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Pine tree shilling! PCGS Results are in.

fastrudyfastrudy Posts: 2,096 ✭
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I was asked if I wanted to buy a collection which includes a pine tree shilling. Will see the collection (very small one) tomorrow. Can't divulge more presently. I don't know about grading, trends or probability of counterfeit pieces. Can anybody help me out with the value of this piece and what I have to look out for? Thanks in advance.

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  • commoncents05commoncents05 Posts: 10,099 ✭✭✭
    I would print off Heritage archives for different grades. This would be the best place to go for prices IMO.

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  • mrearlygoldmrearlygold Posts: 17,858 ✭✭✭
    Make the sale contingent on the Pine Tree being authenticated, take the coin on memo, send it to NGC and get it done. Or suggest that the seller does that. Then make an appropriate offer. Pay a fair price so that the seller and you are happy.

    Coin's for sale/trade.


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  • coinkatcoinkat Posts: 24,377 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Text Make the sale contingent on the Pine Tree being authenticated, take the coin on memo, send it to NGC and get it done. Or suggest that the seller does that. Then make an appropriate offer. Pay a fair price so that the seller and you are happy. >>




    Very smart advice and that is exactly what I would do if I were in your shoes.

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  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 47,509 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Good high resolution pics should enable some of our forum colonial coin experts to tell you if it' real or not.

    Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
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  • BAJJERFANBAJJERFAN Posts: 31,616 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Make the sale contingent on the Pine Tree being authenticated, take the coin on memo, send it to NGC and get it done. Or suggest that the seller does that. Then make an appropriate offer. Pay a fair price so that the seller and you are happy. >>



    Why NGC? Are they better than anyone else at that particular issue?

    I thought that pine tree shilling was gonna be some hot new secret bidding strategy on eBay. image
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  • ColonialCoinUnionColonialCoinUnion Posts: 10,087 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Why NGC? Are they better than anyone else at that particular issue? >>



    I'd send it to PCGS, but that's just me.
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  • HyperionHyperion Posts: 7,465 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Why NGC? Are they better than anyone else at that particular issue? >>



    I'd send it to PCGS, but that's just me. >>



    "coinflip" as it were.

    IMHO, NGC = PCGS whatevers least expensive for authentication.

    as far as concensus perceived plastic resale value? PCGS
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  • boiler78boiler78 Posts: 3,117 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I would send it to John Agre at coin rarities online for authentication and evaluation for possible submission to PCGSimage Better yet post a scan and I bet John could tell you if it is authentic then decide on possible submission. Good luck.
  • fastrudyfastrudy Posts: 2,096 ✭
    ttt for the sunday crowd
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  • STONESTONE Posts: 15,275 ✭
    Good luck with the collection and please give us many details on the gems he/ she may have.

    Pics would help too image
  • mgoodm3mgoodm3 Posts: 17,497 ✭✭✭
    We'll need pics.
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  • rgCoinGuyrgCoinGuy Posts: 7,478 ✭
    I don't know a lot about these, but yes, take your digital camera with you to take good pictures to post here. I am not sure about weights, but my understanding is there are different sizes also, so maybe also take something to be able to measure the diameter and thickness. I also understand there are a lot of counterfeits and replicas including some made in the 1930s as some sort of commemorative.
    imageQuid pro quo. Yes or no?
  • TomBTomB Posts: 22,960 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Unless you can comfortably attribute it as being an authentic piece you should hold off on actually buying the collection. There is too much downside on the possibility of a counterfeit.
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  • fastrudyfastrudy Posts: 2,096 ✭
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    Well, all I get are red XXXXXX's. Will try again
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  • fastrudyfastrudy Posts: 2,096 ✭
    image

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    There we go. Thanks, Stone
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  • ColonialCoinUnionColonialCoinUnion Posts: 10,087 ✭✭✭
    Looks like a genuine Noe 16 Pine Tree Shilling, Small Planchet like this one from Stack's Ford sale:

    imageimage

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  • jdillanejdillane Posts: 2,366 ✭✭✭
    Here's hoping its legit!
  • STONESTONE Posts: 15,275 ✭
    Not a problem.

    Looks crusty, I hope it comes back authentic.
  • fastrudyfastrudy Posts: 2,096 ✭
    Well, I sent it to PCGS for authenification, and, if it does not get body bagged, it is mine.
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  • rgCoinGuyrgCoinGuy Posts: 7,478 ✭
    Good luck! Hope it slabs for you! image
    imageQuid pro quo. Yes or no?
  • tmcsr69tmcsr69 Posts: 1,307 ✭


    << <i>Well, I sent it to PCGS for authenification, and, if it does not get body bagged, it is mine. >>



    Good choice of TPG.
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  • fastrudyfastrudy Posts: 2,096 ✭
    Well, the results are in!

