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ahooka454
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John E Paaul (51) of Wisconsin was sentenced to 46 months in prison for not sending coins to winning bidders from ebay. its in cw jan. 7th issue. page 10. $ 171000 worth of winning bids. no coins. what are some thoughts on this?
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``https://ebay.us/m/KxolR5
to lower his cost of operations.
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<< <i>So, his annual salary for the crime is equivalent to over forty grand per year TAKE HOME pay, 3 hots and a cot all courtesy of taxpayers. Who said crime doesn't pay ? Not only that, he gets anonymity. No junk mail, no messy tax forms, and cable television. America is such a great country. I hope he practices abstinence.
Maybe he'll also get a lonely roommate in prison.
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<< <i>Is there restitution as part of the sentence? >>
That was my first thought, along with the idea of which sort of prison is it?
For all we know, he may be out in 18 months.
New eBay ID, become a scammer as opposed to a rip off artist and he could do quite well ala the infamously wealthy "Savanna Scammer", AKA Pamela Donelly.
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46 bottles of beer
If a bottle of beer should fall from the wall
45 bottles of beer on the wall.
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<< <i>John E Paaul (51) of Wisconsin was sentenced to 46 months in prison for not sending coins to winning bidders from ebay. its in cw jan. 7th issue. page 10. $ 171000 worth of winning bids. no coins. what are some thoughts on this? >>
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<< <i>U.S. District Judge Barbara Crabb sentenced Paul to 46 months in prison and ordered him to pay back the $165,000 >>
Yeah...just don't hold your breath waiting for restitution...
And he is probably still an eBay power seller
<< <i>Another guy here locally just got a ton of probation and restitution judgement for doing the same thing with laptops. I think it was about $20k total. Making restitution payments is part of the probation conditions. >>
As well as part of the terms for an otherwise lighter sentence.
I know someone who was widowed, and he took up with a woman who was a con artist. She married him and proceeded to get him unwittingly involved in some embezzlement of an account she had power of attorney for. She wound up with a lot of jail time but he got a couple months' house arrest followed by probation and restitution, because it was obvious to the prosecution that she was the driving force behind it all and he was a dupe. She had some priors and some aliases that he didn't know about and got snagged into her web, whereas he spent many years as the treasurer of his union before he retired and there was never a question about where one dollar went while he wrote the checks.
<< <i>Ohhh, 46 bottles of beer on the wall
46 bottles of beer
If a bottle of beer should fall from the wall
45 bottles of beer on the wall. >>
45 bottles of beer on the wall
45 bottles of beer
If a bottle of beer should fall from the wall
44 bottles of beer on the wall.
Coin's for sale/trade.
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Steve
<< <i>Do they have internet access in the slammer? Perhaps he will continue to sell non-existent coins from his cell.... >>
Of course they do... How else is he going to generate funds for resititution?
Seems like a fair sentence if he can make his victims whole - almost 4 yrs in the clink. As I recall, the federal sentences tend to be served in full - no 'early outs'. I am sure others have a better perspective on this - I don't know any criminals.
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<< <i>Ohhh, 46 bottles of beer on the wall
46 bottles of beer
If a bottle of beer should fall from the wall
45 bottles of beer on the wall. >>
45 bottles of beer on the wall
45 bottles of beer
If a bottle of beer should fall from the wall
44 bottles of beer on the wall. >>
44 bottles of beer on the wall
44 bottles of beer
If an earthquake should cause the whole wall to fall
Then no more bottles of beer or a wall.
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<< <i>I don't know any criminals. >>
Sure you do -- you just don't know what crimes they've comitted.
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RJ