Are there any good reasons to loin the ANA???

holeinone1972 · July 12, 2007 11:31PM

Forgive me ignorance, but what do I get out of joining?

I never even considered it, and I just asked myself why not join?

Rob

ONETHREE · July 12, 2007 11:59PM

Was the "Loin" reference Freudian in nature?

ricko · July 13, 2007 12:08AM

After repeated inquiries, I have never received an answer... seems like it is just 'joining' that attracts people - then they complain about the organziation incessantly. Cheers, RickO

pxli · July 13, 2007 12:17AM

I thought we were going to talk about eating meat at an ANA fair.

Julian · July 13, 2007 12:17AM

The ANA has a fantastic library that is at members' disposal.

They have an insurance agent that supplies coverage to members.

Members may submit directly to TPG services.

They offer mediation services to members.

These are just a few that come to mind.

The association is the focus of numismatics in the US and deserves support.

Steve · July 13, 2007 12:40AM

I agree with Julian, and if the new board of governors opts to better represent the members interests, then I can see a good future ahead. I would love to see more positive comments here, but right now we are in a wait and see mode.
Steve

Prethen · July 13, 2007 1:27AM

I'm not sure if I'd WANT to loin the ANA.

PerryHall · July 13, 2007 1:27AM

<< <i>The ANA has a fantastic library that is at members' disposal.

They have an insurance agent that supplies coverage to members.

Members may submit directly to TPG services.

They offer mediation services to members.

These are just a few that come to mind.

The association is the focus of numismatics in the US and deserves support. >>

Don't forget their monthly magazine (The Numismatist) which is a fine publication.

ziggy29 · July 13, 2007 1:28AM

<< <i>Don't forget their monthly magazine (The Numismatist) which is a fine publication. >>

It was much better in its old format.

There may be more good reasons to join, pending election results in a couple weeks.

Veep · July 13, 2007 1:51AM

If you can forget about all of the political crap and think selfishly for a moment, the $35 or whatever I pay each year, is a tremendous value. The library, as Julian mentioned is outstanding, and the monthly magazine has really improved in the last year or so. I look forward to receiving each issue. My membership has helped me to learn so much that I can't put a price on its value.

PerryHall · July 13, 2007 2:00AM

As an ANA member, you can submit coins to NGC without paying to join a club. Not sure if PCGS has a similar deal for ANA members.

fc · July 13, 2007 2:04AM

to the people who mentioned the ANA library.

have you ever used it? yes or no. if yes, what for?

my answer to the question is that the ANA is dieing. do not bother join.

BlindedByEgo · July 13, 2007 2:08AM

Depends on your definition of "loin"

Seriously, though - the direct submission rights and the overall support of the hobby should be reason and value enough.

paigowjohnny · July 13, 2007 2:27AM

I personally won't join the ANA.....

I find the magazine generally uninteresting...plus I can always get a copy at our coin clubs...

As for the library...well I've been a member of the California State NA for several years and only used their library service once....

I rarely submit coins for grading, so that benefit is useless to me...

I will probably never make it to Colorado Springs to see the museum or attend any seminars...

I'll continue to support the hobby by supporting the LOCAL coin clubs...

eureka · July 13, 2007 2:50AM

Only use I've gotten out of ANA is the library as mentioned, and free admission to ANA shows hehe.
Library is very helpful for research. Last time I used it, I looked up an online coin reference database (John J Ford's maybe, I can't remember), then emailed the librarian with a list of items I wanted to either check out or have them copy specific pages for me.
*Edited to add: Oh yeah, the discount at NGC is a very nice perk.

The magazine generally isn't of much interest, other than exposing me to areas of numismatics I know little about. Not a bad thing, but usually the pages of the mag end up as extra padding for international mail envelopes.

If I had the time, I would make more use of the library and attend summer seminars.

ziggy29 · July 13, 2007 3:01AM

This thread reminded me that I finally wanted to get around to using the library and checking out a book. It's a $200 book so I didn't really want to go out and buy it.

Thanks for the reminder.

lathmach · July 13, 2007 3:53AM

Are there any good reasons to loin the ANA???

loin?

Ray

pxli · July 13, 2007 4:03AM

I want to loin and I want it medium rare.

Nysoto · July 13, 2007 4:29AM

The Numismatist is an excellent publication, worth the $36 per year, with a wide array of authors and subjects. If a collector does not enjoy reading, or does not attend ANA shows, they probably would not benefit from joining.

mercurynut · July 13, 2007 4:32AM

I don't see any meaningful reasons. Every real benifit to collectors you can get for free or low cost and avoid all the political B.S.

