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Would Anybody Buy from an eBay seller with as strict terms as this?

By placing a bid you agree to the Terms of Sale!

Please read all instructions for purchasing and returns

If I don't hear from you within 48 hours of auction close, an alert may be filed and your item may no longer be available.

Please wait for a confirmation email before sending payment and/or asking for your total.

Payment must be received within 7 days of auction end.

Buyer must make contact within 2 days of auction end as to payment method.

Pictures are Stock Photos unless otherwise indicated in the description.

All sales final on currency.

Any returns MUST HAVE A CONFIRMATION NUMBER given by the correct dept. for proper handling of your auction return. Returns are made within 72 hours of receipt.

WE DO NOT USE PAYPAL

Payment Options:

Money Orders

Cashiers Checks

Personal Checks ( will hold up to 10 business days)

Credit Cards (with confirmed address). We will ship only to the confirmed address. All Checks must wait to clear before item ships. You must have a confirmed address if making payment with credit card to the confirmed address only. No international PayPal payments will be accepted. For any item that closes at $1000.00 or more, the buyer must contact us within 2 days to arrange payment. No total credit card charges over $1000 If you do not hear back from us within 48 hours of an auctions' close, you can assume that either you or us are having email problems and you will need to call us at 1-800-XXX-XXXX

PROOF AND MS 70 COINS ARE NON-REFUNDABLE

FEEDBACK WILL BE LEFT AFTER YOU LEAVE FOR ME.

Shipping Terms:

Buyer to pay $7.95 MINIMUM for shipping and handling. ( more will be charged for gold, weight &/or VALUE).

Shipping quote is for Continental USA shipping. We DO NOT ship outside the U.S. (Hawaii & Alaska OK)

We will ship UPS and to Post Office boxes.

The shipping charge is fixed and not negotiable!

Buy more items and combine shipping charges

We do not falsify shipping paperwork for any shipment.

Indiana Residents Please add 6% Sales Tax. Your item will not be shipped until all sales tax is paid. This is NOT the "Internet Tax" that we have all heard so much about. It is the normal State sales tax that we are obligated to collect for the State of Indiana for all business done within the State between residents



Seems that they only accept returns on coins PF/MS69 or lower, expect you to pay super quickly, and want to charge you an arm and a leg to ship it.
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  • My answer is a big NO.

    I would not even look at their auctions again
    Becoming informed but still trying to learn every day!
    1-Dammit Boy Oct 14,2003

    International Coins
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    Wayne
    eBay registered name:
    Hard_ Search (buyer/bidder, a small time seller)
    e-mail: wayne.whatley@gmail.com
  • CameonutCameonut Posts: 7,384 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Not a chance.

    “In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock." - Thomas Jefferson

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  • You must be joking!!!!!
    Tony Harmer
    Isle of Man
  • BAJJERFANBAJJERFAN Posts: 31,392 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It would depend on the item, but most likely no.
    theknowitalltroll;
  • InYHWHWeTrustInYHWHWeTrust Posts: 1,451 ✭✭✭
    He/she prob. has all that for the 2% deadbeats, ... doesn't apply to you. At least he/she spells it all out right up front. For the right item and if they have good feedback, I wouldn't hesitate.

    Don
    Do your best to avoid circular arguments, as it will help you reason better, because better reasoning is often a result of avoiding circular arguments.
  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,876 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Which terms do you consider to be unreasonable?

    Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
    "Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
    "Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire

  • ziggy29ziggy29 Posts: 18,668 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Which terms do you consider to be unreasonable? >>

    Stock photos combined with no returns on 70s.

