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  • mozeppamozeppa Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭
    what is the case?

    what do you see wrong?
  • kevinstangkevinstang Posts: 1,520 ✭✭✭


    << <i>1827 BUST HALF AU BU UNC GEM SLABBED GRADED OLD SILVER >>



    I think the title says it all- so which is it? AU or MS-65?
  • MyqqyMyqqy Posts: 9,777
    Linky doo

    What is that, about a cleaned vf20, net f15? image
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  • jdillanejdillane Posts: 2,365 ✭✭✭
    But it's a gem unc!
  • JRoccoJRocco Posts: 14,277 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I bet that plastic is hiding more than just wear. It is probably a problem coin in addition to grading in the Fine range
    Some coins are just plain "Interesting"
  • jdillanejdillane Posts: 2,365 ✭✭✭
    Aside from the VF details and the obvious harsh cleaning, I do not see a problem.
  • messydeskmessydesk Posts: 20,192 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>But it's a gem unc! >>


    AND old.
  • planetsteveplanetsteve Posts: 1,425 ✭✭✭✭
    After the authenticity guarantee, we read this:

    Coins cannot be returned due to grade discrepancies, as any numeric grade given is an opinion, or due to cleaning.

    Geesh.

    This item uses every buzzword in the title except "certified." I hope that ebay buyers are educated enough to know that no "certified" designation means it's (generally) a scam.
  • drwstr123drwstr123 Posts: 7,045 ✭✭✭✭✭
    You all misunderstand. It's MS65 since it's last polishing. Mike
  • TexastTexast Posts: 1,899 ✭✭✭✭
    Maybe frankcoins will get it for 1 cent...image
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  • OPAOPA Posts: 17,136 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>http://cgi.ebay.com/1827-BUST-HALF-AU-BU-UNC-GEM-SLABBED-GRADED-OLD-SILVER_W0QQitemZ150178825125QQihZ005QQcategoryZ11969QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

    I rest my case...

    Edgar >>



    NGS graded!!! What case are you resting?
    Another 4th tier slabber that I never heard of. I'm surprised that it's only graded a 65.
    "Bongo drive 1984 Lincoln that looks like old coin dug from ground."
  • fcfc Posts: 12,793 ✭✭✭
    i am not sure i would even bid melt. prob a coin from china and not
    even silver :-|
  • LOL he changes his ebay name every 6 months.......
  • DoogyDoogy Posts: 4,508


    << <i>Maybe frankcoins will get it for 1 cent...image >>



    but then he'll whine that he can't resell it on the 'bay using the NGS name
  • BlindedByEgoBlindedByEgo Posts: 10,754 ✭✭✭✭✭
    What case? POC in garage plastic on Ebay. What a surprise.
  • notwilightnotwilight Posts: 12,864 ✭✭✭
    I see no conclusions you can draw looking at this auction except about the seller and the TPG. Nothing to do with plastic in general or top tier graders. --Jerry
  • rec78rec78 Posts: 5,804 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Just another self-slabber. I may bid on the MS68 barger dime.image -Dont think so!!!!!!!!
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  • UncleJoeUncleJoe Posts: 2,551 ✭✭✭
    What's the problem? It comes with a:

    GUARENTEE

    I will gladly accept returns if the coin is deemed not-authentic. If not-authentic, I will refund 150% of the purchase price!! You cannot get that guarentee anywhere! Coins cannot be returned due to grade discrepancies, as any numeric grade given is an opinion, or due to cleaning.

    Joe.
  • Never-Never buy plastic?? Based upon an obviously tainted coin in a unknown third party case. An AU to Bu 1827 half go's for $250 to $500. Begining price is less than $4.00. I don't understand how that would equate to never buying Coins encased in plastic.
  • Sure, Numismatic Grading Service (NGS) may "GUARENTEE" authenticity.......However, only the skilled artisans at Southern Numismatic Grading Authority (SNGA) hand paint the "yellow sun" over the Coin World logo (turnaround times subject to availability of yellow nail polish).


