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    << <i>Tribute Proof

    As in:

    1884 S Morgan Dollar Tribute Proof

    "Amazingly only 880 proofs from 1884 are known to exist today. Making each
    extremely valuable!"

    Only $9.95. >>



    Man, that's a steal. You should feel lucky you found that eBay auction before anyone else did! >>



    How did you know it was an ebay auction? Did you buy one toooooo ???

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    Forget the plats...buy 1884-S proofs!!!

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    CoxeCoxe Posts: 11,139


    << <i>coin when applied to bullion rounds--whether legal tender or not, whether spendable or not--if not produced for the purpose of everyday commerce they are not coins. Yes, including proofs; including commemeratives, including restrikes to order...if the object was minted solely for the purpose of creating a collectable IT IS NOT A COIN!image >>



    image ... even if it does become a semantics pissing contest.
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    SandhawkSandhawk Posts: 1,154 ✭✭✭




    TEXTILE TONING - when it is really just some crappy toning with fingerprints !!!! (not the real dots from the bag)








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    410a410a Posts: 1,325
    Dealer retorts "I'll buy em from you for that price!"

    Yeah, OK
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    dorancoinsdorancoins Posts: 2,095 ✭✭✭
    gem unc
    crisp unc (how the heck do one know if a note is "crisp" when it hasn't been BAKED! image
    borderline unc
    professional numismatist
    "its in a (place low to poor quality grading service name here) holder so its real"
    professionally graded
    mint condition
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    robecrobec Posts: 7,044 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Two that really get to me are ebay's "W@W!!" and dealers saying "it's MS 65, looks MS 66".
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    Cam40Cam40 Posts: 8,146
    how about ` california proof`
    remember that one?

    basicly a faked pl or dmpl morgan dollar
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    LQQK "PCGS values this coin at." Estate sale. "i'm not a coin dealer." Even though you have 600 auctions for coins running...that really gets me. Oh yea PQ. Generally what I see with PQ coins is poor quality.
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    MyqqyMyqqy Posts: 9,777
    When dealers try to embellish the description of every coin in their inventory

    That drives me crazy too- there are ways to accurately describe nice quality coins without sounding like idiot salesman....
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    gyocomgdgyocomgd Posts: 2,582 ✭✭✭
    I hate seeing a Buffalo nickel described as "Horny."
    I also hate the expression, "Grading is subjective."
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    TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 45,120 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I usually find humor when dealing with such. People's terms and uses of them is funny in every walk.
    I'll still remember years ago coming out of the machine/mechanic trade and going into a different type of maintenance. It had nothing to do with Diesel Technology but I had common sense (so I thought)
    My interviewer asked me what I knew about HVAC and I said:
    "I don't know anything about High Voltage Alternating Current except that electricity can shock you". He and the building engineer started laughing. image I just sat there looking stupid.
    Then, the head building engineer says... HVAC is Heating Ventilation and Air Conditioning.

    Then the General Manager said, "that's the best laugh I've had in a long time, you will be just fine in this position, you're hired". So don't be angry cuz people are not educated. Enjoy their stupidity as long as it lasts image
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    BillJonesBillJones Posts: 35,888 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Improper use of the MS scale.

    For example there are still a few ignoramuses who in their print copy use terms like MS-40, MS-30, MS-50, instead of EF-40, VF-30 and AU-50.

    Another aggravating abuse is copy that reads like this:

    “This coin sells for $10,000 in a PCGS holder.” When what they are offering is a so-called MS-66 coin in a Tickle Me Elmo holder.
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    probably said but the one that is like finger nails on a chalk board to me is " I just made a BLANK" referring to getting a peticular grade on a coin. Also "Fresh".
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    NysotoNysoto Posts: 3,832 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Hard surfaces

    This one makes no sense at all. Did they use a hardness gauge to test for Rockwell or Brinell hardness? Why would the hardness be any different from other coins in the series? Was the coin struck from an unannealed planchet?
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    coppercoinscoppercoins Posts: 6,084 ✭✭✭
    I would have to say "error". Far too many people use this term for anything odd or different on a coin, and over half the time they are talking about a variety or die variety. These are completely different and should be treated as such. Even specialists and collectors of one often do not collect or know about the other.
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    koynekwestkoynekwest Posts: 10,048 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Especially applicable to ebay:

    "Key date"
    "Must see!!!!!"
    "Rare"
    "Estate"
    "Wow!"

    and excessive hype in general.
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    koynekwestkoynekwest Posts: 10,048 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Let me add one more-"Double" die.
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    CoxeCoxe Posts: 11,139
    Also, "I made a 5" is irritting. You didn't make anything and say 65 as we are not impressed by your abbreviated grade call. I get the impression most of those folks are newbies who learned this and want to differentiate themselves from even newer newbies like they graduated and are not greenhorns any longer. It's like implying they bulk submit bags of rare uncirculated coins regularly and, out of necessary brevity, call out, "4, 4, 7, 5, 6, 5, ...."
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