    Any policy which combines stock photos and no returns is entirely unreasonable, IMO.
  • this turned me off immediately:

    Pictures are Stock Photos unless otherwise indicated in the description.
    This is a very dumb ass thread. - Laura Sperber - Tuesday January 09, 2007 11:16 AM image

    Hell, I don't need to exercise.....I get enough just pushing my luck.
  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,621 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'd like to know what Julian would say as it pertains to the COIN, not the seller or his policy.
  • Good Lesson on how NOT to Sell on EBay.
  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,621 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Good Lesson on how NOT to Sell on EBay. >>


    That's a true statement, also. The thread does illustrate some things NOT to do image when selling. But I'm still thinking it's about the coin.
    Thanks for the laugh.
  • Sounds like a guy who has been burned on Ebay, and wants to cover his behind.
  • ziggy29ziggy29 Posts: 18,668 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Sounds like a guy who has been burned on Ebay, and wants to cover his behind. >>

    Well, the good news is that he covered it. The bad news is that he probably cut his high bids in half in the process because many otherwise interested people will not bid with those terms.

    That's an awfully high price to pay to "cover your assets."


  • His terms weren't explicit enough for me. image

    eddye
    GO STEELERS
  • This guy is a schmuck
    why waste your time?
    buying from him almost guarantees a problem.
    If you wan't to see how NOT to write up a listing, here it is
  • Most of the negative statements seem to be aimed more at those deadbeat bidders than the average purchaser.

    However, the “stock photos” crap and ridicules return policy are two of my personal pet-peeves.

    If you’re selling 100 Army surplus shovels, and you use one “stock photo” to represent the lot…that’s fine (e.g. you’re getting a shovel similar to this, they’re all about the same condition)

    HOWEVER (did you notice the really big “however”?) when it comes to selling collectables, those sellers that show “stock photos” of glorious brilliant Uncirculated coins and then deliver a pile of dateless buffalo nickels and wheat pennies from the 50’s (no ’55 doubles included) are just bait and switching… IMHO.

    Also…. What’s up with the crappy return policy? With all the auctions I’ve ever done (I haven’t done them in a while but), I had one guy that didn’t like the lot and wanted his money back.

    Also… EBay’s rule that you can only dispute what you received if “the item is significantly different” is completely pathetic… who decides what “significantly” is? How about if I win an 1878 CC Morgan in PCGS MS63 condition ($1300) and he sends me an 1878 CC Morgan in a PCGS holder but it’s in MS62 condition ($275)! Is that one point “significantly” different to the invisible 18 year-old EBay guy or ‘Fair Trade’ dude looking into my complaint?


  • << <i>It would depend on the item, but most likely no. >>

    Aye.
    aka Dan
  • I wouldnt buy just for the simple fact they use stock photo's.


  • << <i>Which terms do you consider to be unreasonable? >>



    If I don't hear from you within 48 hours of auction close, an alert may be filed and your item may no longer be available.

    Please wait for a confirmation email before sending payment and/or asking for your total.

    Payment must be received within 7 days of auction end.

    WE DO NOT USE PAYPAL

    The above terms are way too unreasonable!!

    You can't expect someone to wait for an email confirmation from you (the Seller), not allow them (buyer) to use paypal and make sure payment is on the sellers door step within one week. The buyer has no autonomy over when the SELLER contacts him/her and when the USPS delivers.

    I almost always ship next day (even though I state 2x a week in my email) and I pay instantly or within 24 hours worst case scenario. I have been told that I ship and pay very quickly.

    I bring the above points up regarding my belief of acceptable shipping and contact times because I feel these terms are extremely unreasonable from a time standpoint.

    I would never commit to a purchase from this seller because there are too many expectations this seller insists that are out of our control as buyers.

    If the terms are unreasonable, walk away.
    Best Regards,

    Rob


    "Those guys weren't Fathers they were...Mothers."

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  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Absolutely not... Cheers, RickO
  • planetsteveplanetsteve Posts: 1,425 ✭✭✭✭
    A lot of it just sounds like blowhard BS and speaks more to the seller's attitude than anything else. Exactly what "alert may be filed" within 48 hrs of auction close? (That is, of course, following the sellers "confirmation email' -- don't jump the gun, now.) And which arm of this seller's vast enterprise is "the correct dept." for handling returns?

    Ultimately all that matters with all opportunities is the coin, though, and if there was a piece well beyond widget-dom that had a carefully indicated "not a stock photo" in the description, I would still buy.... Using a buying ID, of course, and with a less than easygoing attitude when it came time to give feedback.


