MY Ebay auction was deleted after item was sold

TavernTreasures · March 6, 2008 6:58AM

I ran an auction and the coin was in a PCI slab. I listed it as "1892 Indian cent proof (red & brown PCI slab)". After auction ended and item sold-ebay deleted auction. They sent me an email and all the bidders an email saying that the auction was null and void. I called ebay and they told me that someone reported it. I guess some NUT that has nothing better to do called them.

notwilight · March 6, 2008 7:00AM

If they guy pays and you ship then you just saved ebay fees. I had about a dozen gold buffalos fees refunded and completed every sale. Call it a windfall profit. --Jerry

dcarr · March 6, 2008 7:14AM

Yep, I had a bunch cancelled after they were over. In fact, I even received a couple of PayPal payments before the auctions were cancelled. I completed some of the transactions anyway (no eBay fees).

tmcsr69 · March 6, 2008 7:21AM

Probably another seller trying to get revenge on ebay and making sure they enforce the rules. Here the seller suffers the most, but ebay also loses.

BECOKA · March 6, 2008 7:21AM

So it sounds like we are on to something here. A legal way to avoid e-bay fees.

notwilight · March 6, 2008 8:08AM

<< So it sounds like we are on to something here. A legal way to avoid e-bay fees.

>>

Previous successful fee avoidance.

BECOKA · March 6, 2008 8:11AM

<< 

<< So it sounds like we are on to something here. A legal way to avoid e-bay fees.

>>

<a class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://forums.collectors.com/messageview.cfm?catid=26&threadid=619199&highlight_key=y&keyword1=please&keyword2=report" target=blank>Previous successful fee avoidance. </A> >>

OK, so I'm a little behind the times.

TavernTreasures · March 6, 2008 11:27AM

Perfect together---Ebay and the jerks who have nothing better to do than report auctions like mine

seatedcoins · March 6, 2008 12:07PM

I would see if the buyer wants it and avoid the fees. Obviously the title is against ebay policy, in order to protect against the scammers. See if he wants to pay, if he knows PCI and bid on the auction he should already have a good idea on it's quality.

lope208 · March 6, 2008 12:22PM

Why do I have a feeling someone on these boards reported it?

TavernTreasures · March 6, 2008 6:28PM

<< Why do I have a feeling someone on these boards reported it? >>

Thank You---Ebay told me it was deleted because I used the words PCI in the title. And to whoever reported it. Get a life.

TavernTreasures · March 6, 2008 8:05PM

I contacted the winner of the auction and he backed out because the auction is now OFF EBAY. If it was still on Ebay......would ebay pack it, would Ebay mail it. What has changed? I am still the same seller as before.

To the loser who got my completed auction deleted. Mission accompolished.

TavernTreasures · March 6, 2008 8:25PM

<< Obviously the title is against ebay policy, in order to protect against the scammers. >>

Thanks for the reply. Adding to the title "PCI slab" is not scamming. It is telling the buyer that the coin being auctioned is in a PCI slab. And obviously, it is against EBAY rules. EBAY knows nothing about coins. They should hire someone who knows something about coins.

seatedcoins · March 6, 2008 8:56PM

<< 

<< Obviously the title is against ebay policy, in order to protect against the scammers. >>

Thanks for the reply. Adding to the title "PCI slab" is not scamming. It is telling the buyer that the coin being auctioned is in a PCI slab. And obviously, it is against EBAY rules. EBAY knows nothing about coins. They should hire someone who knows something about coins. >>

To me PCI isn't one of the scamming self grading companies/individual at home. But the term PCI slab grants it more of a "certified provonance" that ebay is trying to protect buyers from.

moonshine · March 7, 2008 1:55AM

eBy rules are becoming similar to the IRS - so confusing you can't figure it out without deep research.

PITA

OPA · March 7, 2008 1:59AM

<< And obviously, it is against EBAY rules. EBAY knows nothing about coins. They should hire someone who knows something about coins. >>

I'm in full agreement with your statement & I'm surprised that they have not done so.

ksteelheader · March 7, 2008 2:00AM

<< 

<< Why do I have a feeling someone on these boards reported it? >>

Thank You---Ebay told me it was deleted because I used the words PCI in the title. And to whoever reported it. Get a life. >>

Get a life? Like posting this whiny thread and then complaining about someone reporting you. Talk about wasting your life away!!

