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extra paypal/ebay security - verisign ID protection - OT i suppose. -sellers take notice!

fcfc Posts: 12,804 ✭✭✭

paypal website explaining it link fixed.
ebay website explaining it

hey guys and gals. this is new to me, as in i just heard about it.
i use these little RSA verisign devices at work to log into uber secure websites that
control number portability for the telephone network and other misc stuff.

well it seems ebay/paypal have them now also.

basically it allows you to use your normal username and password, plus the number
the key fob generates every 30 seconds.

in other words, you can give anyone in the world you username and password, but without
the key fob they are locked out!

that is how it works and i heard it was only 5 bucks. i just ordered mine today and will simply
keep it on my key ring. it does not come auto activated so i will read the fine print before doing so.
I imagine you can get multiple if you are a business but it may not be fine tuned for a large business
yet who has multiple people logging in. it can be disabled, yada yada.

i shall play with one and i think it is worth mentioning here.

sorry to be off topic..

Comments

  • i have... and feel much more secure using it... highly recommend... though, I have for paypal... wish I could use with ebay too.



    edited: oh... It might work with ebay now? need to check that out... thanks for the reminder fc! image


    -sm
  • fcfc Posts: 12,804 ✭✭✭


    << <i>i have... and feel much more secure using it... highly recommend... though, I have for paypal... wish I could use with ebay too.



    edited: oh... It might work with ebay now? need to check that out... thanks for the reminder fc! image


    -sm >>



    ah, so ebay has yet to implement the login. that was one detail i was unsure of.
    i will learn more about it when it arrives in the mail. i just know exactly what this
    is used for and agree with it.
    it makes me feel safer to know my paypal account cannot get raided by a person
    who snatches my username and password because someone in my house download
    a shareware game to play tetris from a russian website... if you know what i mean.
  • i just clicked on the ebay part and it does seem you can attach your key now... did not do just yet... but seems to be available now... cool!






    -sm
  • jdillanejdillane Posts: 2,366 ✭✭✭
    This is the sort of OT that hopefully is welcomed by all.

    Thanks for sharing.
  • lathmachlathmach Posts: 4,720
    Wonderful.
    So.............................
    What's your Ebay and Paypal user name and password?
    Let's see if the guys here can beat it.
    And if they can Paypal all your money to themselves, they get to keep it.

    Ray


  • << <i>Wonderful.
    So.............................
    What's your Ebay and Paypal user name and password?
    Let's see if the guys here can beat it.
    And if they can Paypal all your money to themselves, they get to keep it.

    Ray >>








    my username is: urnuz
    my password is: kismyarse



    image





    -sm
  • fcfc Posts: 12,804 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Wonderful.
    So.............................
    What's your Ebay and Paypal user name and password?
    Let's see if the guys here can beat it.
    And if they can Paypal all your money to themselves, they get to keep it.

    Ray >>



    lathmatch, heh. if i had a throw away account i would gladly allow you to try.
    this technology has been used for at least several years now if not a decade.

    it is the best security i can think of when it comes to logging in and welcome it.

    nothing is perfect and the only situation i can think of is a hacker sitting around waiting
    for you to log into paypal and catching your keystrokes. they have approx 10-20 seconds
    to use that info to login before the verisign number expires. not very practical when they
    are used to owning people at their leisure.

    as in phishing attempts. you goto a fake website and plunk in your username and password.
    later on in the week/day/hour they collect the info and start using it for malicious means.

    anyway, i am going to use it after reading more about it and studying the fine print.
  • slipgateslipgate Posts: 2,301 ✭✭
    I'd be careful at getting too attached to this technolgy. Our company investigated these and the RSA fobs get tossed when the batteries die (you cannot replace the battery) and they cost $100/each, not the $5.00 teaser price you were quoted. My guess is they are getting people to buy into these and then will hit you with a bigger dollar amount when the unit needs replacement.
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  • numismanumisma Posts: 3,877 ✭✭✭✭

    Is this the what the world has become? Everything is locked down and bolted shut. Just checking my bank account online these days takes two screens of security measures. It feels like a bad science fiction movie.


  • << <i>Is this the what the world has become? Everything is locked down and bolted shut. Just checking my bank account online these days takes two screens of security measures. It feels like a bad science fiction movie. >>





    saldly enough.... yes this is what it has become... either try to stay lockup up or get plundered. image






    -sm
  • fcfc Posts: 12,804 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I'd be careful at getting too attached to this technolgy. Our company investigated these and the RSA fobs get tossed when the batteries die (you cannot replace the battery) and they cost $100/each, not the $5.00 teaser price you were quoted. My guess is they are getting people to buy into these and then will hit you with a bigger dollar amount when the unit needs replacement. >>



    How much does it cost?
    The PayPal Security Key is available for a special introductory fee of $5.00 USD. (The fee is non-refundable.) If your Security Key is lost or damaged, you can order a replacement for the same fee. If your Security Key malfunctions, please contact Customer Support. Order your Security Key


    ---
    ask me, they can buy these suckers in bulk very cheaply now days. it saves them money in the end
    with less fraud cases. they are trying to do good.

    if you do not want it one can always find a reason to poop on the idea.

    all i know is, the most important websites/databases we touch here at an ISP/telephone
    company all use these devices. end of story.
  • BECOKABECOKA Posts: 16,961 ✭✭✭
    This is great news. Lets us know when you get it and how well it works.

