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eyoung429eyoung429 Posts: 6,374 ✭
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be brutal and honest!!

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This is a very dumb ass thread. - Laura Sperber - Tuesday January 09, 2007 11:16 AM image

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    CalGoldCalGold Posts: 2,608 ✭✭


    << <i>be brutal and honest!! >>



    OK. That picture sucks. Adjust the color balance its too red

    Edited: After playing with the image in Photoshop I will guess MS64. No deep marks show but it seems to have lots of abrasions on semi-pl fields which may also be hazy, and could grade lower depending on how it looks in hand.

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    sweetwillietsweetwilliet Posts: 2,316 ✭✭✭
    ms62
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    ebizgobroebizgobro Posts: 597 ✭✭✭
    I am new to the board and grading but like these grading exercises.
    My guess is MS60 because of bag marks.
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    drtom77drtom77 Posts: 23
    A bad 64. The cheek looks to be an acne farm, but that probably does not matter to PCGS
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    CalGoldCalGold Posts: 2,608 ✭✭


    << <i>I am new to the board and grading but like these grading exercises.
    My guess is MS60 because of bag marks. >>



    Welcome to the boards. An MS60 Morgan is really a horror to behold. Liberty looks like Medusa after being slashed by Persius.

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    eyoung429eyoung429 Posts: 6,374 ✭


    << <i>

    << <i>I am new to the board and grading but like these grading exercises.
    My guess is MS60 because of bag marks. >>



    Welcome to the boards. An MS60 Morgan is really a horror to behold. Liberty looks like Medusa after being slashed by Persius.

    CG >>




    Awww...60's aren't that bad......

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    This is a very dumb ass thread. - Laura Sperber - Tuesday January 09, 2007 11:16 AM image

    Hell, I don't need to exercise.....I get enough just pushing my luck.
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    drtom77drtom77 Posts: 23
    I like these as long as it does not become a marathon...I ask you to set a time for the great unveiling.
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    fcloudfcloud Posts: 12,133 ✭✭✭✭
    61

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    drtom77drtom77 Posts: 23
    Hey fcloud, nothing to do with coins, but I love the car! What year is it?
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    AnkurJAnkurJ Posts: 11,375 ✭✭✭✭
    63
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    fcloudfcloud Posts: 12,133 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Hey fcloud, nothing to do with coins, but I love the car! What year is it? >>



    1969 Chevelle Malibu

    Thanks!

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    eyoung429eyoung429 Posts: 6,374 ✭
    Will post the grade at 9pm Mst
    This is a very dumb ass thread. - Laura Sperber - Tuesday January 09, 2007 11:16 AM image

    Hell, I don't need to exercise.....I get enough just pushing my luck.
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    SUMORADASUMORADA Posts: 4,797 ✭
    64
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    claychaserclaychaser Posts: 4,406 ✭✭✭✭
    After seeing the coin in hand, my first call was 62, with the bag marks in the field limiting the grade . . . . . . .


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    drtom77drtom77 Posts: 23
    I really love the car, but I am so anal about coins, my classics all seem to be in plastic holders. They are not nearly as fast, as the Malibu, but sweet in their own way. Obsession is a terrible syndrome.
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    FLBuffaloHunterFLBuffaloHunter Posts: 3,127
    MS64
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    drtom77drtom77 Posts: 23


    << <i>Will post the grade at 9pm Mst >>



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    TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 45,295 ✭✭✭✭✭
    CalGold..
    that was funny... Brutally honest, but definitely funny to read : "That picture sucks"

    eyoung429,
    MS63, and a nice strike with tons of detail, but just a few too many marks on the cheek to go higher. The slightest friction or cabinet rub on the breast feathers (reverse) probably hurt it, too. The reverse fields look very good and the obverse fields a bit "cloudy".
    There's my honest opinion,

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    CocoinutCocoinut Posts: 2,592 ✭✭✭✭✭
    MS61

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    SamByrdSamByrd Posts: 3,131 ✭✭✭✭
    its a low end ms63. Picture d- though......
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    claychaserclaychaser Posts: 4,406 ✭✭✭✭
    I think Earl will award the prize winner a really nice 90-O Comet!image


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    ShortgapbobShortgapbob Posts: 2,332 ✭✭✭
    To me, that coin looks like a prime example of the rare MS-60 grade.
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    ModernCrapNutModernCrapNut Posts: 2,086 ✭
    MS 61

    Photography 101 D


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    FatManFatMan Posts: 8,977 ✭


    << <i> be brutal and honest!! >>

    First, the pictures are horrible.

