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Four rolls of Gold Eagles missing.....Update, found

I have been doing some work for the owner of a small machine shop near me.
I delivered an order of parts to his home early this afternoon.
He's been living in a small house trailer since his house burned, and is presently having a house built on the same site overlooking Lake Michigan.
I drove up just as the carpenter crew was leaving for lunch. The guy was outside the trailer talking to them.
After they left, we looked at the machined parts I'd brought, and talked a bit.
He'd been one of my coin dealers when I was putting on coin shows.
He said he wanted to show me something, and went to his little electric golf cart he uses to scoot around his property on.
He came back pale as a ghost.
He'd left 4 square plastic tubes of old Gold Eagles on the seat.
They were gone.
He told me he'd let me know how things turn out.

Ray
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  • Left 4 rolls of GOLD coins on a golf cart seat??????? Sheesh.......talk about careless....image
  • CladiatorCladiator Posts: 18,256 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Thats fraked.
  • blu62vetteblu62vette Posts: 11,947 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I hope he just moved them and forgot he has placed them somewhere else......
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  • I would immediately suspect the carpenter crew.
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  • pharmerpharmer Posts: 8,355


    << <i>I would immediately suspect the carpenter crew. >>



    The owner will immediately suspect any coin collectors in the vicinity, be they carpenters or not.
    Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

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  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Call the police, get the carpenter crew sequestered along with ANYONE else that had access during the time period. One will break. Cheers, RickO
  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,875 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Is this guy's name Manley by any chance?

    Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
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  • itsnotjustmeitsnotjustme Posts: 8,779 ✭✭✭
    While no one deserves to have items stolen, leaving four rolls of gold coin out while you have workers about the premises is asking for trouble.
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  • fcfc Posts: 12,793 ✭✭✭
    first his house burns down and now 4 rolls of gold eagles stolen.
    this is not his year.
    sorry to hear about this.
  • The guy is selling his machine shop at auction, by the way.
    Here's a link to it.
    Machine shop auction
    I may go and buy a few things for my machine shop.
    I've been cleaning up some of his work so his customers aren't left hanging.

    Ray
  • droopyddroopyd Posts: 5,381 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Call the police, get the carpenter crew sequestered along with ANYONE else that had access during the time period. One will break. >>



    It seems unlikely that the local law enforcement authorites will have the ability to "sequester" anyone without any evidence of their involvement in the disappearance. They may be questioned, but cannot be held without probable cause.
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  • This may be a stupid question, but did they slide down behind the seat? I've found some lost change behind the seat of my club car. I hope they didn't go to lunch with the crew.
  • relicsncoinsrelicsncoins Posts: 8,110 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I have been doing some work for the owner of a small machine shop near me.
    I delivered an order of parts to his home early this afternoon.
    He's been living in a small house trailer since his house burned, and is presently having a house built on the same site overlooking Lake Michigan.
    I drove up just as the carpenter crew was leaving for lunch. The guy was outside the trailer talking to them.
    After they left, we looked at the machined parts I'd brought, and talked a bit.
    He'd been one of my coin dealers when I was putting on coin shows.
    He said he wanted to show me something, and went to his little electric golf cart he uses to scoot around his property on.
    He came back pale as a ghost.
    He'd left 4 square plastic tubes of old Gold Eagles on the seat.
    They were gone.
    He told me he'd let me know how things turn out.

    Ray >>



    I would immediately contact all pawn, bullion brokers and coinshops within a 100 mile radius. Crooks for the most part are stupid, that's why they are crooks. The will most likely try and unload them all at the same place and probably in the plastic tubes they stole them in.

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  • pf70collectorpf70collector Posts: 6,750 ✭✭✭
    Fracked? Is that Battlestar Galactica Lingo.
    What demonination were they?$5 are less painful than $50's. Hope he finds them.
  • Crooks for the most part are stupid, that's why they are crooks. The will most likely try and unload them all at the same place and probably in the plastic tubes they stole them in.

