Holy crap!!! Look at my grades!! - Update - They're here!

Tootawl · January 14, 2008 2:15PM

I sent in an unopened box of 10 2007-W SAEs. I just my grades:

Line # Item # Cert # PCGS No. CoinDate Denomination Variety Country Grade
1 1 11999471 150446 2007-W $1 Eagle US MS70
1 2 11999472 150446 2007-W $1 Eagle US MS70
1 3 11999473 150446 2007-W $1 Eagle US MS70
1 4 11999474 150446 2007-W $1 Eagle US MS70
1 5 11999475 150446 2007-W $1 Eagle US MS70
1 6 11999476 150446 2007-W $1 Eagle US MS70
1 7 11999477 150446 2007-W $1 Eagle US MS70
1 8 11999478 150446 2007-W $1 Eagle US MS69
1 9 11999479 150446 2007-W $1 Eagle US MS69
1 10 11999480 150446 2007-W $1 Eagle US MS70

Total Items: 10

Swampboy · January 14, 2008 2:16PM

Wow!

Julio · January 14, 2008 2:16PM

Dang. That's good or the mint is getting much better.

. jws

DJCoinz · January 14, 2008 2:18PM

Sweet...congrats man.

zenny · January 14, 2008 2:18PM

i feel your pain on #s 8 & 9....

hehe

GoldenEyeNumismatics · January 14, 2008 2:25PM

Sheesh. Nice score!

COINB0Y · January 14, 2008 2:26PM

NGC, right?

Bochiman · January 14, 2008 2:29PM

<< NGC, right? >>

The "new" ANACS?

Tootawl · January 14, 2008 2:29PM

<< 

<< NGC, right? >>

The "new" ANACS?

>>

PCGS!

GAT · January 14, 2008 2:32PM

How much was the payola???

FLBuffaloHunter · January 14, 2008 2:33PM

Seems the quality of the Mint Uncirculated issues has been improving of late. The Dolley Madion spouse Uncirculated coin has a 64% 70 ratio

Bochiman · January 14, 2008 2:34PM

The MS70s, if 1st strike, likely are still $150-$190/ea
The MS69 are about break-even to losing money.

Not sure of non-1st strike pricing....like a bit less.

HonoluluDude · January 14, 2008 2:37PM

Nice score. They're going for between $150-$180 on ebay recently. Dump 'em before the milk spot invasion takes over.

Tootawl · January 14, 2008 2:37PM

<< The MS70s, if 1st strike, likely are still $150-$190/ea
The MS69 are about break-even to losing money.

Not sure of non-1st strike pricing....like a bit less.

>>

They do have a First Strike label.

COINB0Y · January 14, 2008 2:49PM

I was just kidding. Those are fantastic results! You suck!!

NumisOxide · January 14, 2008 2:54PM

BECOKA · January 14, 2008 3:15PM

Great, keep the 69's for investment and sell the 70's quick.

FLBuffaloHunter · January 14, 2008 3:17PM

<< Great, keep the 69's for investment and sell the 70's quick.

>>

I thought you should always keep the best for your collection since it has the best chance of appreciating with a much higher condition rarity.

BECOKA · January 14, 2008 3:22PM

<< 

<< Great, keep the 69's for investment and sell the 70's quick.

>>

I thought you should always keep the best for your collection since it has the best chance of appreciating with a much higher condition rarity. >>

In this case I think there will be so many 70's that he has a better chance investing the profits and keeping the 69's to go with the silver market.

FLBuffaloHunter · January 14, 2008 3:27PM

<< 

<< 

<< Great, keep the 69's for investment and sell the 70's quick.

>>

I thought you should always keep the best for your collection since it has the best chance of appreciating with a much higher condition rarity. >>

In this case I think there will be so many 70's that he has a better chance investing the profits and keeping the 69's to go with the silver market. >>

But then again there are alot of silver eagle collectors and there will always be more 69 than 70's so if the 69's go up, the 70's would also. Your biggest concern is milk spots, the main reason I no longer collect them.

Deadhorse · January 14, 2008 3:28PM

Buy a lotto ticket quick!

Strike while the iron's hot.

I'd have been happy if the grades were reversed and I only made two 70s.

That's a damn sweet submission.

DUIGUY · January 14, 2008 3:29PM

<< 

<< 

<< NGC, right? >>

The "new" ANACS?

>>

PCGS! >>

You ROCK! I do not care what MadMarty says about you!

Moki · January 14, 2008 3:53PM

Way to go! Just hope its not a clerical posting error . . .

Dawg144 · January 14, 2008 4:01PM

You almost suck.

BECOKA · January 14, 2008 4:25PM

<< 

<< 

<< 

<< Great, keep the 69's for investment and sell the 70's quick.

>>

I thought you should always keep the best for your collection since it has the best chance of appreciating with a much higher condition rarity. >>

In this case I think there will be so many 70's that he has a better chance investing the profits and keeping the 69's to go with the silver market. >>

But then again there are alot of silver eagle collectors and there will always be more 69 than 70's so if the 69's go up, the 70's would also. Your biggest concern is milk spots, the main reason I no longer collect them. >>

good point that would be why I don't collect them either.

Unless of course I can get them at bullion prices.

LeeG · January 14, 2008 7:43PM

Super Nice Results!!!!!!!! Congrat's!!!!!!!!