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  • BAJJERFANBAJJERFAN Posts: 31,209 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Is that one of eBay's preferred TPG's? LOL
    theknowitalltroll;
  • morgansforevermorgansforever Posts: 8,465 ✭✭✭✭✭
    "I will gladly accept returns if the coin is deemed not-authentic. If not-authentic, I will refund 150% of the purchase price!! You cannot get that guarentee anywhere! Coins cannot be returned due to grade discrepancies, as any numeric grade given is an opinion, or due to cleaning".

    Another words there is no return. Of course it's authenic, but it's a cleaned VF Bustie.

    He or she is obviously coving their butt.

    How is this a great example?

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  • << <i>Never, NEVER buy PLASTIC! What a GREAT EXAMPLE!

    I rest my case...

    Edgar >>



    Actually, it's a typical example of a crappy Ebay scam using a self-slab. As pointed out by several others, this has nothing to do with buying coins in reputable holders.
  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The scammers are getting desperate.. and, still finding suckers. Cheers, RickO
  • bestdaybestday Posts: 4,242 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>LOL he changes his ebay name every 6 months....... >>



    Poor Ebay..stock has dropped almost 20 % from it's high...analysts now downgrading the stock for slower growth....well let in scammers, while knocking down honest sellers.
    No wonder , I and my collector club friends have sharply curtailed Ebay purchases in 2007. image
  • NysotoNysoto Posts: 3,821 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Some are missing FEVER's point. Make your buying decision from an assessment of the coin itself, regardless of the TPG, this is an extreme example of gross overgrading of a cleaned coin. There are PCGS and NGC slabbed coins that are overgraded, cleaned, misattributed, AT'ed, dipped...
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  • OPAOPA Posts: 17,136 ✭✭✭✭✭


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    << <i>LOL he changes his ebay name every 6 months....... >>



    Poor Ebay..stock has dropped almost 20 % from it's high...analysts now downgrading the stock for slower growth....well let in scammers, while knocking down honest sellers.
    No wonder , I and my collector club friends have sharply curtailed Ebay purchases in 2007. image >>


    Good ... less competition when I bid.image
    "Bongo drive 1984 Lincoln that looks like old coin dug from ground."
  • LindeDadLindeDad Posts: 18,766 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Frank likes it? But then the bid is under melt for now.
  • joecopperjoecopper Posts: 1,195 ✭✭✭
    Bit at least we have the front and back of the holder!!!!!
  • bestdaybestday Posts: 4,242 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>LOL he changes his ebay name every 6 months....... >>



    Poor Ebay..stock has dropped almost 20 % from it's high...analysts now downgrading the stock for slower growth....well let in scammers, while knocking down honest sellers.
    No wonder , I and my collector club friends have sharply curtailed Ebay purchases in 2007. image >>


    Good ... less competition when I bid.image >>



    Take all the sloppy 2nds you wantimage
  • messydeskmessydesk Posts: 20,192 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Frank likes it? But then the bid is under melt for now. >>


    What's melt value of plastic?
  • Nysoto is correct. Always buy the coin - never BECAUSE it is in plastic.

    Edgar
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  • seateddimeseateddime Posts: 6,180 ✭✭✭
    This listing (150178825125) has been removed or is no longer available. Please make sure you entered the right item number.
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  • pharmerpharmer Posts: 8,355


    << <i>Sure, Numismatic Grading Service (NGS) may "GUARENTEE" authenticity.......However, only the skilled artisans at Southern Numismatic Grading Authority (SNGA) hand paint the "yellow sun" over the Coin World logo (turnaround times subject to availability of yellow nail polish).


    image >>



    Now that is hilarious! Thanks for the morning yuksimage
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  • ebay had just recently put the brakes on the seller's key word (PCGS) spamming, now this...




    << <i>This listing (150178825125) has been removed or is no longer available. Please make sure you entered the right item number. >>

  • notwilightnotwilight Posts: 12,864 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Some are missing FEVER's point. Make your buying decision from an assessment of the coin itself, regardless of the TPG, this is an extreme example of gross overgrading of a cleaned coin. There are PCGS and NGC slabbed coins that are overgraded, cleaned, misattributed, AT'ed, dipped... >>



    Generally when a point is so strongly overstated that there is no logic ties between the evidence presented and the conclusion drawn, it will be missed. Readers clearly don't like the auction referenced but can't make the leap to the conclusion in the subject line. --Jerry

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