    30K on a golf cart seat could turn some smart people crooked...
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  • I remember when I first started teaching, I was told by a wise older teacher not to leave money in the open to "tempt" students. I alway remembered it and never had anything stolen in forty years.
  • LindeDadLindeDad Posts: 18,766 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I am really sorry that your friend cought such a bad case of stupid. But If he left them laying around then he desreves to lose them.

    That is the reason banks have Safety Deposit Boxes.
  • goose3goose3 Posts: 11,471 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I am really sorry that your friend cought such a bad case of stupid. But If he left them laying around then he desreves to lose them.

    That is the reason banks have Safety Deposit Boxes. >>



    Sorry but nobody "Deserves" to be a victim of theft.
  • anoldgoatanoldgoat Posts: 1,493 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I am really sorry that your friend cought such a bad case of stupid. But If he left them laying around then he desreves to lose them.

    That is the reason banks have Safety Deposit Boxes. >>



    It may be my age, 57, but I don't agree at all. I came from a time and place where keys were left it the ignition and doors left unlocked.

    And your stuff was left alone.
    Alright! Who removed the cork from my lunch?

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  • Type2Type2 Posts: 13,985 ✭✭✭✭✭
    So do you have any rolls for sale. image No just kiding but did he think it was you.


    Hoard the keys.
  • BAJJERFANBAJJERFAN Posts: 31,370 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Global warming? Must be; how else would those coins be so HOT.
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  • nankrautnankraut Posts: 4,565 ✭✭✭


    << <i>It's Bush's fault! image >>



    NO! NO! It's Spiro Agnew's fault.image
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    You mean Spiro Agony?
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  • robkoolrobkool Posts: 5,934 ✭✭✭✭✭
    WOW !!! image


  • << <i>

    << <i>I am really sorry that your friend cought such a bad case of stupid. But If he left them laying around then he desreves to lose them.

    That is the reason banks have Safety Deposit Boxes. >>



    It may be my age, 57, but I don't agree at all. I came from a time and place where keys were left it the ignition and doors left unlocked.

    And your stuff was left alone. >>



    Still is around here. I havent taken the keys out of my truck in months... or the car for that matter... and the keys to my shop are right above the door... and everyone knows it.
  • rec78rec78 Posts: 5,872 ✭✭✭✭✭
    What would you do if you saw four tubes of gold coins sitting on an unattended golf cart with no one around?
    You cannot just leave them there because someone may come along and steal them. You cannot wait for the person to return because he may not return for hours. I think i would take them right to the police station and get a reciept saying that i turned them in and leave a note on the cart if possible .
    Maybe the person did not think to write a note and they turned them in to the police. Why would anyone take four rolls of gold coins on a golf cart to begin with?image
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  • FullStrikeFullStrike Posts: 4,353 ✭✭✭
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    Stupid is as stupid does.

    Lesson learned. image
  • No one deserves being stolen from but holy crap how stupid can you be. Someone stealing it from a secure location is one thing but this sounds like someone is trying to get an insurance check. How do you leave that much money laying on the seat of a golf cart and expect it to be there after he had strangers walking around all day. Would he have left stacks of $100 bills there? Sorry but something that dumb gets no sympathy here! If you leave $10000 cash laying on the toilet before a plumber gets there you get what you deserve. for cryig out loud people actually use guns to rob gas stations for a hundred times less than that. And they have to actually plan it out.
    If I was half as smart as I am dumb Iwould be a genious
  • BoomBoom Posts: 10,165
    Where was this cart parked? Go back there. Backtrack to the last known place they were seen.

    They could have fallen onto the back deck or onto the ground.

    He is selling off his business yet buying $30,000 in Gold?

    Who is going to be so careless with that much Gold?