JimDepot · January 14, 2008 8:34PM

<< Nice score. They're going for between $150-$180 on ebay recently. Dump 'em before the milk spot invasion takes over. >>

Dreaded milk spots, somebody ought to make a movie.

"Attack of the Milk Spots"

"Revenge of the Milk Spots"

Tootawl · January 14, 2008 10:58PM

I still can't get over that I got 8 ms70s from an unopened box.

cmerlo1 · January 14, 2008 11:00PM

Outstanding! Congrats!

ricko · January 14, 2008 11:31PM

Those are truly amazing results... congratulations.. Cheers, RickO

MrEureka · January 14, 2008 11:48PM

The most effective way for a TPG to minimize the potential financial damage caused by milk spots is to lower the standards (and thus, the value) for MS70 coins. I'm not saying that this policy change has indeed happened, because I have no clue, but these grading results make me think it's a distinct possibility. Again, this is pure speculation.

In any event, now might be a very good time to resubmit your PQ69 ASEs of earlier dates. Of course, you should dump the upgrades before the market adjusts.

tmot99 · January 14, 2008 11:49PM

ambro51 · January 14, 2008 11:53PM

Now if you could only do that with a roll of pennie$.

ChuckC · January 15, 2008 12:04AM

Wow, Christmas came late this year!

MadMarty · January 15, 2008 12:08AM

It's just Bullion Modern Crap!!!

Nice order Cliff... Who did you have pick them out for you?

YaHa · January 15, 2008 12:24AM

<< 

<< Nice score. They're going for between $150-$180 on ebay recently. Dump 'em before the milk spot invasion takes over. >>

Dreaded milk spots, somebody ought to make a movie.

"Attack of the Milk Spots"

"Revenge of the Milk Spots" >>

No, the correct movie title would be. "Invasion Of the Milk Spots"

STONE · January 15, 2008 12:39AM

I think this means I might have to stop dogging NGC about their giving out of so many 70's.

BTW- Nice haul

FatMan · January 15, 2008 12:55AM

<< The most effective way for a TPG to minimize the potential financial damage caused by milk spots is to lower the standards (and thus, the value) for MS70 coins. I'm not saying that this policy change has indeed happened, because I have no clue, but these grading results make me think it's a distinct possibility. Again, this is pure speculation.

In any event, now might be a very good time to resubmit your PQ69 ASEs of earlier dates. Of course, you should dump the upgrades before the market adjusts. >>

A New Day at PCGS!

Not only lowers potential liability, but also gets a step into the doors of the TV guys. Definitely worth watching for modern collectors because as 70s flow easier, the value of 70s in collector's hands will fall accordingly.

edited to add: Nice results Cliff!

eddyemack · January 15, 2008 1:01AM

Very nice. WTG. Congrats!

eddye mack

ziggy29 · January 15, 2008 1:06AM

If quality control keeps getting better to the point where 70s are common, even from PCGS, I think it will kill the aftermarket for these pieces since it's the cherrypicking and slabbing for 70s where "the money" is. The Mint may want to ratchet back a little bit if they want to keep people interested. If everything becomes a 70, there goes the market (IMO).

TwoSides2aCoin · January 15, 2008 1:08AM

Hoard the keys

ambro51 · January 15, 2008 1:20AM

The mint could go back to letting them fly out of the press into big cans....Then put them in sacks and toss them around in vaults for years. that would take care of those 70's.....

You have to respect the grade, but take it with a grain of salt given the coin it is placed on. They are still looking for ONE ms70 morgan or peace dollar....and they will probably look forever, and not find one.

pendragon1998 · January 15, 2008 1:23AM

Sounds like you can afford a nice giveaway

xbob · January 15, 2008 2:06AM

I'll come out of lurking to say this...

YOU SUCK!

veryfine · January 15, 2008 4:13AM

This is a good opportunity to compare an MS70 to an MS69. What differences, if any, do you observe?

lordmarcovan · January 15, 2008 4:15AM

Wow!

SeattleSlammer · January 15, 2008 4:24AM

If quality control keeps getting better to the point where 70s are common, even from PCGS, I think it will kill the aftermarket for these pieces since it's the cherrypicking and slabbing for 70s where "the money" is. The Mint may want to ratchet back a little bit if they want to keep people interested. If everything becomes a 70, there goes the market (IMO).

The mint may want to ratchet back a little bit?!

Are you kidding me?!

Resubmit this submission and I bet half of those 70s turn into 69s and vice versa.

The "market" for these is as full of smoke and mirrors as it has always been. I agree with the consensus that you should strike while the iron is hot and use your 70s to separate the suckers from their money.

coolest · January 15, 2008 4:41AM

Can you see any difference between the 69s and the 70s?

grip · January 15, 2008 4:53AM

. I agree with the consensus that you should strike while the iron is hot and use your 70s to separate the suckers from their money.

Tootawl · January 15, 2008 6:17AM

<< Can you see any difference between the 69s and the 70s? >>

I don't have them yet. I do have a 2007W SAE MS70 in my set and no, I can't tell the difference between that and a 69 except in what the MS70 cost me.

SeattleSlammer · January 15, 2008 7:42AM

I do have a 2007W SAE MS70 in my set and no, I can't tell the difference between that and a 69 except in what the MS70 cost me.

Tootawl, that's refreshing honesty!

Holy crap!!! Look at my grades!! - Update - They're here!

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