Thanks alot...I was just getting ready to go to sleep and now you have left me with an image that is sure to give me very strange dreams (tin soldiers and Nixon's coming...)
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<< <i>I especially like Washington's 'possessed' eyes! >>
Kinda like Jefferson on this Liberian issue.
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No that is downright frightful. But I can tell you from experience that a frontal portrait of Jefferson is quite difficult to pull of. When I was working on the reliefs for the first four president concept dollars, Jefferson was the one I struggled with the most - by far. I'm still not happy with how it turned out, but here is how I left it:
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Not bad David....Jefferson looks like Paul Revere or one of his Raiders.
Way better than the earlier version depicted!!!! >>
Tell us what you really think...quit sugar coating it.
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<< <i>Got my two Mint wrapped rolls today and what a disappointment. I'm seriously considering returning them. Not because their banged-up (which they are) but rather because of their farcical nature. Was this the best the Mint could come up with for circulating coinage? The design is a disgrace, a 4 year old kid could have drawn a better portrait of Washington! >>
Great analysis, I agree with you 100%. I got 2 rolls at face value on the first day of issue, and I couldn't believe how junky they looked.
Funny thing is, they spend just as well as a dollar bill.
Be sure to let us know what you think of the next coin, the John Adams is it? Man, from the pictures I've seen of that one, the guy looks like some pervo-ghoul from hades.
The James Madison Coin is also going to be a real dog of a coin. What is the Mint trying to do anyway? Deflect all the insults from the Shriver Commemorative? These Presidential Dollars have got to be the most hideous coinage ever to come out of the US Mint.
But what the heck, it really is fun to spend them. They're saving me money also. How? They're so ugly I have no desire to collect them.
I normally tip waitresses with a few after the meal and hear nothing but ooohs and aaahs, is this the new dollar I heard about? I have also purchased items with them. No problems! They spend as well as paper dollars in my area. They're OK I guess.
design is a disgrace, a 4 year old kid could have drawn a better portrait of Washington!
I tend to agree. I think they could have done a lot better. Even with the reverse. For starters, get rid of the huge $1. Makes it look like play money to me.
Those are the worst and wierdest eyes on any thing i can remember. Knowing you guys, one of will post something worse. :-) Even my 5 year old thought the man looked funny.
I agree with the masses . . . The whole Presidential coin series does not excite me. Even with the quarter series, most of the designs are not all that - some are downright embarrassing......... But it is a 'thing' that they have come up with to make money. Some ppl will do it, and some won't. That said, when it's all said and done - some ppl will have a set of quarters with all the states of the US, and all the dead US Presidents. Whoop-ti-do.
I gave my lawn guy 18 of them along with a roll of quarters - for his time. I told them they were uncirculated and he clinked them around in his pocket and said 'cool'. He was headed to buy himself some cigarettes down the road.
The big 'to-do' will not last long, and then they will become blase` (sp) like the state quarter program, and the Sacs.
Have yet to get one--but I haven't tried. Not too interested--smoothie or not. IMO our coinage has gone down the toilet over the last few years--but then I'm a hopeless classic collector. This is not a modern bashing post. There are some nice moderns--just not any of the dollars so far. I have high hopes for the Jefferson, also I just got a Montana quarter in change--very nice design (not sure how that one got past the mint).
<< <i>From the days of the Ike dollar to the current year no bank teller has ever given dollar coins in my change. Wonder why???? >>
I often get them in change when I ask. Gotta couple of Ikes a while back. They actually like people to ask for them because the stores want to get rid of them.
The $ coin will never have a chance as long as the dollar bill is still produced. Just get rid of the dollar bill and these coins will circulate just fine. Sure there would be an adjustment period with retooling of vending machines, register drawers, and people's attitudes. I only carry 1 to 4 single dollar bills in my wallet at any one time with the rest being larger bills. I could just as easily carry 1 to 4 of these coins in my pocket (or change purse if you have those). Merchants would just put these coins in the dollar bill section of the drawers until they need to replace their existing registers with updated ones. Seems pretty simple. They're not much bigger than the quarter and we all manage with them. The only other thing they should do if they are serious about getting these to circulate and getting rid of the cost of maintaining a paper $ is to make the dollar coin one design and stick with it. This presidential series was a mistake in that regard. The Washington Dollar is actually a great replacement for the Washington dollar bill (so was the SAC). Adding other presidents makes it too oriented to collectors and too confusing for people who need something more "steady and rock solid" during the transition from paper to coin. Just like the U.S dollar bill is instantly recognizable all over the world, so should be a single U.S. dollar coin. Of course, all this begs the question: are they really serious about getting these coins to circulate? I personally don't think "they" are or they would have implemented some or all of the above. What a wasted opportunity to make this work. As it stands now, it will be just like the SBA's and SACS.
I happen to think the reverse of the Washington dollar is very nice. What a grand pose of Lady Liberty. She looks just like she does when you look up at her from below. She is also a universal symbol of freedom throughout the world; and she is ours. The $1 on the reverse looks fine to me also. I think the mint felt that people needed to be able to quickly recognize this as a dollar. If it was written out as "One Dollar" the instant recognition the $1 gives would be lost as the written version would be crowded in and hard to pick up right away. It's funny, things like the $1 sign on the reverse make me think they want this to circulate but maybe it's just so they can say they tried their best but the political forces that won't let go of the paper dollar are in their way of success. Who knows?
I am sorry but it looks like crap, imho. The problem is a mint that prides itself on being run like a big business, and a congress that sticks there nose were it doesn't belong. If I were able to do anything it would be to scrape all the coinage laws we have now and change them to..