    Something's not quite right here. image
  • sounds far effin fetched to me


  • << <i>Crooks for the most part are stupid, >>



    ONLY the stupid ones get caught...the smart ones, you never hear about...I wonder if it's an attempt at an"insurance claim"..
  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,875 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Crooks for the most part are stupid, that's why they are crooks. >>



    In this case, the victum is even more stupid.

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  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,775 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Crooks for the most part are stupid, >>



    ONLY the stupid ones get caught...the smart ones, you never hear about...I wonder if it's an attempt at an"insurance claim".. >>



    With a convenient "witness?"
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  • He has my symptathy. Stupidity isn't always the cause for leaving valuables around. It's very easy for me to get distracted in the middle of things. Memory loss is the cause for most careless things on my part. I've moved valuables around, got distracted, couldn't find them later after I realized what I was in the middle of, thankfully, so far they have always shown up. That is other than 2 gold coins that I've looked high and low for the last 5+yrs. Hopefully even they will show up eventually.

    NO PERSON DESERVES TO HAVE GOLD COINS STOLEN, REGARDLESS OF HOW STUPID SOME ON YOU THINK HE WAS.
  • HyperionHyperion Posts: 7,440 ✭✭✭
    he probably misplaced them, or they fell on the ground someplace....
    my bet is he finds them eventually...
  • meos1meos1 Posts: 1,135
    Ray, Any update on the missing gold?
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  • House burns down = insurance claim
    Thousands in "gold eagles" stolen = insurance claim

    Hmmmm, I wonder if anyone else saw the gold eagles?
  • LindeDadLindeDad Posts: 18,766 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Still is around here. I havent taken the keys out of my truck in months... or the car for that matter... and the keys to my shop are right above the door... and everyone knows it. >>



    Around here the truck and car would be stolen, stripped of parts, and the scrap metal would be on a slow boat to china by now. As for the shop it would be a empy wherehouse over night. We have had people try to steal the scrap alumiun at work while the night shift was still there. Had to move the bins inside the building. And as for the cars three of my fellow workers have had theres stolen out of their driveway and they all had alarms and were locked.

  • ARCOARCO Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Well, if they were stolen, they are long gone. Best to not put gold out in the open, especially outside and while construction workers are present. Are there any other fundamental common sense rules that could have been broken here?

    Hopefully he finds them. That would be a nasty loss.

    Tyler
  • image who doesnt keep their gold eagles here?
  • droopyddroopyd Posts: 5,381 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Thousands in "gold eagles" stolen = insurance claim >>



    "Mysterious disappearance" is usually not covered by insurance. When something has gone missing, but with no proof of actual theft (basically, you need a witness who actually saw someone take something, or at least evidence of a break-in), you won't collect a dime. Leaving something in the seat of a golf cart, unlocked, will have simply "gone missing" according to every insurance company. And even if you can prove theft, you'd better have a receipt proving you owned such an item.
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  • ray, just be thankful that you dont live on this side of the state, you could have found your friend slumped over the seat of his golf cart, white as a ghost because he had eight slugs in his chest (and no gold) actually, depending on how far muskegeon is from you, im sure you know of what i speak
  • I'm 15 miles from Muskegon.

    Ray
  • ebaytraderebaytrader Posts: 3,312 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I'm 15 miles from Muskegon.

    Ray >>






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  • WillieBoyd2WillieBoyd2 Posts: 5,273 ✭✭✭✭✭
    "It was the carpenters"

    Round up the usual suspects!
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  • << <i>"It was the carpenters"

    Round up the usual suspects! >>

    Still waiting for an update...but chances are good they were found safe and sound.
  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,875 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i> Still waiting for an update...but chances are good they were found safe and sound. >>



    I have my doubts that they ever existed.

    Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
    "Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
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  • << <i>

    << <i> Still waiting for an update...but chances are good they were found safe and sound. >>



    I have my doubts that they ever existed. >>

    Well, my ID says it all but I'm glad you said it first

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