    SM, let us know when you figure out the e-bay side of things.
  • slipgateslipgate Posts: 2,301 ✭✭
    After carefully re-reading their ad for the fobs, I've changed my position and ordered one. We'll see how they work!
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  • YaHaYaHa Posts: 4,220


    << <i>

    << <i>Wonderful.
    So.............................
    What's your Ebay and Paypal user name and password?
    Let's see if the guys here can beat it.
    And if they can Paypal all your money to themselves, they get to keep it.

    Ray >>








    my username is: urnuz
    my password is: kismyarse



    Do you mean your username and password is UCrazyLipYourButtocks?


  • I've had one for months and use it for Ebay/Paypal. Put the number in after your password then you don't have to go to the second page. It's nice to know you have a little time to change your password if you click on something in error.
  • SLQSLQ Posts: 311 ✭✭

    I use these for logging into work from home, and the first one I had lasted over 5 years before it was replaced, and the battery was still good.

    I now have one for PayPal and EBay and feel safer when logging in through a hotel wireless network when traveling, unless I forget to bring it. Then I'm screwed.

  • oxy8890oxy8890 Posts: 1,416
    This is outstanding. Dual/multi authentication is by far the most secure way to go.
    Best Regards,

    Rob


    "Those guys weren't Fathers they were...Mothers."

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  • LokiLoki Posts: 897 ✭✭
    I ordered one just now. Thanks for letting us know about this fc. image
  • Just ordered mine thanks for the post
  • fcfc Posts: 12,804 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I use these for logging into work from home, and the first one I had lasted over 5 years before it was replaced, and the battery was still good.

    I now have one for PayPal and EBay and feel safer when logging in through a hotel wireless network when traveling, unless I forget to bring it. Then I'm screwed. >>



    key chain is prob the best place to store it. when do you ever leave
    the home and not take your house/car keys? you also keep an eye
    on such items all the time by our trained natural instinct.
  • GoldbullyGoldbully Posts: 18,496 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Got this in my email today.......

    Important new buyer identity protection

    Keeping eBay your trusted source for great deals and truly unique finds is important to all of us. Toward this end, we're making an important change:

    Soon we will no longer display the complete user IDs of people bidding on any auction-style listing. Instead, we'll use asterisks such as x***y to protect our members' identities. Sellers will continue to see complete user IDs on their listings and the winning bidder's ID will be visible to everyone after the auction ends.

    We haven't provided this information on listings of $200 or higher for some time and it's been a very effective fraud deterrent for those items. For safety reasons, we're now expanding this protection to all auction-style listings.

    We know many of you like to see who you're bidding against. But displaying this information makes it too easy for scammers to send out fake offers that include convincing details of your actual bidding activity on a specific listing, such as the item number, description and exact amount you bid.

    In recent weeks fraudulent email offers targeting listings under $200 has surged unacceptably. To keep eBay a top shopping destination we must choose safety over visibility and nip this in the bud. We recognize for some of you this may be an unwelcome limitation but we hope you'll support our putting more muscle into fraud prevention.

    If you have any questions please call Customer Service at 1-800-717-eBay (800-717-3229) or read our executive announcement.

    Sincerely,

    eBay Global Trust & Safety Team

    P.S. Safety tip: using an email address that is similar to your user ID also makes it easier for scammers to contact you. If your user ID makes it easy to guess your email address, it's worth changing your user ID in My eBay -> My Account -> Personal Information.
  • AZLARRYAZLARRY Posts: 1,189 ✭✭
    I like it, thanks for the information fc.
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  • fcfc Posts: 12,804 ✭✭✭
    my id protection dongle thiny arrived on saturday.
    it took me about 10 minutes to set it up, activate it, on ebay
    and paypal.

    i now enter my username and my password, and the webpage
    asks for the number after that.

    or you can enter your username and your password+number..
    without the + sign.

    nice to know people can steal my username and password but
    without the rsa dongle they are locked out.

    update for those who care. i am carrying it on my key chain.

    i also noted there is a way to get into your account even if you
    do not have your security key or lost it. you attempt to login
    and ebay will call you on your registered phone number to verify
    who you are and then you can get in.
  • MadMartyMadMarty Posts: 16,697 ✭✭✭
    Just ordered mine!
    It is not exactly cheating, I prefer to consider it creative problem solving!!!

  • smokincoinsmokincoin Posts: 2,636 ✭✭✭
    Got mine a couple of days ago. Activated it yesterday and today I get the not-so-infamous "you've encountered an internal error" message and can't log in.imageimage
  • OPAOPA Posts: 17,160 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I've had mine for about 3 weeks now & it works just fine not only on PayPal but also on eBay.
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  • smokincoinsmokincoin Posts: 2,636 ✭✭✭
    I just got off the phone with a drone and she said that the problem is affecting many, if not all, who have these "keys". Says they are working on it.
  • fcfc Posts: 12,804 ✭✭✭
    strange. i have been using my regularly without a problem.
    i login at least once if not twice a week since i got mine which was
    since march 17th.


    edited to add: i just tried it and encountered the error you are
    talking about. i am sure it will clear up in a few hours. thankfully
    i have nothing to bid on nor have to work with paypal.

    but just as i read they have an option that you use in case you
    want to get in without the security key. they will call you immediately
    or after 1 minute.

    i will not bother with that though.
  • smokincoinsmokincoin Posts: 2,636 ✭✭✭
    edited cause I just tried to link the error page to show you guys, but it didn't work.
  • bump.

    Ordered mine, just now. Thanks for the post.

    The downside to this.. automated sniping services won't work if I apply this to an ebay account. Upsides are good though. image
  • Had mine a couple of weeks now and love it

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