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Half of Americans think that the economy is in a recession CNN Poll.

Can't be good for the coin market...

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    curlycurly Posts: 2,880


    << <i>Half of Americans think that the economy is in a recession CNN Poll.

    Can't be good for the coin market...

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    Are you getting out, brother?
    Every man is a self made man.
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    LanLordLanLord Posts: 11,754 ✭✭✭✭✭
    When I was in grade school, I was given this definition:

    A recession is when your neighbor is out of work
    A depression is when you're out of work.

    I am not aware of a very high unemployment level, so can it really be a recession?
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    RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Half of Americans think that the economy is in a recession >>



    Half of Americans are idiots. The only question is, which half?

    Russ, NCNE
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    << <i>Half of Americans think that the economy is in a recession >>



    Half of Americans are idiots. The only question is, which half?

    Russ, NCNE >>



    It has to be the other half.
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    << <i>Half of Americans think that the economy is in a recession >>



    Half of Americans are idiots. The only question is, which half?

    Russ, NCNE >>



    That's easy, the half that voted (TWICE) for the worst president in history!

    Sorry, Russ. Couldn't let that one go. image

    Don, ZQZE

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    << <i>Half of Americans think that the economy is in a recession CNN Poll.

    Can't be good for the coin market...

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    Are you getting out, brother? >>




    Absolutely not getting out, brother....looks like I'm hardcore and in it for the long haul. It's the casual guy that may be putting on the brakes.

    And yes, half of Americans probably don't even know what a recession isimage

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    CladiatorCladiator Posts: 18,345 ✭✭✭✭✭
    They probably polled the half that don't speak english, are clogging our health care system, ruining our welfare system and bringing staff infections and TB back into the country. image
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    << <i>Half of Americans think that the economy is in a recession >>



    Half of Americans are idiots. The only question is, which half?

    Russ, NCNE >>




    The half that name Afica as a country.
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    GoldbullyGoldbully Posts: 18,502 ✭✭✭✭✭
    CNN-Opinion Research Corporation

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    fcloudfcloud Posts: 12,133 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

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    << <i>Half of Americans think that the economy is in a recession >>



    Half of Americans are idiots. The only question is, which half?

    Russ, NCNE >>



    That's easy, the half that voted (TWICE) for the worst president in history!

    Sorry, Russ. Couldn't let that one go. image

    Don, ZQZE

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    CoxeCoxe Posts: 11,139
    About half of Americans voted in a way different from me in the past two presidential elections. Some ridiculous percentage of Americans believe, against all rational evidence, in UFOs, six-day universal creation, the concept of luck over statistics, that spraying a deodorizing chemical in a room freshens it up, that the banker on Deal or No Deal is really a banker, etc etc etc

    If I want to know if we are in a recession, I sure as heck am not cold-calling average, decidely uninformed Jethros for their opinions. I hate opinions polls almost as much as the credence they are afforded.
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    SwampboySwampboy Posts: 13,239 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 45,050 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    << <i>Half of Americans think that the economy is in a recession >>



    Half of Americans are idiots. The only question is, which half?

    Russ, NCNE >>



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    roadrunnerroadrunner Posts: 28,374 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The 70's "stagflationary" recession was somewhat similar. Some of the people prospered who were into hard assets and the other side did not do so good who had paper assets. Gold and coins prospered during this slow recessionary period. But in the last 2 recessions of 1990-1995 and 1980-1982, coins did not fare so well.
    At least not the ones that fared well in 1989 and 1979.

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    TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 45,050 ✭✭✭✭✭
    We have meds for whatever our politicians give us.

    For instance, when they gave us Susan B Anthony, there was Schlitz™
    and what goes good with beer ? Peanuts ! Who was president ? Carter

    Carter has pills, right ?
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    << <i>Half of Americans think that the economy is in a recession CNN Poll.

    Can't be good for the coin market...

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    Critical thinking would have prevented your conclusion that half of Americans thinking that would be bad for the coin market. What those folks think has no bearing on the coin market. After all, there is no recession, CNN just wanted to find out if their negative economic reporting was having the desired negative impact in it's viewers. That only 51% felt that way must have been a blow to CNN.