And, NO, I didn't report you.

notwilight · March 7, 2008 2:01AM

<< 

<< And obviously, it is against EBAY rules. EBAY knows nothing about coins. They should hire someone who knows something about coins. >>

I'm in full agreement with your statement & I'm surprised that they have not done so. >>

That is not ebay's business plan. they rely on input from buyers and sellers reporting auctions. Should they hire experts on lawnmowers, pianos, 17th century flemmish manuscripts and everything else they allow to be sold? --Jerry

Doogy · March 7, 2008 2:03AM

you broke their rules by adding 'PCI' to the title, which is clearly not allowed and spelled out in their rules for coin auctions. Sorry, but i don't think you deserve any sympathy or recourse. Next time, play by the rules and sell the coin according to the guidelines they have set forth and things should go more smoothly.

TavernTreasures · March 7, 2008 3:08AM

MY points.

1)The auction was completed and I had a buyer. Even though I unintentionally broke the "rule" and mentioned PCI in the title, at that point there was no need for anyone to report this auction, to get it cancelled.

2)The EBAY rule is stupid. Why wouldn't a buyer want to know (in the title) that the coin comes in a PCI slab.

3)The person who reported it (a board member?) is either NUTS, angry, or really does need to get a life.

notwilight · March 7, 2008 3:12AM

TT, Not sure why you think a forum member reported you. The most likely culprit would be another ebay seller angry because their auctions were cancelled or sellig a coin that competes with yours. ---Jerry

Edit to add: and they probably reported it before it closed but ebay got around to deleting it after it closed. I've seen that happen many times including things I've bought.

Doogy · March 7, 2008 3:14AM

<< MY points.

1)The auction was completed and I had a buyer. Even though I unintentionally broke the "rule" and mentioned PCI in the title. There was no need for anyone to report this
auction to get it cancelled.

if you unintentionally broke the rule, i guess you learned your lesson here. There are certainly reasons for people to report these auctions, as they don't comply with ebay rules, are a detriment to unsuspecting buyers, and the hobby at large.

2)The EBAY rule is stupid. Why wouldn't a buyer want to know (in the title) that the coin comes in a PCI slab.

don't like the new rules? then you don't have to list on ebay, it is that simple.

3)The person who reported it (a board member?) is either NUTS, angry, or really does need to get a life. >>

there is a large group of people here that have been reporting these auctions, so take your pick of "suspects"

gecko109 · March 7, 2008 3:19AM

So you want us to feel sorry for you because you broke the rules and got caught? You are correct, someone DOES need to get a life!

lloydmincy · March 7, 2008 3:42AM

I don't know why I opened this thread. I need to get a life for even typing this!!! It cracks me up someone wants to break the rules, and is upset they didnt get away with it.

personally, I wouldnt even THINK about buying a coin on E-bay, and can't believe anyone does!!! Just relist, and the same sucker may buy it. Is that so hard to do???

Boom · March 7, 2008 3:46AM

PM sent.

busco69 · March 7, 2008 3:50AM

Why did ebay put PCI in with the crap slabs anyways?

ksteelheader · March 7, 2008 3:53AM

<< Why did ebay put PCI in with the crap slabs anyways? >>

gecko109 · March 7, 2008 3:58AM

<< Why did ebay put PCI in with the crap slabs anyways? >>

Yeah, man. Im with you. Whenever I attend a show, I ALWAYS look for PCI slabbed pieces, cuz I know what kind of quality coins they certify! Now shut up and pass the shroom soup!

TwoSides2aCoin · March 7, 2008 4:01AM

Do you feel dirty using eBay ?

I sure feel like the scum of the earth.

gecko109 · March 7, 2008 4:03AM

<< Do you feel dirty using eBay ?

I sure feel like the scum of the earth.

>>

My guess is that if I opened my own coinshop, my overhead would certainley exceed 6% of my sales, and I wouldnt have 300 people look at one of my coins in a 7 day period. But hey, those are just assumptions!

TwoSides2aCoin · March 7, 2008 4:05AM

I was just warning lloyd ... I didn't want him to get cooties by re opening the thread

19Lyds · March 7, 2008 4:26AM

All this after the fact and closed auctions being cancelled stuff leads me to believe that eBay is moving the gun from their foot to their head!

I reported an auction last week was before it closed and they totally ignored it. My biggest concern here was not that it was a PCI slab but that the Title said an NGC coin when no NGC slab photo existed in the auction.