  • << <i>

    << <i>Sounds like a guy who has been burned on Ebay, and wants to cover his behind. >>

    Well, the good news is that he covered it. The bad news is that he probably cut his high bids in half in the process because many otherwise interested people will not bid with those terms.

    That's an awfully high price to pay to "cover your assets." >>



    I agree, as tough as it is to do sometimes, I keep all of the negatives out of my listing. The troublemakers never seem to read them anyway.
  • 57loaded57loaded Posts: 4,967 ✭✭✭


    << <i>He/she prob. has all that for the 2% deadbeats, ... doesn't apply to you. At least he/she spells it all out right up front. For the right item and if they have good feedback, I wouldn't hesitate.

    Don >>



    agree with that but it does move others on to other things, if the item was a "gotta have" and feedback was fine then yeah
  • CladiatorCladiator Posts: 18,256 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>WE DO NOT USE PAYPAL >>

    This would annoy me and caufe me to only bid if it were an item I defperately wanted/needed.




    << <i>Pictures are Stock Photos... >>

    This would garauntee that I would not be bidding.

  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,876 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I wonder if anyone is going to send this seller a link to this thread. image

    Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
    "Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
    "Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire



  • << <i>I wonder if anyone is going to send this seller a link to this thread. image >>



    I would if I knew who he was, If I was doing something that significantly decreased my sales opportunities I would want some one to tell me.image
    Best Regards,

    Rob


    "Those guys weren't Fathers they were...Mothers."

    image
  • ziggy29ziggy29 Posts: 18,668 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I would if I knew who he was, If I was doing something that significantly decreased my sales opportunities I would want some one to tell me.image >>

    Yeah, but with the attitude shown in those terms, you'd probably just be blocked and ignored. image
  • notwilightnotwilight Posts: 12,864 ✭✭✭
    Guy may be ok and just protecting himself from deadbeats but comes across as treating the buyer as the enemy--appears not really interested in selling the coin. As a seller I try to put them minimum in the auction that is necessary to protect me and come across like i kindo like buyers...image


  • << <i>

    << <i>I would if I knew who he was, If I was doing something that significantly decreased my sales opportunities I would want some one to tell me.image >>

    Yeah, but with the attitude shown in those terms, you'd probably just be blocked and ignored. image >>



    I agree Ziggy
    Best Regards,

    Rob


    "Those guys weren't Fathers they were...Mothers."

    image
  • ttownttown Posts: 4,472 ✭✭✭
    I love the auctions that the seller doesn't use Ebay checkout and you have to fill out all the information on another system already in Ebay and PayPal. I have to really want something to even bid on those auctions.
  • rec78rec78 Posts: 5,872 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Pictures are Stock Photos unless otherwise indicated in the description.
    This one eliminates any chance of me bidding.
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  • This guy is probably thinking, he's losing his shirt on coin sales. Time to sell lightbulbs.
  • uh, NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
  • notwilightnotwilight Posts: 12,864 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I love the auctions that the seller doesn't use Ebay checkout and you have to fill out all the information on another system already in Ebay and PayPal. I have to really want something to even bid on those auctions. >>



    Totally agree. Unfortunately I usually don't figure this out until after I've bought the item. --jerry
  • Would this change anyone's mind?

    (3462) Feedback: 99.5% Positive

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  • << <i>Would this change anyone's mind?

    (3462) Feedback: 99.5% Positive >>



    No, as I said, it is his fine print. I will not do business with anyone who sets up a timetable that is very favorable to him and then tries to hold me accountable for things that are out of my control ie. the USPS and when he contacts me.

    There are tens of thousands of auctions on ebay I don't need this type of headache.image
    Best Regards,

    Rob


    "Those guys weren't Fathers they were...Mothers."

    image
  • au58au58 Posts: 1,288 ✭✭✭
    Is there a reason the seller can't be named?
    He's in Indiana, and one of the largest sellers of bullion related items of all time.
    Probably does more volume at most large shows than half of the tables, combined.
    Accepting Paypal would only further erode already thin margins on much of this stuff.

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