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    tradedollarnuttradedollarnut Posts: 20,610 ✭✭✭✭✭


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    << <i>Half of Americans think that the economy is in a recession >>



    Half of Americans are idiots. The only question is, which half?

    Russ, NCNE >>



    If which half isn't patently obvious to you by now, you might be in the wrong half. image
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    sri Half of Americans, by definiton are "below average"--given normal curve.

    EXP One half of Americans have an IQ less than 100.

    16 % of Americans have an IQ less than 84.

    Given pop of USA at 300,000,000 X 16% is a lot of people with an IQ less than 84.

    I ran into at least 2 today.

    Scary stuff.
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    << <i>

    << <i>Half of Americans think that the economy is in a recession >>



    Half of Americans are idiots. The only question is, which half?

    Russ, NCNE >>



    If which half isn't patently obvious to you by now, you might be in the wrong half. image >>


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    Forgive my ignorance, but how is a recession bad for the coin market? I mean rare is rare isn't it, it just take more UDS to buy them? Or is it just bad for moderns?

    And I suppose if it is bad for the mordern market, then there will be some good deals to be had if you convert from silver/gold that was bought a while back and then buy the moderns with cash?

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    tahoe98tahoe98 Posts: 11,388 ✭✭✭


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    << <i>Half of Americans think that the economy is in a recession >>



    Half of Americans are idiots. The only question is, which half?

    Russ, NCNE >>



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    "government is not reason, it is not eloquence-it is a force! like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master; never for a moment should it be left to irresponsible action." George Washington
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    tahoe98tahoe98 Posts: 11,388 ✭✭✭


    << <i>They probably polled the half that don't speak english, are clogging our health care system, ruining our welfare system and bringing staff infections and TB back into the country. image >>



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    "government is not reason, it is not eloquence-it is a force! like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master; never for a moment should it be left to irresponsible action." George Washington
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    RedneckHBRedneckHB Posts: 20,177 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Half of Americans think that the economy is in a recession CNN Poll.

    Can't be good for the coin market...

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    They always say that. In general you are going well if you can keep 50% of the populace happy.
    Excuses are tools of the ignorant

    Knowledge is the enemy of fear

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    ziggy29ziggy29 Posts: 18,669 ✭✭✭
    Somewhat paradoxically, higher bearish sentiment has more often than not been a bullish leading indicator, at least for the stock market. Sure as hell not today, though.
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    It doesn't really matter if they are right or wrong about a recession, what matters is how they react to what they believe and if they
    do thinks differently with their spending.
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    pmacpmac Posts: 3,189 ✭✭✭


    << <i>sri Half of Americans, by definiton are "below average"--given normal curve.

    EXP One half of Americans have an IQ less than 100. [/q

    Unless of course you consider Lake Wobegon, where all the kids are above average.
    Paul
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    EXP One half of Americans have an IQ less than 100. [/q


    Too bad we have one in the White House. Opps....sorry politics. image
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    shorecollshorecoll Posts: 5,447 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Remember we only had a Depression because the government didn't want to scare people by telling them we were in a Recession!
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    aficionadoaficionado Posts: 2,309 ✭✭✭

    Recession: Is a decline in any country's Gross Domestic Product (GDP), or negative real economic growth, for two or more successive quarters of a year


    Considering that the previous qtr had positive growth, by definition there is abosolutly no way we are in a recession, we might be in a quarter of negative growth, but not a recession. Only after your first quarter of negative growth could you predict if the next quarter will be negative, thus a recession.




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    GrivGriv Posts: 2,804


    << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>Half of Americans think that the economy is in a recession >>



    Half of Americans are idiots. The only question is, which half?

    Russ, NCNE >>



    That's easy, the half that voted (TWICE) for the worst president in history!

    Sorry, Russ. Couldn't let that one go. image

    Don, ZQZE

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    And now they are going to vote for his wife. image
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    << <i>And now they are going to vote for his wife. >>



    And that is putting me in a "depression"..image



    << <i>Too bad we have one in the White House. Opps....sorry politics >>




    LOL..he did make it to President of the United States...how's your career going???image
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    BearBear Posts: 18,953 ✭✭✭
    Is it possible that the National IQ levels

    are so low, is that coin collectors are breeding?

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    << <i>Is it possible that the National IQ levels

    are so low, is that coin collectors are breeding?

