts: 18,785 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Spots bother me more than prints do. I used to hate prints, but they've grown on me a little bit. This print doesn't bother me:


    image >>







    I must admit prints on copper don't bother me that much. But on nickel and silver, it drives me nuts.


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    garsmithgarsmith Posts: 5,894 ✭✭
    Questionable color with fingerprints a close second-

    I go with questionable color as #1 because sometimes it's nice to find a print on an old circulated coin, it adds character.
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    keetskeets Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭✭
    why is a faint fingerprint distracting to so many while a similar looking textile pattern, which can be much bolder, is seen as an attractive value increaser???

    that is one of life's great mysteries to me..........................
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    BjornBjorn Posts: 542 ✭✭✭
    Weak strike - I'll often select a lower grade coin with a sharper strike if possible.

    Other things I don't like much are dipped circulated coins.
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    ShamikaShamika Posts: 18,785 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>why is a faint fingerprint distracting to so many while a similar looking textile pattern, which can be much bolder, is seen as an attractive value increaser???

    that is one of life's great mysteries to me.......................... >>

    I know what you mean. I've rejected coins for having a toning pattern that looked like a fingerprint. However, in the case of textile toning, it adds to the numismatic quality for me.



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    I don't like fingerprints. But not to the extent of the forum members polled here. Being a lover of proofs I find weak strikes fairly distracting. I don't like carbon spots on copper. But really I like coins in general and so many coins are not perfect...
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    BAJJERFANBAJJERFAN Posts: 31,632 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I don't think that most of those choices cept for the die cracks would be considered to be an anomaly.
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