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My 17th Birthmark Die - man, did NGC blow this one!
Russ
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Number 17 arrived today:
It's in an MS66 (no cam) holder, but it's a slam dunk cameo! In fact, it's stronger than one of my NGC UCAM examples.
It's from the same submission as my 16th example, which is also contrasted but not slam dunk cameo. This was apparently a larger submission of 1967 SMS Kennedys, and I've seen multiple examples appear recently, (only a couple BM die examples so far). None of them graded cameo, so I think the graders just went in to auto mode as they went through the submission and didn't designate this one as it should have been.
Russ, NCNE
It's in an MS66 (no cam) holder, but it's a slam dunk cameo! In fact, it's stronger than one of my NGC UCAM examples.
It's from the same submission as my 16th example, which is also contrasted but not slam dunk cameo. This was apparently a larger submission of 1967 SMS Kennedys, and I've seen multiple examples appear recently, (only a couple BM die examples so far). None of them graded cameo, so I think the graders just went in to auto mode as they went through the submission and didn't designate this one as it should have been.
Russ, NCNE
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The biggest question is--- will it sticker?
Didn't wanna get me no trade
Never want to be like papa
Working for the boss every night and day
--"Happy", by the Rolling Stones (1972)
<< <i>The biggest question is--- will it sticker? >>
They don't do modern trash.
Russ, NCNE
<< <i>Nice one. I think that looks at least CAM to me.
The biggest question is--- will it sticker? >>
nice Kennedy Russ
Lincoln set Colorless Set
"man, did NGC blow this one!"
should have sent it to PCGS. Why give the competition the $$$?
Too many positive BST transactions with too many members to list.
<< <i>should have sent it to PCGS. Why give the competition the $$$? >>
I don't know. You'll probably need to ask the dealer I bought it from.
Russ, NCNE
Nice coin!
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<< <i>should have sent it to PCGS. Why give the competition the $$$? >>
I don't know. You'll probably need to ask the dealer I bought it from.
Russ, NCNE >>
So you did not submit? Bought it cheap from a dealer because NGC missed?
Next step PCGS crossover and then a designation review if necessary?
<< <i>So you did not submit? Bought it cheap from a dealer because NGC missed? >>
Correct. Got it for $35 shipped.
<< <i>Next step PCGS crossover and then a designation review if necessary? >>
No crossover. I'll just crack it out and submit it raw. It's also a slam dunk cameo at PCGS.
Russ, NCNE
I gotten that sort of treatment from both the big two. Had one resubmission get downgraded from a 65 to a 63 and still no CAM and it's DCAM all day long.
Hmmm........ I wonder why my submissions have gone down 90% over the last couple of years?
I'm just a nobody, but now they're taking a bite out of the big dog. Doesn't exactly give me a lot of confidence, but at least I know it's not just me.
John Marnard Keynes, The Economic Consequences of the Peace, 1920, page 235ff
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<< <i>So you did not submit? Bought it cheap from a dealer because NGC missed? >>
Correct. Got it for $35 shipped.
<< <i>Next step PCGS crossover and then a designation review if necessary? >>
No crossover. I'll just crack it out and submit it raw. It's also a slam dunk cameo at PCGS.
Russ, NCNE >>
Did you find it online or you have a standing order with every dealer in the country? You seem to find a lot of nice cam/dcam gems.
Great find by the way.
<< <i>Did you find it online or you have a standing order with every dealer in the country? >>
eBay for this one. Same dealer from whom I got #16.
Russ, NCNE
Just goes to show that you can find good deals out there if you have the time to dig them out.
“In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock." - Thomas Jefferson
My digital cameo album 1950-64 Cameos - take a look!
<< <i>Whats the diff between the dies? >>
The primary die marker is the shiny patch that appears in Kennedy's hair above the sideburn near the forehead. There are also two secondary markers. Here's a stronger example where the primary is more visible, and the secondaries are circled:
There are also multiple reverse diagnostics, but the Cult Of The Birthmark Die would revoke my membership if I revealed them.
Russ, NCNE
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<< <i>Did you find it online or you have a standing order with every dealer in the country? >>
eBay for this one. Same dealer from whom I got #16.
Russ, NCNE >>
So what did his pics look like?
<< <i>So what did his pics look like? >>
Small, dark, and crappy.
Russ, NCNE
<< <i> Cult Of The Birthmark Die >>
What are the criteria for joining (or am I grandfathered in?)?
Seems to me that a ™ is in order.
“In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock." - Thomas Jefferson
My digital cameo album 1950-64 Cameos - take a look!
IF you have to ask, you cannot be a member!
Thanks Russ
Russ, NCNE
An authorized PCGS dealer, and a contributor to the Red Book.
j/k!!!! That should have been a slam cam.
Hell, I don't need to exercise.....I get enough just pushing my luck.
next...
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So is #16 posted in this thread.
Russ, NCNE
<< <i>Coin is now in a PCGS MS66CAM holder.
So is #16 posted in this thread.
Russ, NCNE >>
Sweet coin Russ!
Congrats on the BM additions and the CAM designations.
Joe