    I have an authentic Pine Tree Shilling, slabbed VF35 by PCGS!!!image
    image
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  • STONESTONE Posts: 15,275 ✭
    Congrats

    imageimageimageimageimageimageimageimageimageimageimageimage
  • SpaceMonkeySpaceMonkey Posts: 3,311 ✭
    Sweet!


    Congrats!




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  • rgCoinGuyrgCoinGuy Posts: 7,478 ✭
    Good deal, congrats! image
    imageQuid pro quo. Yes or no?
  • blu62vetteblu62vette Posts: 11,968 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Congrads, great pick up!!!! Would love to have one of those someday.
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  • commoncents05commoncents05 Posts: 10,099 ✭✭✭
    Congrats!

    -Paul
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  • BigEBigE Posts: 6,949 ✭✭✭
    Wow, really neatimage Bet you ate a lot of popcorn in the last week!!!!!!!------------BigE
    I'm glad I am a Tree
  • BobSavBobSav Posts: 937 ✭✭✭
    That is an amazing coin. I don't know anything about them except that they are expensive and way out of my league.

    Bobimage
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  • fastrudyfastrudy Posts: 2,096 ✭
    It was luck!

    image

    I'm eating some now!
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  • DeadhorseDeadhorse Posts: 3,720 ✭


    << <i>That is an amazing coin. I don't know anything about them except that they are expensive and way out of my league.

    Bobimage >>



    Actually, from the prices I've researched in that grade, it isn't so expensive that most of us couldn't own one.

    I was surprised, I really expected more.

    Nice find and the kind of coin you don't consider selling.

    When you think of that era, it's a remarkable piece of history.
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    John Marnard Keynes, The Economic Consequences of the Peace, 1920, page 235ff
  • ahooka454ahooka454 Posts: 3,466 ✭
    Way to go man! Those are some of the coolest pieces there are! imageimageimage
  • BECOKABECOKA Posts: 16,961 ✭✭✭
    Wow, wish I had that kind of luck.

    Can I give you a you suck award?image
  • fastrudyfastrudy Posts: 2,096 ✭
    As long as there is a "you suck" award still available, sure, why not? I thought the guy with 8 rolls of Walkers took all of them.
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  • DJCoinzDJCoinz Posts: 3,856 ✭
    Awesome! Congrats!
    aka Dan
  • RYKRYK Posts: 35,800 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I am glad that worked out for you. Congrats. image
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  • percybpercyb Posts: 3,339 ✭✭✭✭
    Congrats!!
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  • mustanggtmustanggt Posts: 2,692 ✭✭✭✭✭
    imagecongratulationsimage
  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 47,509 ✭✭✭✭✭
    image

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  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Congratulations.. with a big, super GOOD FOR YOU!!!! That is a neat acquisition. Cheers, RickO
  • gripgrip Posts: 9,962 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Way to go man! Those are some of the coolest pieces there are! imageimageimage >>



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  • ConnecticoinConnecticoin Posts: 13,272 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i> I thought the guy with 8 rolls of Walkers took all of them. >>



    Link? I missed that one.
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  • MrEurekaMrEureka Posts: 24,671 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Nice coin, Rudy. BTW, what did you have to pay for the coin?

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  • fcloudfcloud Posts: 12,133 ✭✭✭✭
    image

    Nice coin and results!

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  • fastrudyfastrudy Posts: 2,096 ✭
    << I thought the guy with 8 rolls of Walkers took all of them. >>

    link


    $3500. for the shilling
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  • NumisOxideNumisOxide Posts: 11,036 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Congrats on a cool coin!
  • MidLifeCrisisMidLifeCrisis Posts: 10,613 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Well, the results are in!

    I have an authentic Pine Tree Shilling, slabbed VF35 by PCGS!!! >>


    Congrats! That's really cool. I'm soooo jealous. image
  • LeeGLeeG Posts: 12,162 ✭
    Very Nice!!!!!!!! Congrat's image
  • ConnecticoinConnecticoin Posts: 13,272 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i><< I thought the guy with 8 rolls of Walkers took all of them. >>

    link

    >>



    $80 to $1,100 --- a borderline "You Suck" -- but certainly a "nice score".

    The MadMarty 1962 66FBL Frankie and Dheath 68DCAM JFK are still the "Suck" standard setters.
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  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,456 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Awesome image
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