What would you grade this 1959 Cameo Franklin Proof?

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• Russ Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭

  January 8, 2008 8:31AM

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• JoeTheCoinMan Posts: 367 ✭

  January 8, 2008 8:31AM

  Try it now.

  Thanks,
  Joseph

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• Russ Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭

  January 8, 2008 8:33AM

  Ah, I see you fixed it. The coin grades between PR61 and PR69 depending on how many impossible to detect from images hairlines it has.
  
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• cheezhed Posts: 6,315 ✭✭✭✭✭

  January 8, 2008 8:33AM

  Is that a spot at 6 o'clock above the "W"?

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• cmerlo1 Posts: 8,028 ✭✭✭✭✭

  January 8, 2008 8:33AM

  66CAM, DCAM maybe- can't tell from the photos. I like it!

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• fiftycom Posts: 161

  January 8, 2008 8:34AM

  PR67Cam..
  
  Nice score.

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• JoeTheCoinMan Posts: 367 ✭

  January 8, 2008 8:34AM

  
  
  << <i>Is that a spot at 6 o'clock above the "W"? >>
  
  
  
  Very small but yes.

  Thanks,
  Joseph

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• JJM Posts: 8,127 ✭✭✭✭✭

  January 8, 2008 8:34AM

  
  The coin grades between PR61 and PR69 depending on how many impossible to detect from images hairlines it has.
  
  ouch

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• JoeTheCoinMan Posts: 367 ✭

  January 8, 2008 8:37AM

  Note: There is one nick on the chest.
  
  And two small spots on the coin.
  
  There are virtually no hairlines.

  Thanks,
  Joseph

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• greghansen Posts: 4,301 ✭✭✭

  January 8, 2008 8:43AM

  '59 is a very tough date to catch in cameo. Does not appear to be DCAM. Could be a 67 or 68. It is all about the hairlines that virtually impossible to evaluate from a photograph. Just offering an opinion based on what I can see.

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• JoeTheCoinMan Posts: 367 ✭

  January 8, 2008 8:52AM

  
  
  << <i>'59 is a very tough date to catch in cameo. Does not appear to be DCAM. Could be a 67 or 68. It is all about the hairlines that virtually impossible to evaluate from a photograph. Just offering an opinion based on what I can see. >>
  
  
  
  But what would you say it is if it has no hairlines, two small spots, one mark on the chest, and a flawless reverse. From what I can tell, there are no hairlines.

  Thanks,
  Joseph

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• LanLord Posts: 11,754 ✭✭✭✭✭

  January 8, 2008 8:54AM

  
  
  << <i>The coin grades between PR61 and PR69 depending on how many impossible to detect from images hairlines it has. ouch >>
  
  That's probably the only correct answer that can be said of a picture grade thread. There could be so many hairlines that are hidden by trickery it's laughable to even attempt to give a grade.

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• itsnotjustme Posts: 8,786 ✭✭✭

  January 8, 2008 1:54PM

  Real nicks are uncommon on proofs.... I suspect those chest nicks hurt. And it looks like a scuff on the obv at 1000.
  
  Clearly CAM, would need to see in hand to judge possibility of DCAM. Probably 66 if no unseen distractions.

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• BECOKA Posts: 16,961 ✭✭✭

  January 8, 2008 2:26PM

  Really difficult to tell from that photo. The angle and reflection could be hiding a lot. If it's not it may be around a PR67CAM

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• Russ Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭

  January 9, 2008 1:59AM

  
  
  << <i>There could be so many hairlines that are hidden by trickery >>
  
  
  
  It's not about trickery. Hairlines are just flat impossible to capture in an image of a proof coin without shooting under extremely harsh light at a severe angle.
  
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• Heywood Posts: 1,246 ✭✭✭

  January 9, 2008 2:05AM

  Pr-66CAM

  
  
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• Coinhog Posts: 1,336

  January 9, 2008 2:07AM

  proof 65 half cam. Com on obverse only. Based on your images of course. may be different in hand

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• vplite Posts: 1,385 ✭✭✭

  January 9, 2008 2:14AM

  
  
  << <i>Note: There is one nick on the chest.
  
  And two small spots on the coin.
  
  There are virtually no hairlines. >>
  
  
  
  That's a shame. The milk spots will probably only grow. I would grade it "melt" or about $5.70.
  
  But if you hurry you could get $10 - $20 on the 'bay.
  
  

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• HighRelief Posts: 3,728 ✭✭✭✭✭

  January 9, 2008 2:15AM

  The picture makes Franklin looking like he is having a bad hair day. Looks PR67 Cam

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• ricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

  January 9, 2008 3:08AM

  With spots, not too good.... may BB.... Cheers, RickO

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• SanctionII Posts: 12,951 ✭✭✭✭✭

  January 9, 2008 3:17AM

  Cameo Franklins are one of my favorite coins. 1959 is a very hard date to find in CAM or DCAM. Your coin is no doubt a CAM and maybe even a DCAM (hard to tell from the pics). The grade can not be determined since pics do not reveal hairlines or the absence of same.
  
  I would love to have your coin in my collection.
  
  Tell us the details of how you acquired this coin. If you cherrypicked it out of a raw proof set for bid, then you got a great score.

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• JoeTheCoinMan Posts: 367 ✭

  January 9, 2008 6:05AM

  I will post some more pics of it tonight, I am sure the back is cameo.

  Thanks,
  Joseph

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• sinin1 Posts: 7,500 ✭

  January 9, 2008 12:54PM

  I like it
  
  PR67 or PR68
  
  
  unless there are hairlines than PR65 max
  
  
  
  may go CAM, need direct on photo to closer tell

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