    Second, it looks like you hooked a MS61.

    Third, I'd throw it back.




    Now, for the gentle version: Nice morgan but it has too many hits on the cheek and too many abrasions to grade much higher than MS62.image
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    drtom77drtom77 Posts: 23
    I can't decide if the rose toning is natural. Even though I already guessed a gift 64, I am amending my grade to MS64RB
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    eyoung429eyoung429 Posts: 6,374 ✭
    Ok, sorry about the pics....my camera is heading into the trash....I had some moisture in it and cleaned it but now it is non-repairable.

    This is one of the graded ones that I am a little ticked about...I really don't think it merits this:


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    This is a very dumb ass thread. - Laura Sperber - Tuesday January 09, 2007 11:16 AM image

    Hell, I don't need to exercise.....I get enough just pushing my luck.
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    drtom77drtom77 Posts: 23
    to eyoung429


    This is a very dumb ass thread. - Laura Sperber - Tuesday January 09, 2007 11:16 AM

    I love the Laura quote
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    mcheathmcheath Posts: 2,441 ✭✭✭
    I would have said 61. It doesn't appear to have wear as you ms60 84-cc does. I Like the the 84-cc, a nice 58 IMO, but a good look for a coin to have.
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    FatManFatMan Posts: 8,977 ✭
    I don't see any wear, but I do see very abraded fields. I'm guessing PCGS net graded the coin due to the abrasions.
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    centmastercentmaster Posts: 504 ✭
    That seems like one of the only grades it CAN'T be. Either 60-61 or AU50-53 in my book. AU58 implies a PQ coin.
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    mcheathmcheath Posts: 2,441 ✭✭✭
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    drtom77drtom77 Posts: 23
    I'm thinking the time has come. What's the grade?
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    eyoung429eyoung429 Posts: 6,374 ✭
    Please see 6 posts up image
    This is a very dumb ass thread. - Laura Sperber - Tuesday January 09, 2007 11:16 AM image

    Hell, I don't need to exercise.....I get enough just pushing my luck.
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    drtom77drtom77 Posts: 23
    Well, duh. Sorry. Although it is impossible to see slight color differences that can show the possible rub, looks to me like somebody had a bad day at PCGS. Considering everything looks like a bid to get more grading fees. With Morgans, it is my humble opinion that they could call lots of coins with a weaer strike AU 58. Like travelling in the NBA, they just rerely make the call.
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    eyoung429eyoung429 Posts: 6,374 ✭
    Ok....after 2hrs of dis-assembly and fixing my camera....here are some definately better pics.

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    This is a very dumb ass thread. - Laura Sperber - Tuesday January 09, 2007 11:16 AM image

    Hell, I don't need to exercise.....I get enough just pushing my luck.
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    guitarwesguitarwes Posts: 9,308 ✭✭✭
    those last pics are great.


    the AU might be for the rub on the top of the cap and the lower hair curls?

    nice $ though!


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    DJCoinzDJCoinz Posts: 3,856 ✭
    obv looks BU rev looks AU. Go figure. image
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    CalGoldCalGold Posts: 2,608 ✭✭
    It can be toughh to distinguish between scuffs and scratches caused by contact with other coins in mint bags and scuffing and abraisions caused by a brief period of handling in commerce. Its the old super slider issue. You will need to tilt and rotate the coin in the light to see if the luster in the fields is interrupted in places-- a static head on photo of the coin won't do it. The closest the photos come to showing field rub so far as I can tell is the last shot above the eagle's head. It may also be that what appears to be haziness in the fields is really interuption of luster caused by handling.

    CG
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    eyoung429eyoung429 Posts: 6,374 ✭
    Will take some more later....this one is going to be either free'd or reviewed. I could see warranting a 63, but a 58??????
    This is a very dumb ass thread. - Laura Sperber - Tuesday January 09, 2007 11:16 AM image

    Hell, I don't need to exercise.....I get enough just pushing my luck.
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    LongacreLongacre Posts: 16,717 ✭✭✭
    Much better pics!
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    eyoung429eyoung429 Posts: 6,374 ✭
    Thanks, but I am still not seeing where this coin would grade below a 63...

    BTW....anyone taking a guess at the VAM for this one image
    This is a very dumb ass thread. - Laura Sperber - Tuesday January 09, 2007 11:16 AM image

    Hell, I don't need to exercise.....I get enough just pushing my luck.

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