<< <i>Don't coins have to circulate to become EF? >>
Yeah, that's what I'm wondering...whether there ever will be an honest wear Sac dollar. How long do they circulate before they are tossed into bank vaults or someone's collection - three days?
I got the winner right here. My favorite series looks great in true XF when the coin was made well to start with, but there's nothing uglier than a poorly made clad quarter in XF, especially with just a hint of luster remaining.
To my eye the clads start looking good again when they get down to VG or so. And even poorly made ones look OK in unc, but not XF's.
Sadly the EF grade is looking worse these days for everything because the services seem bent on losening the standards, espeically for key day coins. When it comes to those who grade raw coins the situation gets worse!
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I can't comment re moderns as I don't collect them, but IMO, most Shield and Liberty Nickels look ugly in ANY grade. If you find one that's attractive, BUY IT! It can be years before you find another one that keeps your attention for more than two seconds.
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I imagine the obverse actually looks a little better. Perhaps not since Sacajawea might look a little ghoulish with the high points of the face worn down. Do the eyes look large?
<< <i>I got the winner right here. My favorite series looks great in true XF when the coin was made well to start with, but there's nothing uglier than a poorly made clad quarter in XF, especially with just a hint of luster remaining.
To my eye the clads start looking good again when they get down to VG or so. And even poorly made ones look OK in unc, but not XF's. >>
Couldn't agree more. A clad in XF is a real dog.
Ike in any grade is ugly. He may have been a great war hero but he was also one ugly dude.
I'd have to say the silver classic commems. Most of them just aren't very attractive once they've circulated a bit, and certain ones like the 1926 Sesqui., were struck so poorly out of the starting gate that it's hard to find a real clean and sharp one even in high MS grades, let alone in XF.
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Memorial cents, they look pitiful to begin with and a few trips around the block make them look like chuckie cheese tokens passed through the system of a curtain climber.
All the above mentioned and imho Morgan $'s in EF-VF look terrible. However, original Fine and below Morgans look great with crusty black/brown fields!! A dull Morgan w/o luster just looks blah!
modern crap not made of silver... quarters, halves, dimes, nickels, etc. They just don't get the nice toning that real silver coins do. Also peace dollars and liberty/buffalo/shield nickels.
Shield nickels. I actually prefer the look of a G to the look of an EF because a smooth shield device is more attractive than one with partial lines. Attractive AUs are a great grade to collect.
Barber coinage below XF look terrible, like a blank profile.
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<< <i>I'd have to say the silver classic commems. Most of them just aren't very attractive once they've circulated a bit, and certain ones like the 1926 Sesqui., were struck so poorly out of the starting gate that it's hard to find a real clean and sharp one even in high MS grades, let alone in XF. >>
Sacrilege! PM me if you see any original, two-toned, problem F-XF circ. commems and I will be happy to relieve you of your agony
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<< <i>I'd have to say the silver classic commems. Most of them just aren't very attractive once they've circulated a bit, and certain ones like the 1926 Sesqui., were struck so poorly out of the starting gate that it's hard to find a real clean and sharp one even in high MS grades, let alone in XF. >>
Sacrilege! PM me if you see any original, two-toned, problem F-XF circ. commems and I will be happy to relieve you of your agony
Don >>
I have to agree with Don here. Frankly, I think some of them look better in XF than they do in UNC, I fell like I can see more of the design detail with the fields set off in contrast. For the money I'd much rather own commems like these than a blast white MS65:
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<< <i>Don't coins have to circulate to become EF? >>
Yeah, that's what I'm wondering...whether there ever will be an honest wear Sac dollar. How long do they circulate before they are tossed into bank vaults or someone's collection - three days?
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<< <i> Yeah, that's what I'm wondering...whether there ever will be an honest wear Sac dollar. >>
There will be at least one...my pocket piece. It's at EF after one year.
coin was made well to start with, but there's nothing uglier than a poorly made
clad quarter in XF, especially with just a hint of luster remaining.
To my eye the clads start looking good again when they get down to VG or so.
And even poorly made ones look OK in unc, but not XF's.
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<< <i> Yeah, that's what I'm wondering...whether there ever will be an honest wear Sac dollar. >>
There will be at least one...my pocket piece. It's at EF after one year. >>
TTT for an update...the aforementioned Sac is now at best F, probably a VG.
<< <i>I got the winner right here. My favorite series looks great in true XF when the
coin was made well to start with, but there's nothing uglier than a poorly made
clad quarter in XF, especially with just a hint of luster remaining.
To my eye the clads start looking good again when they get down to VG or so.
And even poorly made ones look OK in unc, but not XF's. >>
Couldn't agree more. A clad in XF is a real dog.
Ike in any grade is ugly. He may have been a great war hero but he was also one ugly dude.
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<< <i>I'd have to say the silver classic commems. Most of them just aren't very attractive once they've circulated a bit, and certain ones like the 1926 Sesqui., were struck so poorly out of the starting gate that it's hard to find a real clean and sharp one even in high MS grades, let alone in XF. >>
Sacrilege! PM me if you see any original, two-toned, problem F-XF circ. commems and I will be happy to relieve you of your agony
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<< <i>I'd have to say the silver classic commems. Most of them just aren't very attractive once they've circulated a bit, and certain ones like the 1926 Sesqui., were struck so poorly out of the starting gate that it's hard to find a real clean and sharp one even in high MS grades, let alone in XF. >>
Sacrilege! PM me if you see any original, two-toned, problem F-XF circ. commems and I will be happy to relieve you of your agony
Don >>
I have to agree with Don here. Frankly, I think some of them look better in XF than they do in UNC, I fell like I can see more of the design detail with the fields set off in contrast. For the money I'd much rather own commems like these than a blast white MS65:
Sean Reynolds
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