Veep · July 13, 2007 4:33AM

I've used the ANA Library more times than I can count. They have books on virtually any numismatic subject I can think of. They have lots of videos on grading and authentication. There are also videos of presentations made at ANA Conventions from years past. Some of those are on different types of coins, some on variety collecting, some on how to be a successful dealer, and so on.

I've also gotten nice member discounts when purchasing videos or attending grading seminars.

Again, screw the politics, think of expanding your numismatic education and I think you'll see that membership is a good value.

holeinone1972 · July 13, 2007 11:33AM

So what about submission priveledges?

Does this mean I would not have to re-new my membership with PCGS? But I would still be able to submit coins to them, and NGC and others?

Rob

PS so sorry about the loin, I was half out the door when I typed that thread.

DaveG · July 13, 2007 11:37AM

NGC is the Official Grading Service of the ANA - so submission to them only.

RWB · July 13, 2007 12:41PM

To fc:

I've used the ANA library on many occasions both to borrow books that I want to consult for research, and to obtain copies of articles from early numismatic publications. When combined with the Bass Numismatic Index the ANA library is a tremendous resource.

The museum now has an excellent, knowledgeable person (Doug Mudd) running the place and he can provide a lot to collectors and researchers – but you need to be a member to access the services.

The ANA is also trying to improve its publications and increase their value to collectors. They are also making efforts to improve and widen the educational aspects as stipulated in the national charter. Although this goes beyond members, ANA members have ready access to the various presentations made at the conventions.

Plenty has already been said about the internal “political problems” and they are certainly impediments to a smoothly functioning organization; however, that does not diminish the potential return on your $35.

If anyone reading this wants to see what the ANA magazine (The) Numismatist looks like, send me a PM and I’ll arrange for you to be sent a copy.

SamByrd · July 13, 2007 12:53PM

There is no reason whatsoever to join the ANA they do not represent average collectors and are way to political and factional in house to accomplish much. The ANA is not at all relevant any longer in my opinion.

Coxe · July 13, 2007 1:13PM

In some ways, an average collector joining the ANA is like a Midtown Manhattan resident getting a driver's license.

TwoSides2aCoin · July 13, 2007 1:20PM

<< <i>In some ways, an average collector joining the ANA is like a Midtown Manhattan resident getting a driver's license. >>

Oh , I love that .

TwoSides2aCoin · July 13, 2007 1:35PM

I have one good reason you should join :

Okay, make that HALF a reason

Dollarhunter · July 13, 2007 1:46PM

Loining is a felony in some states....

RegistryCoin · July 13, 2007 3:50PM

It would be great to "bet on the come" and hope that my dues would help the ANA benefit the numismatic community if I joined again, but no longer do I think that there is much of a chance that they would, or could provide more than they take away, which is unfortunate. Their current track record just doesn't give me a feeling that they, collectively, will be able to pull their head out. At this point, they would have to first prove themselves worthy before I throw them any more money their way.
ps. Coxe: Great analogy!

Regulated · July 13, 2007 3:55PM

I think Mr. Eureka got drunk one night and tried to loin the ANA; he wound up getting slapped. Serves him right.

TwoSides2aCoin · July 13, 2007 4:19PM

Free donuts

?

Shortgapbob · July 13, 2007 4:43PM

<< <i>To fc:

I've used the ANA library on many occasions both to borrow books that I want to consult for research, and to obtain copies of articles from early numismatic publications. When combined with the Bass Numismatic Index the ANA library is a tremendous resource.

The museum now has an excellent, knowledgeable person (Doug Mudd) running the place and he can provide a lot to collectors and researchers – but you need to be a member to access the services.

The ANA is also trying to improve its publications and increase their value to collectors. They are also making efforts to improve and widen the educational aspects as stipulated in the national charter. Although this goes beyond members, ANA members have ready access to the various presentations made at the conventions.

Plenty has already been said about the internal “political problems” and they are certainly impediments to a smoothly functioning organization; however, that does not diminish the potential return on your $35.

If anyone reading this wants to see what the ANA magazine (The) Numismatist looks like, send me a PM and I’ll arrange for you to be sent a copy. >>

I agree. Doug is an excellent curator and a true numismatist. There are certainly efforts going on to improve publications and to provide better educational services. Although much has been said about the political issues, there are people working there who want to make the ANA a better organization for collectors.

7over8 · July 13, 2007 10:29PM

free membership at the grading service of choice of the ANA (across the street) and a 10% discount to boot.

whatever that TPG charges for collector membership costs today - probably $49 or more savings - is enough for me to throw my reg membership fees at the ANA

roadrunner · July 14, 2007 3:10AM

One advantage is if you have a complaint against another ANA member, you might get a tad more leverage being an ANA member.
I know because I was dropped like a cold stone when I complained about a life member ANA dealer (Beavertown Dave).

roadrunner

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