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    With what?

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    pharmerpharmer Posts: 8,355


    << <i>EXP One half of Americans have an IQ less than 100. [/q


    Too bad we have one in the White House. Opps....sorry politics. image >>



    No need to apologize. It wasn't politics, just more of your idiocy.
    Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

    Apropos of the coin posse/aka caca: "The longer he spoke of his honor, the tighter I held to my purse."

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    DHeathDHeath Posts: 8,472 ✭✭✭
    Just like in poker, every hand makes somebody happy. If you're a buyer, a down market is a beautiful thing. If you're liquidating in a down market, it sucks to be you.
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    rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It is amazing how many d*amned fools there are out there..... they would not know a recession, since the fools are always p*issing their money away and cannot hold a decent job to begin with... their intelligence is sub par. Cheers, RickO
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    More people than normal are in financial trouble judging by the ridiculous number of forclosure notices in my local paper. Probably more collectors than normal will be selling off their coins to pay the bills. Bigger than normal supply and a smaller than normal demand. Can't be good.
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    How about living up to your name and showing us the reverse??????
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    << <i>Bigger than normal supply and a smaller than normal demand. Can't be good. >>





    Maybe not if you're a dealer...it looks good to me as a buyer....supply and demand.....can't beat it.
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    BlackhawkBlackhawk Posts: 3,899 ✭✭✭
    That the country has had a negative savings rate for the last two years might have something to do with feelings of impending economic doom in the US. A lot of people are living on credit cards while they keep up a strong facade...this is true of the federal government also.
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    << <i>And now they are going to vote for his wife. >>



    And that is putting me in a "depression"..image



    << <i>Too bad we have one in the White House. Opps....sorry politics >>




    LOL..he did make it to President of the United States...how's your career going???image >>





    Maybe he's going for the one that Lincoln left out..... "Fooling ALL of the people All of the time"

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    << <i>That the country has had a negative savings rate for the last two years might have something to do with feelings of impending economic doom in the US. A lot of people are living on credit cards while they keep up a strong facade...this is true of the federal government also. >>




    And they want the public to save for their retirement??? To privatize Social Security????

    People will spend for their immediate needs....... What good is saving for your old age, if you don't lsurvive till then???


    Reminds me of the variation of the old Jack Benny routine of him being mugged... Mugger says: "Your money or your life"....... The answer being : "take my life, I need my money for my old age".... (Benny's answer, after an appropriate pause: "I'm thinking, I'm thinking")
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    TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 45,050 ✭✭✭✭✭
    RareBronzeCollector....

    I sold the roll of fifty that I bought in a hoard. I did not photograph many of the coins. A guy asked me how much and I said FIFTY BUCKS. He whipped out fifty and POOF, they were gone. This ugly old reverse was another one that was in there. It was missing the E in "ONE" CENT as you can see.
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    Thanks for asking and sorry I cannot oblige you. image

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    << <i>RareBronzeCollector....

    I sold the roll of fifty that I bought in a hoard. I did not photograph many of the coins. A guy asked me how much and I said FIFTY BUCKS. He whipped out fifty and POOF, they were gone. This ugly old reverse was another one that was in there. It was missing the E in "ONE" CENT as you can see.
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    Thanks for asking and sorry I cannot oblige you. image >>




    LOL...

    with a handle of "TwoSides2aCoin", you KNEW someone would eventually ask.....

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    BTW, interesting reverse with the missing E
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    MrEurekaMrEureka Posts: 24,698 ✭✭✭✭✭
    That the country has had a negative savings rate for the last two years

    I suspect that the "negative savings rate" of households is a myth built on an incomplete set of data. For an example close to home, do you think that economists count your coin collections as "savings"? Of course they don't, but they should.
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    I suspect that the "negative savings rate" of households is a myth built on an incomplete set of data. For an example close to home, do you think that economists count your coin collections as "savings"? Of course they don't, but they should. >>



    Definitely not as liquid as cash. Someone knows better than me but I would guess that 80% + of coins in collections are not worth much more than face value or intrinsic value when push comes to shove.
    John
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    keetskeets Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭✭
    i'm confused, are we in a recession or aren't we?? image i thought i knew until i read this thread and started wondering which side of the equation i was on...................
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