1) The U.S. shall issue coinage as needed by the country 2) A representation of Liberty shall be on the obv of all coins 3) minor coinage penny-dime should have on the reverse an animal native to the US 4) the reverse of the Quarter, Half and Dollar should have a eagle. 5) the design of US coinage should be changed no less then ever 25 year and no more then ever 35 6) the design of US coinage should at the discretion of the head engraver
No, more silly coin laws like the act for the Dollar.. I read it and thought to myself this is too much.
btw... The 1$ on the reverse is required by law.
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I sort of think the Mint has made these Coins as ugly as they are to act as a repellent to collectors. I think they have succeeded very well, in that regard.
An ugly coin strategy reminds me of the dateless coinage proposed in 1965 ( or thereabouts ) - it just kills collector hoarding and encourages circulation. Now if only they could drop the paper $1 - don't count out that possibility just yet. The Treasury goons might not be as stupid as we might want them to be.
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<< <i>I'll ask for them in change and spend them up until either Clinton is on one. >>
I would think you'd be happy to spend a Clinton dollar, because that would mean that he'll be dead by 2014.
<< <i>The Nixon dollar will be trippy. >>
Thanks alot...I was just getting ready to go to sleep and now you have left me with an image that is sure to give me very strange dreams
Let me make one thing perfectly clear ... Good Night
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<< <i>I especially like Washington's 'possessed' eyes!
Kinda like Jefferson on this Liberian issue.
No that is downright frightful. But I can tell you from experience that a frontal portrait of Jefferson is quite difficult to pull of. When I was working on the reliefs for the first four president concept dollars, Jefferson was the one I struggled with the most - by far. I'm still not happy with how it turned out, but here is how I left it:
Not bad David....Jefferson looks like Paul Revere or one of his Raiders.
Way better than the earlier version depicted!!!! >>
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<< <i>Got my two Mint wrapped rolls today and what a disappointment. I'm seriously considering returning them. Not because their banged-up (which they are) but rather because of their farcical nature. Was this the best the Mint could come up with for circulating coinage? The design is a disgrace, a 4 year old kid could have drawn a better portrait of Washington! >>
Great analysis, I agree with you 100%. I got 2 rolls at face value on the first day of issue, and I couldn't believe how junky they looked.
Funny thing is, they spend just as well as a dollar bill.
Be sure to let us know what you think of the next coin, the John Adams is it? Man, from the pictures I've seen of that one, the guy looks like some pervo-ghoul from hades.
The James Madison Coin is also going to be a real dog of a coin. What is the Mint trying to do anyway? Deflect all the insults from the Shriver Commemorative? These Presidential Dollars have got to be the most hideous coinage ever to come out of the US Mint.
But what the heck, it really is fun to spend them. They're saving me money also. How? They're so ugly I have no desire to collect them.
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<< <i>The design is a disgrace, a 4 year old kid could have drawn a better portrait of Washington! >>
You didn't see the design before ordering?
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My thoughts exactly!
I tend to agree. I think they could have done a lot better. Even with the reverse. For starters, get rid of the huge $1. Makes it look like play money to me.
Dennis
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<< <i>Someone said "oh..they only left quarters". >>
I want to know what part of he country has circulating gold colored quarters?
Even my 5 year old thought the man looked funny.
I gave my lawn guy 18 of them along with a roll of quarters - for his time. I told them they were uncirculated and he clinked them around in his pocket and said 'cool'. He was headed to buy himself some cigarettes down the road.
The big 'to-do' will not last long, and then they will become blase` (sp) like the state quarter program, and the Sacs.
no bank teller has ever given dollar coins in my change.
Wonder why????
<< <i>From the days of the Ike dollar to the current year
no bank teller has ever given dollar coins in my change.
Wonder why???? >>
Have you ever asked?
<< <i>From the days of the Ike dollar to the current year
no bank teller has ever given dollar coins in my change.
Wonder why???? >>
I often get them in change when I ask. Gotta couple of Ikes a while back. They actually like people to ask for them because the stores want to get rid of them.
I happen to think the reverse of the Washington dollar is very nice. What a grand pose of Lady Liberty. She looks just like she does when you look up at her from below. She is also a universal symbol of freedom throughout the world; and she is ours. The $1 on the reverse looks fine to me also. I think the mint felt that people needed to be able to quickly recognize this as a dollar. If it was written out as "One Dollar" the instant recognition the $1 gives would be lost as the written version would be crowded in and hard to pick up right away. It's funny, things like the $1 sign on the reverse make me think they want this to circulate but maybe it's just so they can say they tried their best but the political forces that won't let go of the paper dollar are in their way of success. Who knows?
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1) The U.S. shall issue coinage as needed by the country
2) A representation of Liberty shall be on the obv of all coins
3) minor coinage penny-dime should have on the reverse an animal native to the US
4) the reverse of the Quarter, Half and Dollar should have a eagle.
5) the design of US coinage should be changed no less then ever 25 year and no more then ever 35
6) the design of US coinage should at the discretion of the head engraver
No, more silly coin laws like the act for the Dollar.. I read it and thought to myself this is too much.
btw... The 1$ on the reverse is required by law.
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"I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them." – Thomas Jefferson
An ugly coin strategy reminds me of the dateless coinage proposed in 1965 ( or thereabouts ) - it just kills collector hoarding and encourages circulation. Now if only they could drop the paper $1 - don't count out that possibility just yet. The Treasury goons might not be as stupid as we might want them to be.
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