Bochiman · March 7, 2008 5:06AM

<< MY points.

1)The auction was completed and I had a buyer. Even though I unintentionally broke the "rule" and mentioned PCI in the title (at that point), there was no need for anyone to report this auction, to get it cancelled.

2)The EBAY rule is stupid. Why wouldn't a buyer want to know (in the title) that the coin comes in a PCI slab.

3)The person who reported it (a board member?) is either NUTS, angry, or really does need to get a life. >>

1) You don't know when someone reported it, it could have been long before auction was to end. As for a "need to report it", it is against the ebay rules, as they stand. So, if someone else can't put PCI in the title, why should you be allowed to? Did you not know about the recent rule enforcing NOT mentioning slab names unless they are on the approved list? It has been all over these boards, and ebay, for months.

2) Yes, it some ways it is. In other ways, maybe it will curtail a lot of the self-slabbers who neglect to tell people they are self-slabbers and their "MS70" is really a "POS-45".

3) The person who reported it (and, ebay has a lot more people than there are on these boards so it may not be a board member) is actually within their rights to report an auction that breaks the rules. If they don't, they just allow the encouragement of those auctions that break rules.

Frankcoins · May 22, 2008 7:26AM

<< Thanks for the reply. Adding to the title "PCI slab" is not scamming. It is telling the buyer that the coin being auctioned is in a PCI slab. And obviously, it is against EBAY rules. EBAY knows nothing about coins. They should hire someone who knows something about coins. >>

Of course, ebay also requires you to "completely and accurately describe" the item you are
selling.

doh · May 22, 2008 7:37AM

<< Perfect together---Ebay and the jerks who have nothing better to do than report auctions like mine >>

Not sure why the person who reported you is a jerk. You broke the rules. I'm not saying it's a good rule and I agree that eBay should hire some people who know about coins, but if you don't like their rules, don't play on their field.

Edited to add: Whoa, this thread is 2 1/2 months old...had no idea.

halfhunter · May 22, 2008 7:46AM

Why do I get this mental image of some 40 year old virgin, wearing horn rimmed glasses and a pocket protector, coming home to his mother's house from his bean counter job , going into his basement bedroom, firing up the Mac, and getting his jollies from policing the C&PM on eBay, reporting those dirty little transgressors!

Regards, John

busco69 · May 22, 2008 9:47AM

Gecko & Ksteelheader you realy think PCI should be grouped in with self slabbers?PCI is listed in the grey sheet.I know they aren't PCGS or NGC quality but they are listed in the Coin Dealer Newsletter Certified Coin Market Indicator.My point was they are not a self slabber and should be aloud to be listed on Ebay. GOT IT.

busco69 · May 22, 2008 9:50AM

<< Yeah, man. Im with you. Whenever I attend a show, I ALWAYS look for PCI slabbed pieces, cuz I know what kind of quality coins they certify! Now shut up and pass the shroom soup >>

I myself judge the coin not the slab maybe you don't have the skills to do this.

seatedcoins · May 22, 2008 10:16AM

<< 

<< Yeah, man. Im with you. Whenever I attend a show, I ALWAYS look for PCI slabbed pieces, cuz I know what kind of quality coins they certify! Now shut up and pass the shroom soup >>

I myself judge the coin not the slab maybe you don't have the skills to do this. >>

Tvac897 · May 22, 2008 10:34AM

I have to agree with the "consider it free money". Contact the buyer and do it outside of ebay.

TavernTreasures · May 23, 2008 10:46AM

There are rats in all walks of life. At work. they will run to the boss on any little thing even if it is a trivial matter. These same types are here and roam these boards. What difference does it make if a seller has a small mistake in an otherwise straight foward honest auction, that would be only a minor infraction of the NEW Ebay rules? These rats apparently have nothing better to do in their trivial little lives. So they become the policeman for EBAY. These rats know who they are. I have no respect for them.

seatedcoins · May 23, 2008 11:36AM

<< There are rats in all walks of life. At work. they will run to the boss on any little thing even if it is a trivial matter. These same types are here and roam these boards. What difference does it make if a seller has a small mistake in an otherwise straight foward honest auction, that would be only a minor infraction of the NEW Ebay rules? These rats apparently have nothing better to do in their trivial little lives. So they become the policeman for EBAY. These rats know who they are. I have no respect for them. >>

MY Ebay auction was deleted after item was sold

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